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It is possible that all life is related, just not in the way that evolution thinks it is. From a creation point of view, it is possible.
So what? How on earth is that proof for your crazy claims?
You are using the argument from ignorance and argument from complexity again.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
It is possible that all life is related, just not in the way that evolution thinks it is. From a creation point of view, it is possible.
So what? How on earth is that proof for your crazy claims?
You are using the argument from ignorance and argument from complexity again.
What the hell is disgigurement? And explain why you will not address the points I made?
Those are far from what I would consider disgigurement, there is obviously order of some type.
What has that to do with your original statement or my reply to it?
But even in those examples I'll bet you still find order and semitry to design.
Are your trying to sell the old being sarcastic cherry. I am not in the market to buy it. as usual your reply is Fake, dishonest and typically you.
I was being sarscastic, the only excuse is that there is intelligence or creation behind them.
Your usual display of ignorance. It is nothing to do with survival of the fittest.
Well of course it is, survival of the fittest,
No point in expecting you to understand it then as you are under qualified.
anyone with half a brain knows that if something isn't going to make it, it's not going to make it.
And why would it? Evolution has nothing to say on the subject of creation and neither do I. When will that sink in?
The problem is this says nothing about creating new life.
There are many differences between you and I. I am honest, you are not. I answer questions you do not. I try to enter into an honest debate you do your utmost to avoid any debate. That is the short list so please stop comparing me to you as I find it insulting.
The difference between you and I is that there are things your considering or assuming to be common place not allowing species to survive, and I'm saying they are not natural.
Ok then 8 to 10 and in the low IQ range of that group.
Here I am supposedly 12 and I can see that everything is supposed to have a specific diet.
With the reading ability of a 5 year old. I asked you to provide evidence of your claim instead you provide a lie.
You also asknowledge the fact that we are in the 6th largest extinction.
Jeeze your poor use of English borders on the creepy.
Maybe, just maybe wouldn't you think some things no longer have food and have stepped on others food menu?
What a truly daft statement.
There is this simple equation of whats called supply and demand. There is no way that you can believe that any species is suppposed to just eat whatever it wants.
Yeah, yeah. The sad thing is I was looking for a credible response but it seems you are incapable so why bother.
I was looking for a credible link.
Don’t tell me what I am agreeing with. Answer my point Pinocchio.
Either way, its a limitation which means that evolution could not render a three headed human if it wanted to, which means evoution is NOT random and your agreeing with this.
You did not do as I asked and also read the links the responder provided did you? Who cares anyhow as you would never understand what was being explained due to your ignorance and denial.
Quit being a stoop, you know damn good and well that yahoo answers is NOT a credible source anymore than ATS is.
Again Pinocchio you tell me what I believe instead of addressing my points. You are a complete waste of time and effort
So you believe there is more random than pattern.
Can you explain what 'air' is? Your sloppy use of the English language reflects your sloppy lazy mind. Ill informed ignorance based judgments and generalisations. Absolutely pathetic.
Nevermind that millions of species breath air, and millions more live in water.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Can your asinine questions get any worse?
Why is it we never hear about a human baby not making it into this world because he is suppose to breath amonia rather than air?
Who gives a dam. I certainly don’t.
I see more pattern than I do randomness.
It's not so much a question of whats possible as it is whats not possible.
Well...the creation point of view isn't based on logic and has ZERO objective evidence behind it. So if you believe in that nonsense, you might just as well believe in unicorns...because after all, those are "possible" as well
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
It's not so much a question of whats possible as it is whats not possible.
Well...the creation point of view isn't based on logic and has ZERO objective evidence behind it. So if you believe in that nonsense, you might just as well believe in unicorns...because after all, those are "possible" as well
You show you are baffled by many questions and incapable of any honest answers
So here is the big question that I'm sort of baffled over.
Nope. You claim that instead of reading what I write which is a futile pursuit.
You claim that there seems to be absolute randomness in all of the life here on earth.
(yawns) yeah, yeah shocking. Why do you think that is then?
Yet when I look at them I find shocking simularitys, at least in land species....
The majority has two eyes, four limbs, a nose, a head, two ears, one mouth etc...
They don’t match what. What aquatic life as it is a big group. Oh the random thing again (Yawns) I refer you back to my previous answers.
Aquatic life also has patterns but they don't match with land species. So my big question to you is if there is so much pattern how do you explain it if evoltuion is suppose to be bases on random selection?
Oh dear what like eggs and bacon could grow on trees or farts could smell of lavender?
Natural selection could explain how certain things were kept the same way but the problem is that there are things that could have been better.
My god, I was joking but you are serious and come up with an even madder suggestion
For example, humans with webbed feet as we do live on a predominantly water planet.
(Shakes head in complete disbelief)
How about wings to fly as we seem to be relying on trucking and transportation to bring us the large selection of food we require.
Oh my. You need to step away from your keyboard and go lay down
Looking at adaptation, dont you agree that adaptation would not be needed had we of evolved correctly to begin with?
Because our environment is in constant flux. These changes select for advantage it is that simple but still way above your understanding.
Seriously answer this as its a solid fact, you claim that natural selection makes sure that the advantage survives, you said that yourself. So if thats true, why do we rely so much on adaptation?
Your use of redundant is not accepted in the context you use it no matter how you try to sneak it in.
Often to the point that it's redundant. Which leaves you with only two choices of how things have happened.
I reject your two choices and refer you back to over 450 pages
One is that we evolved so fast that adaptation was needed to fill in something that evolution could not, which I highly don't agree with, its like saying that evolution failed.
Another is that we never evolved to begin with and adaptation just so happens to be a trait we have.
Complete ignorant twaddle. Opinion formed from that ignorance and a refusal to understand anything of the world you live in.
The bottom line is that they are contradictions of each other, you surely don't need both, and to have both would imply that one is not working. Why do we adapt so much if we supposedly evolved? Your either admitting that we sucked at evolving, and didn't evolve correctly or your admitting adaptation just happened to be a trait we picked up for the hell of it.
If you wish to understand evolution I refer you back to these 450 pages and suggest you use Google.
Now you claimed yourself that only the advantages win in evolution, so please explain to me the adavantage of having evolved when we have adaptation, or why we would need adaptation if we supposedly evolved.
I tire of you making a stupidity based comment and claiming it is something I am admitting when you avoid answering, addressing or debating any point I do make. (Yawns) What am I going to admit next I wonder?
If you claim that our ability to adapt came after evolving, then you are admitting that evolution failed us.
Sorry that was suppose to be disfigurement, and I am addressing them.
Those are far from what I would consider disgigurement, there is obviously order of some type.
What the hell is disgigurement? And explain why you will not address the points I made?
Your claiming there is more randomness then there is patterns.
But even in those examples I'll bet you still find order and semitry to design.
What has that to do with your original statement or my reply to it?
You said it yourself, only the good advantages survive.
Well of course it is, survival of the fittest,
Your usual display of ignorance. It is nothing to do with survival of the fittest.
I was under the assumption that you feel that all of the life on this planet as we know it evolved from one another, am I wrong.
The problem is this says nothing about creating new life.
And why would it? Evolution has nothing to say on the subject of creation and neither do I. When will that sink in?
You also asknowledge the fact that we are in the 6th largest extinction.
With the reading ability of a 5 year old. I asked you to provide evidence of your claim instead you provide a lie.
Most of mine is just my typing, I know exactly what you mean though, sometimes when I read yours I realize that english couldn't be your primary language.
Maybe, just maybe wouldn't you think some things no longer have food and have stepped on others food menu?
Jeeze your poor use of English borders on the creepy.
Then I gave an equivalent response.
Yeah, yeah. The sad thing is I was looking for a credible response but it seems you are incapable so why bother.
Your inadvertinatly admitting that evolution can't create all forms of life, it's greatly limited, yet we have such a diverse list, how could it have happened, because it sure wasn't by evolution.
Either way, its a limitation which means that evolution could not render a three headed human if it wanted to, which means evoution is NOT random and your agreeing with this.
Don’t tell me what I am agreeing with. Answer my point Pinocchio.
Then why didn't you post the link?
Quit being a stoop, you know damn good and well that yahoo answers is NOT a credible source anymore than ATS is.
You did not do as I asked and also read the links the responder provided did you? Who cares anyhow as you would never understand what was being explained due to your ignorance and denial.
That was actually a question Japedo.
Again Pinocchio you tell me what I believe instead of addressing my points. You are a complete waste of time and effort
Oh they are general are they? Well then you should have no problem giving a reason why 2 atmospheres dominate this planet with life, yet I see you giving no explanation. Because you can't think of one that doesn't prove the pattern is larger than your willing to admit. Such an incredulous littlle dishonest person.
Can you explain what 'air' is? Your sloppy use of the English language reflects your sloppy lazy mind. Ill informed ignorance based judgments and generalisations. Absolutely pathetic.
It was just a vague point but it managed to work because you admitted that patterns are present a lot more than your willing to admitt.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Can your asinine questions get any worse?
Well you should Japedo, because it means your wrong, and life here is not random like you would like to pretend that it is, life has a patter, a very prominate pattern.
Who gives a dam. I certainly don’t.
You know. Your very low level of understanding of this world. Your incapacity to learn or understand. Your total lack of ability to read or spell coupled with a compulsion to lie and pursue a dishonest path is very boring. You have nothing new and have never had anything of value to offer. Can you guess what this means?
Evolution is whats wrong, there are to many flaws in this theory.
Well then, what exactly is wrong?
Your the one spitting out lies on here, trying to convince others that species don't need to eat a proper diet, they can jus eat what ever is available.
You show you are baffled by many questions and incapable of any honest answers
You either agree or you don't, which is it Japedo.
Nope. You claim that instead of reading what I write which is a futile pursuit.
Well it sure in the hell isn't because they evolved.
(yawns) yeah, yeah shocking. Why do you think that is then?
I don't see us as losing our wings as an advantage, and you clearly stated that the advantages win.
My god, I was joking but you are serious and come up with an even madder suggestion
Evolve or adapt, its the golden question, which is the answer?
Oh my. You need to step away from your keyboard and go lay down
But wait a minute, nothing else on this planet adapts like we do, so are you saying that only OUR enviroment is in a constant flux? And what exactly does that say about evolution? Is it failing us?
Because our environment is in constant flux. These changes select for advantage it is that simple but still way above your understanding.
Your answer is redundantly rejected.
Your use of redundant is not accepted in the context you use it no matter how you try to sneak it in.
That you do nothing but lie still when your put on the spot and can't give an honest answer. It's ok, doing so would show defeat anyhow.
I tire of you making a stupidity based comment and claiming it is something I am admitting when you avoid answering, addressing or debating any point I do make. (Yawns) What am I going to admit next I wonder?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by flyingfish
So now your trying to admitt that evolution is NOT random.
Do you know how ignorant this statement is? of course not, otherwise you would not have written it.
Try putting on your big boy pants we are talking about real science, not comic book characters
The patterns which are consistant break up the idea of evolution. We never see species, at least not groups of them, with three or four heads, which would be something that evolution would offer, should offer.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by MrXYZ
Evolution is whats wrong, there are to many flaws in this theory.
Well then, what exactly is wrong?
Oh I see you are telling me what I am claiming again. Quote where I made that claim or shut it.
Your claiming there is more randomness then there is patterns.
First did not say good advantage, Just advantage the good you added because you have a child’s view of life. Second, that does not mean survival of the fittest. I refer you back to 450 pages
You said it yourself, only the good advantages survive.
Why do you then go on to factor in creation when it has nothing to do with creation?
I was under the assumption that you feel that all of the life on this planet as we know it evolved from one another, am I wrong.
You'll have to remind me of what point you were making
Are We in the Middle of a Sixth Mass Extinction?
I don’t doubt that. With your displayed reading age I expect all words look like a foreign language to you.
Most of mine is just my typing, I know exactly what you mean though, sometimes when I read yours I realize that english couldn't be your primary language.
Oh here you go again telling me what I am admitting. I have told you too many times. EVOLUTION DOES NOT CREATE LIFE. IT CAN'T CREATE ANY LIFE FORM. Evolution is a word that describes a process of how life evolves resulting in the diversity we see around us today and in the fossil records
Your inadvertinatly admitting that evolution can't create all forms of life,
Ah the thread topic. So if it was not evolution explain the diversity we se around us today without referring to it.
it's greatly limited, yet we have such a diverse list, how could it have happened, because it sure wasn't by evolution.
The link was provided. The instruction to follow the other links after reading it was made clear. This was so someone with your low level of education could be lead gently towards the information you needed. Obviously I overestimated your level of comprehension and education. Can you even have an IQ that is a fraction?
Then why didn't you post the link?
Please tell me you are just playing thick You stated animals breathe air or in water. If you don’t see why that is sloppy and incorrect then you are not just playing thick.
Oh they are general are they? Well then you should have no problem giving a reason why 2 atmospheres dominate this planet with life, yet I see you giving no explanation. Because you can't think of one that doesn't prove the pattern is larger than your willing to admit. Such an incredulous littlle dishonest person.
Oh yet again you say I am admitting something only you would be stupid enough to say. Your asinine comment:
It was just a vague point but it managed to work because you admitted that patterns are present a lot more than your willing to admitt.
my reply: 'Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Can your asinine questions get any worse?'
Why is it we never hear about a human baby not making it into this world because he is suppose to breath amonia rather than air?
Oh the random and the pattern thing continues. I stand by my original comment. I dont give a dam about your unsupported low brow nonsense.
Well you should Japedo, because it means your wrong, and life here is not random like you would like to pretend that it is, life has a patter, a very prominate pattern.
Here you go again. Telling me what I am saying when the actual words and nonsense are yours
Your the one spitting out lies on here, trying to convince others that species don't need to eat a proper diet, they can jus eat what ever is available.
It is still 'Nope. You claim that instead of reading what I write which is a futile pursuit'
You either agree or you don't, which is it Japedo.
Hold up sonny. Where did that come from? You originally suggested:
I don't see us as losing our wings as an advantage, and you clearly stated that the advantages win.
But now you seem to be claiming that we lost our wings? I mean Hello! You do realise we never had wings? All you just wrote is, well just total nonsense
How about wings to fly as we seem to be relying on trucking and transportation to bring us the large selection of food we require
I refer you back to the 450 pages
Evolve or adapt, its the golden question, which is the answer?
No supporting evidence from you. No further comment from me.
But wait a minute, nothing else on this planet adapts like we do, so are you saying that only OUR enviroment is in a constant flux?
Yeah right, spot on but you don’t even know why
Your answer is redundantly rejected.
Your problem is and it’s a biggy. Your two options and your tripe below are meaningless. Based on ignorance and defended by dishonesty.
The bottom line is that they are contradictions of each other, you surely don't need both, and to have both would imply that one is not working.
believed to be the remains of ‘Karabo’
Well just recently I sent you a link so you could see for yourself that a prodigious savant proves our brains can work better. You ran an hid, didn't see you reply to it or acknowledge it at all. Typical.
Yet somehow you can't seem to be able to present us with a single example