I am a Psychopath, does that make me a bad person?

I think it may be a case of "delusions of psychopathy"

If aliens attacked earth and were by all measures a much superior race AND most people thought the humans were going to lose, but fought anyway because that's what humans do...

-and-

After escaping from the burnt up city and braving the wilderness, you're caught by an alien that is collecting samples from the trees. The alien asks you to be his slave and live, or run and die. You have reason to think he's honest. You notice that he does not have an identifiable weapon on him. You have a pistol beneath your coat. You think there's a good chance you can kill him by lying to him and shooting him when he looks away and then making a quick run for it.

Do you:
1) Drop your weapon and become his slave, leaving behind other humans to die.
2) Lie to him and try to shoot him so that you can rejoin other people in the fight to survive.

Originally posted by The Old American
reply to post by watchitburn

 

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Honestly, if you were truly a psychopath you wouldn't apologize for not being clear. Unless, of course, you're trying to snow us, which is also a psychopathic trait. Psychopaths are not trustworthy. If you truly are one, and not just a troll, people, when they find this out, won't have anything to do with you.

/TOA

edit on 18-9-2011 by The Old American because: (no reason given)

Well, this is an anonymous forum. So I do not see how anyone else's thoughts have any bearing. But then why am I posting this?
Contradictions upon contradictions.

Originally posted by Swingline50022
reply to post by watchitburn

 

Have you considered giving up psychopathy? Do you think you could quit? Do you want to quit?

I have no idea how I would quit being me. Nor do I have any incentive to do so. being me has worked pretty well so far. For me.

Originally posted by watchitburn
But otherwise I would get along just fine never having any interaction with a human being.

This sounds like you trying to fit the description of anti social personality disorder, but misinterpreting it.
Being antisocial isn't a trait psychopathy, probably the opposite. Anti-social personality disorder (psychopathy) doesn't mean literally anti-social.

Originally posted by crazydaisy
Have you been cruel to other people?
Do you feel guilt?

I am sure I have, but nothing specifically that stands out in my memory. No I do not feel guilt for anything I have done. Looking back there are some moments I think I could have handled better, but the past is past, and cannot be helped.

reply to post by dragonridr


Exactly! If a psychopath is diagnosed as one, they will deny it vehemently.

Hello,

I'd be really interested to see what your solution would be to the problem posed here, if you'd care to oblige.

Cheers

sounds more like a sociopath then psychopathy...have you used people to further your own ends then tossed them aside with no guilt?

Originally posted by watchitburn

Originally posted by Signals
Do you feel sympathy for others?

Remorse for things you have done wrong?

What is your current job position / situation?

Do you often lie about your past?

No, I do not feel sympathy for others. Everyone has the chance to make their own decisions.

No, I feel no remorse. Anyone I have "wronged" allowed themselves to be in that position.

I am currently active duty military.

No, I do not lie about my past. I will not speak of certain things if they serve no purpose, but making up thing also serves no purpose.

Well then, psychopaths lie a lot about their past...

Also, as another poster pointed out, psychopaths rarely (if ever) admit or realize they are in fact psychopaths, they think they are normal and everybody else is to be used and abused like inanimate objects or animals.

So my diagnosis is NO, not a psychopath.

Crazy?

Maybe

Originally posted by watchitburn
I find myself unable believe in something I can cannot see or measure in a quantifiable way.

Can you see or measure the past? You must not believe in the past then, right?

You can not see or measure the future, so you must not believe in the future?

Can you see and measure everything in the present? If not, can you believe in the present?

Okay, some tough questions, but you don't have to answer them all. I would argue that if you can use reason you are not really a psychopath, because pychopaths have no feelings, or so the definition goes.

Originally posted by watchitburn

No, I do not lie about my past. I will not speak of certain things if they serve no purpose, but making up thing also serves no purpose.

Making something up can serve a purpose. Logically i'm sure you'd realize being a jew in Nazi controlled Germany Lying about being jewish and knowly being able to get away with it would serve a purpose.

I am a Psychopath, does that make me a bad person?

Almost by definition, a psychopath cannot and will not understand their issues. This is exactly what makes them psychopathic... so I have to question your own diagnosis.

Secondly, defining good and bad as a personality, is not as easy as that. Much of it depends on what you do to others, not what you say. So, this sounds a lot like a bust for some attention... which may make you a lot of things that has not a lot to do with psychopathy.

You do make a valid point, but the vast majority of what is known about psychopathy is learned from those who are incarcerated.

I have not been incarcerated in 10 years and no one ever asked me any questions about my mental status so I cannot give much of an answer to the "accepted definition" of psychopathy.

reply to post by watchitburn

I would get along just fine never having any interaction with a human being.

There is a little-discussed DSM Diagnosis called Schizoid Personality Disorder. It is easily found on Wikipedia, to learn the details. SPDs are exceptionally people-averse,
Also, I know that different Conditions overlap.
A Psychiatrist gave me the SPD diagnosis, which fits pretty well, however, I am empathic, sympathetic, Asperger, ptsd aspects (had experienced things, ya know..) sensory sensitive intolerant, and other stuff.

A clinical chronic Mess!

Originally posted by rom12345
Who told you, that you are a psychopath, and what was their reasoning in saying so ?
Are you a self proclaimed psychopath ?

I was diagnosed buy a DOD Psychiatrist after completing the PCL-R checklist. I scored a 34.

Originally posted by UniverSoul
reply to post by watchitburn

 

most people that are considered 'normal' have more f'd up problems then your average pyschopath
i believe that pyschopaths have an ability to see the world for what it is but our system of language and society makes it impossible for them to express it

I agree with you 100%. I am able to observe what is going on in this world without any bias. And in my opinion, the
"average Joe" is screwed.

reply to post by watchitburn

Might I suggest that 'having no use for people' as you stated and being a self declared Psychopath probably isn't the BEST personality type to be in our Armed Forces? I'm just thinking, the Military has become a real 'people-person' kind of job with all this peacekeeping and nation building going on. Wouldn't that be a real BAD place for a person with your....unique outlook on life?

Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by watchitburn

 

You do realize a psychopath would never call themselves one. By nature you wouldn't know you were so let me say im highly skeptical of your claim. I for one do know a psychopath and she has literally no concern for others at all. Her biggest problem in life her inability to show empathy shes lost lots of jobs. My running joke with her is to dye her hair blonde then people will just think shes self centered.

You obviously have no idea what being a psychopath means. because my emotions do not work the same way as yours does not mean I have lost my ability to observe people.

This is how we learn to hide.

Originally posted by zbeliever
Has a Doctor diagnosed this?

Are you married and or do you have children?

yes, No, and No

reply to post by watchitburn


I have to agree with you on this point... the psychopath's I have met in my life have a clear vision on humanity.
It is the sociopath that is more harmful in my humble opinion.