Originally posted by spyder550
Really - the communists - does anybody really think that the communists are a threat. Just who are the communists and what would they do to establish
themselves. There was a time when there rally were "card carrying communists" in the US. Actually McCarthy had everyone believing everyone else
was a communist. Been there lived through the cold war -- lived through the wars started to keep the dominoes from falling -- haven't met communist
in years. Yes you actually used to run across communists, in day to day life.
I am really suspicious when I run across the people who really hate communists - you know the ones who call liberals -
communistsocialistfascistatheists all at once. My bet is they have no idea what they are talking about. I think it is a knee JERK reaction.
Steve Quayle is off his meds.
edit on 21-10-2011 by spyder550 because: (no reason given)
The interesting thing about "McCarthyism" and the Red Scare, is that Hollywood types from that era, for example, pretty much acknowledges that they
had, in fact, worked to subvert the American social-political system out of a communist ideology.
So when I read someone pointing to McCarthyism as stereotyping and branding a group as communist, I take note, and suspect that it is, in fact
communist.
Communism, in American terms, is liberal.
Communism is atheist.
Communism, in most forms, is socialist.
Communism has a bad track record of being fascist.
So, lumping those together has a logic to it.
And, I know what I am talking about-- despite your desire to mislead others to have a "knee jerk" reaction to those scenting-out or exposing
communist leadership.
I have friends who are communist. Politics doesn't make a person good or bad. And if I can point to a friend who is politically communist,
economically socialist, socially fascist, and theologically atheist; why would you consider that a knee-jerk reaction? They do tend to go
together.
Apparently you either do not know communists (as you claim), or you are one, and want to cloud the ideology to avoid being branded for what you
are.
And that is what is bothersome about communists-- organized as they are, they do not act under the name.
Instead, and for example the current activity is called "Oppose Wall Street." The planners are not declaring themselves, and the vast majority of
the persons taking part do not know who the planners are-- they think it is a grass roots, spontaneous gathering-- because they are sheep. But
communist organizations, socialist organizations, and those sympathetic to them are almost certainly the force behind it.
If someone told me there would be political demonstrations in Europe claiming to be inspired by the OWS, I would have said, "Yes, probably in Greece,
Italy and Britain-- since all of those were communist footholds before WWII, and have remained quietly at work ever since." Surprise!
But those of us who are politically savvy, who have been around, either among the communist or among the opponents, know; we know the methods, and
the results.
Before the cameras, "Well, Yes. There are communists here, but there are people from all ideologies here on Wall Street. That is the great thing!"
Typical communist method, not declaring the ideology in hopes of gaining favor for the ideas.
A college student may not have the experience to know what is really going on and what organizations are behind it-- but those of us who have been
around know. Persons in their twenties are in the midst of idealism-- out to save the world. The have little political affiliation-- just ideals
that have not yet been tested by them in life. They think the ideas are new and do not yet know they have been tried and always failed.
But as you pointed out, neither the ideas nor the methods are new-- we saw them in the 1950s and we also saw the same, "Who me?!" denials, only to
be laughingly admitted by the aging actors who had been a part of it, decades later, "Ow, well, yeah, we did do that."
Nope, they do not carry cards stating "communist" but they say what they say-- and some of us know what they are talking about-- even if you do not.