I am a Psychopath, does that make me a bad person?

reply to post by mblahnikluver


please tell us more of how one can be cured of being bi-polar / manic depressive. please tell us how you were cured.

I'm hungover.

But I will reply to posts later.

reply to post by 0731JLVR

Psychopaths are usually highly intelligent people & are not alone ongoing (they claim to not need people but they are seldom alone lengths of time).

I'm no Doctor (by any stretch, in all 11 dimensions) but I am --certain-- that what you say here, is absolutely spot on. I encountered those in my life, who totally completely fit ALL the checklist items for that Condition. And --none-- of them were ever ever people averse, (**I** am people averse, see page 3) (I use averse as aversion and avoidant, though I am not a mysanthrope.) Those remorseless Ones loooooove people, they find them yummy, and would prefer to be around them, like I, with........food!
Thank you for your post, by-the-way, that was interesting, and my sympathies go out to you.

All the OP did was make the common error that most ego maniacs or "psychopaths" make and that is they just want to brag about how slick they are. In fact the OP is most likely a PATHOLOGICAL liar with a false sense of grandiose about anything he/she has ever really done. More often than not this person has low self esteem and makes up a different person to be, in this case he fancies himself a psychopath with a huge ego and cant help but want to tell anyone. But the downfall here is that like a saw a post earlier most people wont want anything to do with you after because they wont trust you.

Anyways get a life OP i for one am not impressed.

Aparently something like 1 in 80 people are one so that means there are probably a fair few here on ats and also kown to us/in our families!

reply to largefries:

I am Christian & I believe in Heaven & Hell, so I do think there is evil. I also believe that people are biologically different.

So for instance, my belief is that (as a Christian), a psychopath is also held accountable as anyone else for their actions but it would be that they do have different challenges & God Deals with them according to these challenges. So too that non psychopaths are shown what to watch out for in life as to guarding ourselves from harm. NO EXCUSE for a psychopath to hurt a person or for non psychopaths to walk blindly through the world.

I also see two scenerios:

1. A psychopath would come to a party for instance, eat the chocolate pie & leaves abruptly, not engaging in conversation.
2. Someone hosts a party, they sit around & gossip about people in harmful ways & to no end.
Who is worse?

Two scriptures came to mind often when married to ex h psychopath:

"God uses the foolish to shame the wise. And the weak to shame the strong." (Psychopaths could be considered foolish but are often strong in their nature/action (high IQ, talents/skills)).

& why is that?

Adam & Eve sinned be eating from the tree of Knowledge, "of good & evil."

So?

We are connected through our hearts, God Is Love.

Thank you. I actually learned a lot from psychopath ex h. I am rather opposite of him as I FEEL too much at times. (your example of eating too much would be the same.. people are inclined to.. abcd).
He taught me how to stay in my heart & that I do not have to FEEL everything! It worked. I do feel of course but I don't allow my feelings to control me in the way I did before, I allow myself to stay in my heart rather than thinking about or feeling everything as I did prior.

I believe the man is spiritually gifted, if one can keep their guard around them, he is Shown a lot by God & I believe there is a purpose for his life on this earth. He is afraid of love in walking in love, ongoing (which is played out in his relationships & actions of intimate nature). Again this is largely biological & pervasive.

I have read that treating psychopathy early on is so important. Once patterns set in it is hard to change.

anyways..
yeah, my life is upside down right now but I'll be ok! There's a larger reason for things happening as they do & no matter; important are the lessons in life.

Originally posted by simone50m
reply to post by 0731JLVR

 

Psychopaths are usually highly intelligent people & are not alone ongoing (they claim to not need people but they are seldom alone lengths of time).

I'm no Doctor (by any stretch, in all 11 dimensions) but I am --certain-- that what you say here, is absolutely spot on. I encountered those in my life, who totally completely fit ALL the checklist items for that Condition. And --none-- of them were ever ever people averse, (**I** am people averse, see page 3) (I use averse as aversion and avoidant, though I am not a mysanthrope.) Those remorseless Ones loooooove people, they find them yummy, and would prefer to be around them, like I, with........food!
Thank you for your post, by-the-way, that was interesting, and my sympathies go out to you.

edit on 19-9-2011 by simone50m because: edit

Dont worry about being a P. Most ATS's are wacko in some mild or major way!! In fact you have to be a bit wacko to be a member and read some of the crap that gets posted. A sense of humour helps!

And you dontnhave to be a P or a wacko to be bad. eg. take a loook at the Pope and Papal history!

Personally I think there are varying degrees of psychopath in all of us. I display a few classic psychopathic traits. But I certainly wouldnt regard myself as one.

Im not even sure it is an accurate concept. The paradigm of psychopathy is after all contrived by man through observation of seemingly related subjects and behaviours. Diagnosis is usualy dichotomous, you either are a psychopath or you're not. It's like the fine line between soup and stew. Exactly where is that apex point where one turns instantly into the other.

There should be a scale for measuring degrees of psychopath. The fact that we have not identified a chemical/pysiological cause by now, suggests to me that the condition is acquired and likely a product of environment/social stimuli.

Things like desensitized violence on TV, materialism, greed, trash culture etc can, in my opinion breed psycopaths, often replete with clip on emotions and "I can't believe it's not empathy".

The fact that so much of our mainstream culture and marketing (note how I coupled them) rely on and aim to provoke a limbic response from people, makes me wonder is a psychopath a person who relies on their limbic brain more than the average person and for processes which should by handled by our conscious brain. Certain experiences or lack thereof, particularly in formative years could condition a response whereby the subject adopts a radical mental approach to and record of said experience. If the experience is a fundamental one, like a first social interaction, a traumatic experience etc, then the method of dealing with it will likely be used again, at least as a yardstick.

The fact that a lot of the more infamous psychopaths seem to have the loner/ social misfit profile makes me think that this is an acquired social disease. Disease might not even be an accurate term. It could be a natural response to extreme or proliferate stimuli or a lack of such or measures of both.

Oh there's a census taker at the door and it just so happens I've got a nice Chianti and some fresh fava beans in the kitchen.Goitta go.

Originally posted by LargeFries
reply to post by mblahnikluver

 

please tell us more of how one can be cured of being bi-polar / manic depressive. please tell us how you were cured.

Honestly, seroquel worked wonders for me. I am not a fan of pharma meds but this worked for me. The side effects were not fun but it really did balance me out. I no longer take it but I do credit it with make me feel like me again. I took it for about a year and then was slowly taken off of it. I didn't have any withdrawls on anything like that. I am a believer that situations and circumstances can trigger certain things like bi-polar and I feel the situation i was in prior to diagnosis brought it out so to speak. I am not ashamed of it by any means. In many ways it made me who I am. I'm much more positive and stronger as a person because of it.

Do you feel passion?
Humility?
Anguish?
Love?
Joy?
Hope?
Determination?
Courage?
Inspiration?


Are you ever moved by beauty? Have you ever cried from happiness? Have you ever been so lost in love that you found yourself reduced to formless elements? Have you ever cared so much for the suffering of another that you thought you would bleed to death from the pain of it? Have you ever been willing to make a sacrifice for someone else?

Man, you're just not living if you say no to these questions. If that is the case - I wish you well in your quarantined, vacuum of a world. That just isn't living. You're missing out friend.

I have a theory about you and this thread you have created. I think that you are a student somewhere....and you created this thread as an experiment and a source of information for your studies.

I'm just saying.

^^ beautifully said .

what is the problem with society mores the point to add. there is nothing to say for the value of others when they would just drag any actual progress back down to their level of 'normal'.

try and tell one of these zombies , "man never went to the moon" , see how far their small minds run with you .

you'd be abandoned as a madman , even though correct . that is society the psychopaths , driving on by from the hit and run road accident where you were laying there.

as for freud , i dont know nor care how they give such credence to him. what he knew best was how to shovel coc aine up his nose ,

while seeking more clients to fuel his excessive behaviours with their money. did he seek to heal them? no.

were they paying lab rats to him ? yes

To answer the original question, in my opinion, you are only "bad" when your mental problems cause physical or mental harm to others. If you cannot control these impulses then you shoud be put away from society because you can cause others to become mentally ill or die who are victims of your impulses.

reply to post by watchitburn


Committing terrible acts makes you a bad person, having thoughts of committing terrible acts doesn't necessarily make you one. Being a psychopath doesn't make you a bad person, but committing atrocities certainly does. In my humble opinion, good day to you sir.

It's a problem only if you are riding on a Cycle Path.












i.e. A psychopath on a cycle path. nyuk, nyuk.

This is just stupid nonsense.

Keep telling yourself you cant change, and you wont.

I do not believe in a fixed "psychopath" or "sociopath" state.

I believe on can exist in that state of mind; but consciousness being fluid, it can be changed.

You just have to want it. The first thing to realize is that you have a problem.

But, as a psychopath, you remain true to form. And in this psychopathic culture, you seem to think psychopath is just another 'type', and so drown in that repulsive moral relativism of "it doesnt matter".

reply to post by watchitburn

I find myself unable believe in something I can cannot see or measure in a quantifiable way.

Have you ever seen or measured your brain ? You say you are a psychopath but, I can't even tell by your OP that you even know the symptoms of psychopathy. So I think you figured you could get replys, attention and flags,
just by the title of your thread

reply to post by watchitburn

Psychopathy is a mental disorder characterized primarily by a lack of empathy and remorse, shallow emotions, egocentricity, and deceptiveness. Psychopaths are highly prone to antisocial behavior and abusive treatment of others, and are very disproportionately responsible for violent crime. Though lacking empathy and emotional depth, they often manage to pass themselves off as normal people by feigning emotions and lying about their pasts.

Source

Something tells me you are either lying about yourself or you are a typical sociopath and trying to be deceptive.

What do you want out of this thread?
By the way, just get away somewhere remote with somebody just like you. Would be a very interesting experiment.