Strange Website: www.Enigma-Amgine.com (a game)

Originally posted by thorneakavar

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As you can see the results look a lot like the error dumps people where finding, and I am wondering if it really was an accident, I am sure they could be queued to give a random dump on a wrong password attempt thus adding a bit of competition to the game. I found this earlier looking into steganography and I am trying to go back and find one of those dumps and see if they can be decrypted.

edit on 25-9-2011 by thorneakavar because: Double qoute..

Thats a certificate and you can't decipher that, no one has ever been able to decipher a 3DES SHA key. Don't wast your time.

reply to post by Marshall Twinie

Thanks for granting me the pleasure. but check out my post rite below our convo about the game "Before Last" let me now if you think im on to something please

if i could just add one thing to the puzzle it would let me know im on the rite track

*****
*****
again i am going to provide another view of your clues, thats not a techie answer.
if you techie cats that listend to me earlier to get the last clue, i again am 99% sure i have the target thread, but again i cannot locate the code in the source, or hidden in the text. incase you missed last time i was right.

but just like last time i know this is the thread, it quallifys in several different angels.
other than the usual CLUE that everyone has that can go a million directions. it just makes sense
it has heavy moderator input,
it was started by a mod,
it is a pretty good sized thread,
it is on the very subject of missing time, missing memories
and yes it satisfies your simple first.last clue
i like to provide my input when i can activley participate in the search, so if any of my tech savy companions from earlier want the right direction hit me up in the next five or so. If yahll are still up and at it ill tell yah my thoughts and well keep goin. if not ima go to bed, and ill drop it tommaro if no one has it yet.
keltar?
lynn?
druid?
xcal?
marsh?
coop?
janko?
im not saying only they may respond but i am sure they know what is goin on and that they know what to do with the info i have

What the heck is going on with page 7 of that Enigma site, I thought the text was going to give me a seizure or something!!

www.enigma-amgine.com...


Is it just me, or is something really weird with that image?

no? then bed it is. tommaro
first.last

SkepticOverlord stopped into chat tonight after posting many new pages in the Games forums. He has made it blatantly clear by now that the most important next step is to find the redacted page, the version that didnt get intercepted by UTS.

If you will recall, the redacted page was found in the Robbie Williams thread, found here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I would like to draw everyones attention to the following pages compiled by kai22:
Bottom moved: 8 18 22 23 29 32 34 36 40 41 42 43
Half of page moved: 15 31 39
Page 15 is also messed up in general

Page 15 has the WORST formatting so I will link it here. To access the other messed up pages just change the page number at the end of the URL.

There are many anomolies within this thread still, I believe that the unredacted page is to be found within the thread somewhere. I, and a few others, have looked but found nothing so far. I hope I can encourage a few new eyes to have a look. It is definately strange to say the least.

Below is the full text of page eight.

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was going to cause a crash of the DDH-Cta, but as I learn more, the situation seems much more complex than that. But it’s hard to know for sure. The feeling I have is like reading a fictional historical novel, and then trying to prove the fictional events in the novel actually happened. I’m exhausted. I need to get some sleep before the new people arrive.


It’s going to be a rough day, with only four hours of sleep, and all-day meetings scheduled with the new arrivals from the UTA, who now have me very concerned.


We’re taking a break after a three hour briefing with the new people, two of whom are certainly not qualified mathematicians. I would classify them as more “people of action” who also know some math. My team is terrified.


There was an intense argument in our latest meeting. Carl Mercant, who seems to be the “brains” of the new arrivals, is acting as if he’s the new team leader, and we’re not standing for it. I have an appointment with Henry Carter in 15 minutes. I just want to make sure I record this.


Henry is just as surprised as I am. We were able to confirm, through the chain of management, that Carl is not a new team leader, but instead a “coordination liaison” who reports directly to the UTA project committee. It’s his responsibility to insure that our differential modifications comply with the “direction and goals” of the UTA. None of us like the sound of that.


I can’t do this alone. I’ve let two of my team members, who have my trust, know about my efforts with this journal, as I don’t think I’ll be able to inject all the variable changes on my own. They fully support my efforts, and that we need to act as “UTA team players” for now, or we may be discovered. We agree that something serious is happening, and we’re all going to scour through our old notes and try to piece it together.


The Journal Of Decade 137 Differential Specialist Kent Alison: Entry 0986

Everything has been generally uneventful after the first troublesome day with our new UTA people. We’ve identified a series of small differential alterations that need to be applied to

Originally posted by IntegratedInstigator
SkepticOverlord stopped into chat tonight after posting many new pages in the Games forums. He has made it blatantly clear by now that the most important next step is to find the redacted page, the version that didnt get intercepted by UTS.

If you will recall, the redacted page was found in the Robbie Williams thread, found here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I would like to draw everyones attention to the following pages compiled by kai22:
Bottom moved: 8 18 22 23 29 32 34 36 40 41 42 43
Half of page moved: 15 31 39
Page 15 is also messed up in general

Page 15 has the WORST formatting so I will link it here. To access the other messed up pages just change the page number at the end of the URL.

There are many anomolies within this thread still, I believe that the unredacted page is to be found within the thread somewhere. I, and a few others, have looked but found nothing so far. I hope I can encourage a few new eyes to have a look. It is definately strange to say the least.

edit on 26-9-2011 by IntegratedInstigator because: (no reason given)

I stated earlier there maybe two clues hidden in the same thread. The unredaction should be in there, but don't use the conventions we've followed so far. Be original. Think outside the box.

You guys are hot on it. Good Luck!

Here are the latest Recaps, V3: (updated Sept. 26, 2011)
The OP, InSanE1, found a mysterious ad on ATS. With this image:

Note: This is a GAME sponsored by ATS. Here are a few hints given to us by Springer:
1. Only two people are running the game, Skeptic Overlord, and Springer. (/pg46#pid12381609)
2. There is no other staff of ATS posting clues in this game. (/pg45#pid12381530)
3. There are no phone numbers involved. No clues derive to actual phone numbers. (/pg47#pid12382140)
Skeptic Overlord has reduced the 50 post requirement for chat to 10 for the duration of the game. Make ten posts to join the Enigma chatroom on ATS. (/pg66#pid2390742)
8 pages into the thread, we get THIS Motivation? Not really. Most of us contributing love puzzles anyway. The first person to enter the last clue wins. Only one winner here.

Prequel to the Puzzle.(The story is by Skeptic Overlord but from 2003, and any correlations to that story are coincidence.)
The story line so far: (feel free to correct errors!)
In the year 2111, corrections to past are easily achieved, by adjusting the TPE, yet they are experiencing some unperceived consequences. They have assigned 8 differential specialists and 3 mathematicians to our current timeline, of which Kent is one, and he is trying to send Journal entries back to us in this timeline, and needs our help desperately. They are trying to localize the problem in this decade, numbered 138, but are experiencing cascading errors which they believe will lead to the collapse of the Planet Earth.....
Questions you have after reading that? Well, that is what this game is all about.

Cast of Characters: (so far-thanks to stormson and Grower for listing them.)
1. Foster Taylor-Project Leader, Northern, Inc.
2. Parker Richardson-Curator, HCRG.
3. Kent Allison-Differential Specialist.
4. Carl-Kent's teammate.
5. Henry Carter-Kent's boss.
6. Tulaine Obama-Obama's great grandson - Senior member of the Joint Oversight Board of the UTA, and Vice-Chairman of the Enigma-Amgine project committee.
7. Kenneth Ingersoll, Chief of Staff for Tulaine Obama.
Solved acronyms:
1. TPE-Time Phase Equation.
2. UTA-United Territories Administration.
3. IT-Incorporated Territory.
4. CE-Correction Event. (unverified)
5. AFA-All Feeds Announcement.
6. NR-Network Resource. What they call the "new" internet in 2111.
7: CA-Correction Adjustment.
8. TZ-Toroid Zone.
9. HCRG-Historical Compliance and Research Group.

kaleshchand tells us to follow the twitters for the game HERE. (no Twitter acount needed!)
lynn112 has listed all the tweets from Kent (36 total) in ascending order, (as of 9/22/11 @ 5:15pm EST) in case they disappear, HERE.
LightAssassin has concluded that the error message is a counter that is counting down to Oct 11, 2011. A deadline, perhaps?
Marshall Twinie provides transcripts of all the chat sessions with S.O., HERE.
Xcalibur254 compiles all the discovered Journal entries into a single .PDF file, available for viewing online HERE. Go there to view all of the Journal pages found so far. They are sequential to page seven, and we have six with no particular place. We have 13 Journal pages so far, and time is running out.....

CLUES from the Journals:
"the gates really twinkle"=solved
"the world is run by 147"=solved
"adl irony"=solved
"war time tt0"=solved
"a star story"=solved.
"important death is delayed"=solved
"oceaneering watch"=solved
"moderate brings fraud story"=solved

Please read the lynn112 link below if you have questions about how they were solved.

Latest Clue, as of Sept. 26, 2011: (from the Enigma-Amgine site) "last.before"

Marshall Twinie also is compiling a list of who discovered which Journal entries, for proper credit, HERE.
lynn112 also is organizing a comprehensive list of how we found the Journal entries, as we find them, listed with the filenames, HERE. (updated Sept. 25, 2011)

Feel free to u2u any updates or revisions that may be necessary.

Dunno if anyone noticed, but cyberboiraves posted the text to the unredacted page 8 a few posts above this. He did not, however, post any info on how it was obtained.

Edit: Oh yeah, where'd you get that at?

Note to EVERYONE linking the recaps in their sig:

They have been re-formatted and updated, so PLEASE change the URL to /pg103#pid12420352. That should be an easy text fix for you. Also add "V3" in the text field, to denote the updates to the latest clues! It may be a day or two before everyone fixes their links, so it's best to differentiate and keep things current. This is the third round of updates, and instead of saying latest, newest, or most recent, I decided to change it to version numbers. This makes it much easier to distinguish which version of the updates you are linking to. The next set of updates, will, of course be labeled as V4, following the same format. Who knows how long this game will continue.....

To those who want to link the recaps in your sig: (newer members)

Go HERE. That is the link to your personal account settings. Scroll down to the section where it displays Your Signature.

Copy and paste this text (from the first bracket to the last): [ url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread754911/pg103#pid12420352]ReCaps of the Enigma-Amgine Puzzle V3[/url ], but take out the spaces after the first bracket and before the last bracket after you paste it.

Submit the changes. You now have an easy link to all the information for easy access and reference, instead of having to dig through pages of info. Feel free to u2u me if you have any questions.

Originally posted by bubbles22
reply to post by Marshall Twinie

 

Thanks for granting me the pleasure. but check out my post rite below our convo about the game "Before Last" let me now if you think im on to something please

yeah i had noticed it and mentioned it to everyone in the chatroom
they began discussing it after a few thought it was a good way to go

as to now, i haven't a clue any more what is going on
because so many different options were and are being discussed


i will be posting the new chat log right now as well as updating the google docs for it
so that everyone can catch up with reading what questions were asked
and what SkepticOverlord had as a reply

Marshall

Originally posted by InTheFlesh1980
Dunno if anyone noticed, but cyberboiraves posted the text to the unredacted page 8 a few posts above this. He did not, however, post any info on how it was obtained.

Edit: Oh yeah, where'd you get that at?

edit on 26-9-2011 by InTheFlesh1980 because: Duh!

Can you bump that forward for us?

We'd like to know.

new chat log, google docs has also been updated with the newest log
link in my signature

SkepticOverlord joined the room.

IntegratedInstigator: hey skeptic

SkepticOverlord: hello all

PhilosophyOfPeace: welcome Overlord

Marshall Twinie: hi SO and thanks

Cyberboiraves: howdy SO

IntegratedInstigator: been busy with new threads I see

BeyondTheFold: Hi

PhilosophyOfPeace: Sooo yeah... page 8 huh?
SkepticOverlord: meh, it was planned to provide the raw text at this point

thorneakavar: I think we found all the clues.. because he just posted the terms of winning

IntegratedInstigator: so what is with last.before? fairly vague, no?
PhilosophyOfPeace: We still need to find the actual page 8 then?
SkepticOverlord: o_O
Marshall Twinie: lol
PhilosophyOfPeace: lol
coldfiremx: crazy eyes

Sage2000: so we were just going too damn slow?
PhilosophyOfPeace: watch the language before your Overlord! lmao

thorneakavar: rhapsody? As in a free subscription to rhapsody on the Ipad?
IntegratedInstigator: no no last.fm, the free online music streaming website
IntegratedInstigator: thats what last.before is about

thorneakavar: so in your general opinion SO and without giving hints, are we behind schedule, on, or ahead?

coldfiremx: Why is page 8 .txt and .jpg different
BeyondTheFold: SO, you said post the texts at this point. What is this point?
SkepticOverlord: coldfiremx: huh

BeyondTheFold: The page 8 txt link is broken
SkepticOverlord: BeyondTheFold: what texts?
BeyondTheFold: The ones you just put up
SkepticOverlord: BeyondTheFold: have no idea what you're talking about
)@@_
(@@)
BeyondTheFold: Hmmm, neither do I these days

coldfiremx: www.abovetopsecret.com...
coldfiremx: different than the page 8 .jpg
SkepticOverlord: coldfiremx: funny, that

thorneakavar: hmm... is there an in game related reason for posting the pages in the threads,
or is it just for people to catch up with... I understand if you cant answer
IntegratedInstigator: wow SO is fast... I click on the link, and its removed
coldfiremx: LOL
SkepticOverlord: the point was to help newcomers, of which we have many...
SkepticOverlord: but I got ahead of myself and noticed that it was too early to post them.
BeyondTheFold: Refresh the page thorne, they are all gone
SkepticOverlord: sorry

coldfiremx: i'm sure someone on here got them
BeyondTheFold: What do you mean "too early"
SkepticOverlord: BeyondTheFold: too early
PhilosophyOfPeace: Its okay SO just leave it there

Cameoii: SO, is there a rhyme or reason to the file names or are they random?
SkepticOverlord: Cameoii: can't say

SkepticOverlord: Marshall Twinie: one of them
(the above comment to me(Marshall Twinie) might be an actual reply to Cameoii, though i can not make sense of it as the chat was running way too fast and SkepticOverLord might have clicked my name in erorr instead as i had not asked any questions and my question asking what it meant as i added 2 ?'s)
Marshall Twinie: SO, one of them ??

coldfiremx: SO is kent, he's making errors
IntegratedInstigator: all the text links on enigma site are gone too just img links left

SkepticOverlord: suffice to say, finding the unreacted version of the redacted page is very important right now

PhilosophyOfPeace: We know SO but you seriously put the unredacted page in the deepest hole you could find
IntegratedInstigator: something is still to be found there
SkepticOverlord: PhilosophyOfPeace: actually, not

thorneakavar: would I be wasting my time in photoshop with the redacted version?
SkepticOverlord: thorneakavar: though you might learn something cool in Photoshop doing it

Cameoii: SO: Is there a way to figure out what page a clue will be on?
SkepticOverlord: Cameoii: sometimes

Cameoii: SO: Is the order that these pages were found important to the game?
SkepticOverlord: Cameoii: no

SkepticOverlord: okay... that's all for now, have fun!

Does anybody in chat know where this cat got the unredacted text from page 8???

Originally posted by cyberboiraves
Below is the full text of page eight.

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was going to cause a crash of the DDH-Cta, but as I learn more, the situation seems much more complex than that. But it’s hard to know for sure. The feeling I have is like reading a fictional historical novel, and then trying to prove the fictional events in the novel actually happened. I’m exhausted. I need to get some sleep before the new people arrive.


It’s going to be a rough day, with only four hours of sleep, and all-day meetings scheduled with the new arrivals from the UTA, who now have me very concerned.


We’re taking a break after a three hour briefing with the new people, two of whom are certainly not qualified mathematicians. I would classify them as more “people of action” who also know some math. My team is terrified.


There was an intense argument in our latest meeting. Carl Mercant, who seems to be the “brains” of the new arrivals, is acting as if he’s the new team leader, and we’re not standing for it. I have an appointment with Henry Carter in 15 minutes. I just want to make sure I record this.


Henry is just as surprised as I am. We were able to confirm, through the chain of management, that Carl is not a new team leader, but instead a “coordination liaison” who reports directly to the UTA project committee. It’s his responsibility to insure that our differential modifications comply with the “direction and goals” of the UTA. None of us like the sound of that.


I can’t do this alone. I’ve let two of my team members, who have my trust, know about my efforts with this journal, as I don’t think I’ll be able to inject all the variable changes on my own. They fully support my efforts, and that we need to act as “UTA team players” for now, or we may be discovered. We agree that something serious is happening, and we’re all going to scour through our old notes and try to piece it together.


The Journal Of Decade 137 Differential Specialist Kent Alison: Entry 0986

Everything has been generally uneventful after the first troublesome day with our new UTA people. We’ve identified a series of small differential alterations that need to be applied to

reply to post by InTheFlesh1980


I still had the tab open before the link got 404d.

Originally posted by InTheFlesh1980
Does anybody in chat know where this cat got the unredacted text from page 8???

Originally posted by cyberboiraves
Below is the full text of page eight.

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was going to cause a crash of the DDH-Cta, but as I learn more, the situation seems much more complex than that. But it’s hard to know for sure. The feeling I have is like reading a fictional historical novel, and then trying to prove the fictional events in the novel actually happened. I’m exhausted. I need to get some sleep before the new people arrive.


It’s going to be a rough day, with only four hours of sleep, and all-day meetings scheduled with the new arrivals from the UTA, who now have me very concerned.


We’re taking a break after a three hour briefing with the new people, two of whom are certainly not qualified mathematicians. I would classify them as more “people of action” who also know some math. My team is terrified.


There was an intense argument in our latest meeting. Carl Mercant, who seems to be the “brains” of the new arrivals, is acting as if he’s the new team leader, and we’re not standing for it. I have an appointment with Henry Carter in 15 minutes. I just want to make sure I record this.


Henry is just as surprised as I am. We were able to confirm, through the chain of management, that Carl is not a new team leader, but instead a “coordination liaison” who reports directly to the UTA project committee. It’s his responsibility to insure that our differential modifications comply with the “direction and goals” of the UTA. None of us like the sound of that.


I can’t do this alone. I’ve let two of my team members, who have my trust, know about my efforts with this journal, as I don’t think I’ll be able to inject all the variable changes on my own. They fully support my efforts, and that we need to act as “UTA team players” for now, or we may be discovered. We agree that something serious is happening, and we’re all going to scour through our old notes and try to piece it together.


The Journal Of Decade 137 Differential Specialist Kent Alison: Entry 0986

Everything has been generally uneventful after the first troublesome day with our new UTA people. We’ve identified a series of small differential alterations that need to be applied to

No, and please explain the how and when it was discovered, please, that is page 8. S.O. said it was important. We need the original doc, with a filename, and how it was found.

Anyone?

reply to post by Druid42


unfortunately there is NO doc.

S.O. made new threads about the full texts and then removed them just as quickly
but we caught them and went to get the full text before S.O. had to chance to 404 them all

that is why that page 8 in full text is only that "the full text"
no one had the chance to grab the url for the .jpg file

but if you want something you might think is useful, i can post the entire HTML source code
of the enigma-amgine.com webpage just before it got changed to how it is seen now

Marshall

reply to post by Marshall Twinie


So he did bleed a clue?

Please, post what you have. I'm very interested. Does everyone agree that is Journal page 8? How do we add it in?

I'm sure S.O. is not happy right now.