Those who oppose Christ and His messengers will disregard ~ Leave New York City + San Francisco

reply to post by Fromabove


Thank you Fromabove.

This Scripture verse confirms the Leary message. Change now to those who believe
fornication and the homosexual "act" are not sins.


From Romans 1:24-32 (NIV) Bible

" Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator"....

reply to post by MrXYZ


Mr XYZ,

Don't make science or your intellect your faith. Both have been proven wrong. God,
the Blessed Trinity is our source.

How about some of the most famous scientists who had a strong faith in God? Look at the "good" they brought to the world. One of them is Louise Pasteur.

reply to post by anoncoholic


Bravo anoncoholic.

"The issue isn't one of over population but resource handling. The entire population of the world could fit in the state of Texas. Where does that leave your ego?"

It gets me, not to follow God. Think of those who never knew life who could of solved
"resourcing."

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I hope you see the difference between some random guy posting a youtube video, and a certified astro-physicist presenting findings that are fully backed up by objective evidence. If you don't...well, that explains a lot

This is not true Mr. XYZ,

Secularists, disbelievers ignore the testing of science in investigating the miraculous.

God grants miracles to bring people to belief in Him. I never hear a rebuttal to science
saying "this is not from earth"...we've examined "it" or examined the person.

3 examples.

1. The impression on the Shroud of Turin

2. The many not just one unexplained on the Tilma of Guadalupe

3. The physical wounds of Christ Padre Pio bore for fifty years

I learned something a month ago I didn't Know...

First, I do know evolution is a theory, here is the new for me. The Church supports
micro-evolution not macro-evolution.

_____________

There are two principle views in debate on Evolution are Micro, the Catholic version, and Macral, the Darwinist position.

Is the Genesis account of creation literal? Were the days truly 24 hour periods, or can they represent a period? St. Peter writes, "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". God is not bound by time.

He is Lord of it! The point is, Micro Evolution can fit here and the Biblical account is not compromised. The significance of Adam is not lost. Why are Americans generally larger today than the average Chinese. It is because of diet, this is Micro Evolution.

The cross breeding of animals within their respective family or world is again Micro Evolution. Through cross breading, we have seen evolved faster horses, larger horses, shorter horses, even dancing horses. The same can be said for dogs, cats, cattle, sheep, and anything you can imagine. This is micro Evolution!


This differs greatly from Macro Evolution which is the teaching that life evolves from one life form to another such as; man grew from apes, and ultimately evolved from some lower life formed from the oceans.

To say that creation is an accident is like comparing someones tennis shoes believing they in time evolved to fit my feet. Macro evolution challenges many doctrines such as Original Sin. If Adam and Eve did not exit, then Marriage would have no divine relevance. The overall facts point to God as Creator.

Originally posted by flexy123

Originally posted by Jordan River

At any rate if you are a gay christian I am most positive that you are forgiven. It is a tough road.

Yahad

Funny, because "forgiven" implies a sin. Explain why homosexuality is supposed a sin, please?
Or masturbation..or "not so proper" sex....or sex in general....or nudity...etc..etc..

Religion = Fail.

flexy,

No matter what, you are not going to change your opinion and I wish you would. Sodomy
is a sin. God's revealed it, it's His plan brother. You may have homosexual feelings
but you must remain chaste, not act on them. Pray, ask God's help if you are homosexual or in your case, support the "act" denying sodomy is a sin.

I am not posting them again, proof, unrepentant sodomites are in Hell. Read Jude
Chapter five, verse 7 and 2 Peter, Chapter 2:4-6.

Originally posted by colbe
I learned something a month ago I didn't Know...

First, I do know evolution is a theory, here is the new for me. The Church supports
micro-evolution not macro-evolution.

_____________

There are two principle views in debate on Evolution are Micro, the Catholic version, and Macral, the Darwinist position.

Is the Genesis account of creation literal? Were the days truly 24 hour periods, or can they represent a period? St. Peter writes, "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". God is not bound by time.

He is Lord of it! The point is, Micro Evolution can fit here and the Biblical account is not compromised. The significance of Adam is not lost. Why are Americans generally larger today than the average Chinese. It is because of diet, this is Micro Evolution.

The cross breeding of animals within their respective family or world is again Micro Evolution. Through cross breading, we have seen evolved faster horses, larger horses, shorter horses, even dancing horses. The same can be said for dogs, cats, cattle, sheep, and anything you can imagine. This is micro Evolution!


This differs greatly from Macro Evolution which is the teaching that life evolves from one life form to another such as; man grew from apes, and ultimately evolved from some lower life formed from the oceans.

To say that creation is an accident is like comparing someones tennis shoes believing they in time evolved to fit my feet. Macro evolution challenges many doctrines such as Original Sin. If Adam and Eve did not exit, then Marriage would have no divine relevance. The overall facts point to God as Creator.

well here is what I know about time. God didn't create light until the fourth day so there was no "days" by typical measure and could have been an eon for all we know.

I am still searching my drive and am wondering if maybe I saved it in a pm on a forum I am no longer with. What I do remember of her prophecies have come true on another call, the washington quake.

What is similar to Leary though is that she claimed the destruction of New York too.

She also said Pray over your food as many will die from it.

On another note I did find a link to Cardinal Siri and although it also had that october1958 link it is clearly removed from the web...

www.cardinalsiriandtheplotagainstthepope.com...

... still searching for the full text of her prophecies

reply to post by colbe

seagull,

I like your underlined. I disagree about sharing the faith...
Are we not to shout it from the rooftops what we hold most dear?

a quote from the Holy Father ~

"Anyone who has discovered Christ must lead others to Him.
A great joy cannot be kept to oneself. It has to be passed on."

World Youth Day, 2005

If by shouting it from the rooftops you mean a constant repetitive chorus of "our way is the only way to Truth", while denigrating all other beliefs, and/or behaviors, then no you shouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops. There are ways to share the word without being obnoxious... I leave it up to you, and others, to define obnoxious.

When one finds happiness, and fulfillment, in their lives, regardless of the reason, and no one is being hurt; who are we to judge? You, quite obviously, find a certain level of happiness in your religion. Others find it in other ways, some that perhaps others aren't comfortable with. That, dare I say it, isn't the problem of the one who has found their happiness. It lies with the one condemning.

I hope the hypocrates leave the entire country and stay out.
God is love, not hate.

reply to post by colbe


First, i am not homosexual, and if i were, so what?

Second, just a quick googling shows me that there are MANY different interpretations of those parts in the bible as well as stances against/pro homosexuality - depending how the BIBLE IS READ/TRANSLATED/INTERPRETED.

While it is right that (obviously) the rc. church thinks homosexuality is a sin, there are MANY branches within the Christian religion alone which tolerate/accept homosexuality.

There are many interpretations of bible texts (sodom, gomorrha etc.) its almost funny because it is anything BUT conclusive what those texts actually say. Some read it that way, others in a different way.

You have very well the right to have your own belief and interpretations - but this dos not make your belief "more true" as opposed to the branches of the church who do not see it that way and do NOT see homosexuality as a sin.

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People are civil at ATS, they actually discuss even though we differ on heartfelt subjects. Thanks AceWombat, no disrespect in your words.

So many are using "false prophet." It's because the message is a hard message to
hear. Our Lord is being specific. If you believe, get out of those two cities. I take it this prophecy is closer to happening.

People are upset at more than Our Lord's direction, they do not want to hear the reason
for God's just judgment.

And why have we've heard this "same" prophecy for so long? It's our nature, prideful disbelief so it's preparation, God's love, He repeats. It goes with thinking a message
is unfulfilled then declaring it false. Only God knows when most souls can be saved.
Even when we deny a prophecy because it hasn't happened yet.

Originally posted by anoncoholic

Originally posted by colbe
reply to post by anoncoholic

 

I wish I could reply to every post directed to me but there are so many, it's a lot to have to
write.

Anon,

Your post, I'll comment on a couple. You sound sincere to me.

Reading your reply, to me, it is kind of a mix, sometimes you acknowledge Christian facts and then deny others? Like objecting, protesting the Church and then saying, watch out OP, you are opening up yourself to the evil one posting these messages. I think you are Christian?

"All delusions and woefully inaccurate."

How can you believe this about the message in the OP? Darrell Bennett and others messengers, non-Catholic and Catholic have heard this prophecy from Heaven. How can John Leary's message be the very same as Darrell's prophetic? See the date, May 1, 2000.

It's a hard message but you either believe God is speaking, helping us, strengthening
belief in His Truth or He is silent. An all loving God is not silent, believe in prophecy.

We all have God's gift of free will. To grow, to change after discovering something new is everyone's desire. Fits with the meaning and importance of some to being intellectual. The same for being mistaken, misunderstanding something. It takes a smart person, yes? To say fine, I was wrong and change.

I shared the message on the forum because it reads as if the time is closer. I wish and pray for everyone to get prepared. I write over and over, Heaven keeps repeating the way is confession and daily prayer. And for Catholics make use of the grace of the Sacraments. I also have a personal reason for posting John Leary's message.

colbe

Hey colbe, was hoping you wouldn't miss that post as it got buried

Yes I cam saying it is delusional for a number of reasons. The fact that someone said it ten years ago is neither here nor there, Leary could have read it too and is merely regurgitating it now.

The fact that these" letters" come out now is also suspicious in my eyes, here is why...
forum.rickross.com...,62059,page=8

not only the timing but the content. None of it says anything that isn't already in the Bible and that soul (pun intended) source is good enough for me.

Now while I was here someone posted something that made me think I should actually look into Leary, regarding the black Pope in the Catholic church and this is something I also believe.

www.novusordowatch.org...

I had been looking for a website that has since disappeared (power of the Vatican no doubt) that went into detail about the events of that 1958 enclave that even included the threat of nuclear detonation in Rome if Cardinal Siri were to accept the election. Dark forces continue to work on the Catholic church and the pedophilia is just the most obvious example. The fact that no convictions happened and hush money and relocation occurred spells all the coverup I need to know.

Now having said all that understand that I do believe in prophecy and particularly as the time draws nearer but even the Bible states that many come in His name in these times. There are many like Leary and Bennet and to me we shall know them by their fruits. There was a woman who had a video of predictions up and subsequently closed her account becasue she was afraid of what she knew and was telling others.

Her name is Donna Lyons and she is a Church of God or First church of Christ or w/e but the point is I know for a fact she called the Indonesia quake the day before it happened. I have some of her predictions saved lemme see if I can find them...

anon, hello,

I can't find the "letters" you are referring to, could you explain. I get to page 7 and
that's it...

Sorry, you are doing it again, "here no there" to reply to the Bennett message when it
is the same as John Leary heard these many years later. God is outside of time and knows. I give up, you are interested if it shows the RCC to be "dark" and evil. It's true, there will be a false pope. I don't think it is Pope Benedict. Satan doesn't want to take down non-Christian beliefs or Protestantism.

The prophets are certainly persecuted, their cross. On "calling them", Irish mystic, Christina Gallagher gave testimony in front of others, standing before the World Trade Center exactly two years before 911. She said...these will be no more.

I am happy you believe some prophecy. Share the one prophecy when you find it.

Originally posted by colbe

Originally posted by anoncoholic

Originally posted by colbe

anon, hello,

I can't find the "letters" you are referring to, could you explain. I get to page 7 and
that's it...

Sorry, you are doing it again, "here no there" to reply to the Bennett message when it
is the same as John Leary heard these many years later. God is outside of time and knows. I give up, you are interested if it shows the RCC to be "dark" and evil. It's true, there will be a false pope. I don't think it is Pope Benedict. Satan doesn't want to take down non-Christian beliefs or Protestantism.

The prophets are certainly persecuted, their cross. On "calling them", Irish mystic, Christina Gallagher gave testimony in front of others, standing before the World Trade Center exactly two years before 911. She said...these will be no more.

I am happy you believe some prophecy. Share the one prophecy when you find it.

yeah my apologies, the link got malformed somehow and only brought up the page of all other pages. The actual letters I was talking about are from a site called trumpet call of God and the letters to Timothy (down now so it had moved... I am going to check Leary's site and compare it from memory

forum.rickross.com...,62059,page=8

irony here is it is the 8th page... sorry I ddnt check that link

All I could find on her now were comments of others on several forums. She is a 7th day adventist but some of her Bible interpretations raised a few eyebrows to say the least. While she has had several predictions come true many are of the wait and see attitude because of her jumping around from scripture to scripture but what I noticed in all her "jumping around" was she knows her Bible well enough to find specific books. That kind of familiarity only comes from knowing your Bible.

She had closed her youtube account and part of that was because she spoke out about tptb and she like many others live in fear of being silenced. All I can remember atm was about food killing people, the Washington quake, and the destruction of NY out of a list that was probably 40 or 50 items.

At any rate, they talk the talk... here is a snip

Question: Are we currently in the “Last Week”, the time of great tribulation?
Answer: No. But the “Last Week” is very near.
Note: It is important to remember, that it is not I who stated the things you read in the
Letters from God and His Christ, but rather I wrote as I heard from the Lord, unless
otherwise stated at the top of the Letter.
So then, the Lord God has said, “In seven years (from 2004), I send My Son to pluck (rapture) from
the earth all those both dead and still living who belong to Me; the rest left to fall under My judgment
(the Last Week)”. And, again, in another Letter, the Lord said, “Hence (from this point forward), in six
years time shall the nations fall, for the beast (antichrist) is now among them.” The Lord is saying that
the nations will be in the process of falling from grace, during the next six years, beginning from 2004;
also the nations will be in a process of collapse (economically, from war, natural disasters, etc.) during
this same time, culminating in their fall to the antichrist.
According to the Lord’s timeline, 2004 is one week (seven years) before the beginning
of the“Last Week”, which is also a period of seven years. The Last Week begins around
[12011] and ends around [12018].
Therefore, we are in the times of tribulation or troubles, but not “the” tribulation of the “Last Week”,
spoken of in the Books of Daniel and Revelation.
As Christians, we will soon be entering into a heightened period of tribulation and persecution,
according to Revelation 2:10...”Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer. Behold, the devil
shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation [2ten days]. Be
thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life”. These “ten days” shall begin [3this year],
as the Lord has both shown and spoken to Me. And from this time of trouble, the true Christians will
escape around [12011]...”Watch ye, therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy

source: [www.trumpetcallofgod.com]

Now the thing is, it all sounded legit and righteous but was anything but. Sentences were left hanging and the next line several spaces below it looked like a new sentence but read together it was pure evil. Someone likes playing games and it seemed funny to me that nobody else caught on to it. Things were stated that I remember were about Jesus handling members and it was a sexual connotation yet in that passive aggressive way that slipped by many who didn't see the duality in meanings.
i am going to look at Leary to be fair but in all honesty, I have seen too many "letters" already to not be biased against them all...

I'm sorry colbe, I am not buying it at all. I started reading the newest message but decided to check the very first one (pasted below)

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Wednesday, August 1, 2007

August 1, 2007

Jesus said: “My people, there are many miles of uninhabited lands that provide oxygen from the forests and places for wild animals to survive. Man is sprawling out from the cities in seeking places for houses and he is competing with the animals and creeping things for the use of the land. Many animal habitats are being invaded, and only special preserves and parks are protecting certain species of animals. It is man’s pollution of the air and water that is most threatening to My balance of nature. Man’s tampering with hybrids and cloning is another threat to My creation. It is man’s job to be a caretaker of his environment and not an abuser. As your population expands, there is an increasing need for food and fresh water. Man needs to strike a balance between his needs and the needs of nature to be able to pass on this gift to the next generation. Give Me praise and glory for My creation, and thank Me for all that I provide for you on this earth.”

end quote

Notice that this "Jesus" is taking credit for creation? I am guessing that throughout the entire calendar of messages not once does Leary glorify God but diminishes Him as he has done so above. I can tell you to stop following Leary, that is something you must decide on your own but IMO this is nothing but a sham to sell books or is downright evil in taking away the Glory of God and the people who fall for it are of the many who had been deceived.

I always wish that one day I would feel comfortable with a new age prophet but unfortunately I just don't feel any are worthy of the Glory of God and push come to shove, I will stick with the source rather than the echo chamber.

I Pray you find the wisdom to see through the eloquence and find the truth. I am not infallible and I could be wrong but the prudent thing to me is stick with the proven.

sorry

I hope he adds the Vatican to that list, as do a lot of alter boys.

second line

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Jesus said unto me: That will be $75 for your lawn care this week senior.

Sorry, I am not bashing Christians, just anyone who would believe this kind of crap.

Originally posted by personal stalker
I hope he adds the Vatican to that list, as do a lot of alter boys.

second line

These sexual sins are calling on My punishment for HOMOSEXUAL ACTS AND FORNICATION.

and this is an example of the duality of meaning. Is it written to imply Jesus should be punished?

When things are written ambiguously it leaves a lot of room for interpretation and does anyone really know how the writer meant it to be taken?

Deception is the devils tool and personally I am feeling like I had just been spiritually assaulted into thinking Jesus was gay by the above implication. I would hope I am way off base here but from experience with others and their "letters" I am not one to be so easily fooled.

There is a fine line between righteous indignation and self-righteousness. The only one who really knows where that line is is God and it seems to be getting harder all the time to discern it myself. With so many voices saying so many things it is spiritually deafening to walk away from what you know and embrace what you are being told.

Like I said, the prudent thing to me is stick with the proven

The Vatican is the epitome of evil and hypocrisy. The richest country in the world that claims to be religious has more pagan or Egyptian symbols and obelisks then anywhere else in the world. There is hardly anything religious about the church and Catholicism is the fake religion meant to alienate everyone. In the end you give a finger to "GOD", the vatican smiles.


How can these vatican heathens lets people starve all over the world when they have enough money to feed everyone for decades. Thinks twice before you give your money to the catholic church. It is a corporation and they hate you.

Originally posted by ShadowZion

Originally posted by NoHierarchy
reply to post by colbe

 

YOUR GOD IS DEAD.

Stop fueling your hate and bigotry with insane ramblings and excerpts from a 2000 year-old book.

There once were hundreds/thousands of creation stories and spiritual beliefs all over the world. The ONLY REASON that Christianity has spread is NOT because it's the truth but because it was 'lucky' enough to hitch a ride on the back of the most VORACIOUS, DESTRUCTIVE, AND CONQUEST-OBSESSED civilization ever to exist. Do you seriously think it's a COINCIDENCE that our modern civilization arose in the fertile crescent 10,000 years ago... and the 3 main world religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) originated in the SAME AREA?? No, it's not coincidence, it's just numbers and endless bloody conquest.

Keep in mind... if he was a real person, Jesus was a revolutionary who, were he alive today, would probably JOIN occupywallstreet or something similar. Jesus's teachings were far from the bigoted crap you're tainting his message of resistance/peace/charity with.

Are you absolutely stark raving mad, Jesus went through torture, and suffering for you and me and the world. If Jesus were alive right now, following what we have been taught of Jesus Christ, he would not be standing with the protestors but be at the front-lines as he was depicted to be in the bible.

WHICH front lines???

lol, this kind of stuff makes me chuckle a bit. There is not a loving God in this world that will hate a loving homosexual. They love God, so why can't God love a homo? Doesn't make sense, when God was the one that created them. Hmmmm.

I believe that there is a law of attraction that if you focus on a loving and positive energy you will get positive things in return. I haven't heard anything that's truly positive in religion, it's always Jesus will forgive our sins. God will punish the gays, the rapists, the murders, people who swear, liars, cheaters, being greedy. I heard all of that before, it's a never ending cycle that I heard all too much of.

People should know already what feels right, and what feels wrong. You don't need to go to a church and feel the burden and guilt for what you have commited.

A solution is to get up go out, take a breather outside, hangout with some friends, and talk about what you plan on doing for the next weekend. Simple, and guilt free.