Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by MrXYZ
I'm sure his (false) opinion isn't based on the FACT that his entire career was sponsored by GE and Norwegian's largest oil company

Climate deniers should be locked up as criminals if you ask me.

Ah, the perfect example of a religious fanatic.
Having no basis of truth, yet with all of the superiority of a highest authority,
condemn, judge, and lock away. Maybe maybe you would like those same people
who adhere to scientific principle to be burned at the stake?

They are flat out dangerous and unstable individuals willing to allow their political ambitions and hyperbole "to make unlivable" the only planet we have.

Strange, I would say that is the GW religious fanatic crowd to a T.
Need to look no further than the Al Gore himself the poster boy of Global Warming.

Gore Announces New Campaign and Worldwide Event to Re-energize Global Warming Hysteria

newsbus ters.org

Nobel laureate Al Gore must be noticing the public's continued lack of concern for his money making myth about carbon dioxide destroying the planet.

...He...has announced a new campaign and worldwide event to re-energize global warming hysteria:

The Climate Reality Project (formerly the Alliance for Climate Protection) announced a new global campaign
to broadcast the reality of the climate crisis and mobilize citizens to help solve it.

The campaign kicks off with 24 hour telethon style event, reminicent of traveling evangelists,
and the ressurection of Tent Revivals.

www.washingtontimes.com

Of course if we did look further, we would find....the the Chief Rabbinate of Isreal, The Palestine Court of Sharia Law, The WAQF, and leaders of all Christian Churches in Jerusalem all united in
agreeement, however, its not concerning religion, it is to unite for the cuase of Climate Change.

And not only Climate Change....but incontrovertible man made global warming!
Religious Nutters!

This council represents the highest religious authorities of the Holy Land: the Chief Rabbinate of Israel, the Palestinian Ministry of Religious Affairs (Waqf), the Palestinian Court of Sharia law and all leaders of Christian Churches in Jerusalem. The Council of Religious Institutions of the Holy Land in Jerusalem brings together the leaders of the three religions to jointly promote coexistence, to deal with extremism and find solutions to social problems.Holy Land Declaration On Climate Change

Since the failure at Copenhagen, the IPCC Scandals, the leaders of the religion of Climate Change have
fought hard to keep the "threat of climate change" as the New Terror.

Lest we forget

A high-ranking member of the U.N.'s Panel on Climate Change admits the group's primary goal is the redistribution of wealth and not environmental protection or saving the Earth The Climate Cash Cow

A Joint Declaration by Christians, Jews and Muslims is to be presented in Jerusalem on 25 July, in which religious leaders will be asked to get involved in the fight against climate change

The Joint Declaration is titled Holy Land Declaration On Climate Change

www.archive.org...

We must remember: Redistibution of the worlds weath is no small matter, and when the three religions join united this common cause only then can we see the size and scope of this conspiracy.

vaticaninsid er.lastampa.it

And lets not forget the mad scentists, taking bribes of billions in grant money from the likes
of Bill Gates.

GE does not even hold a candle to Gates when it comes to buying corruption.
Gates wants to spray chemicals into the atmosphere under the guise of Solar Radiation Management,
and Geoengineering.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by MaxBlack


Wow why havent I heard about you before, surely you must be famous as you are clearly some sort of super genius.
After all you can categorically state that all the thousands of scientist that have researched this subject are liars and frauds and that all their findings are rubbish, yet you dont even need to post any proof cause you are soo god damn great. And after all, those scientists have only spent their entire working lives studying and researching this subject so what do they know. But of course I forgot they are ALL sell out shills who are only interested in peddling lies to gain more money for themselves.

DISCLAIMER
Incase you are a citizen of the USA. The above statement is infact Sarcasm and should not be quoted as the authors point of view.

Originally posted by MaxBlack


Thanks for the thread and it did me good to see someone act out of conscious and what is right, for we need more of this type of scientist and not the type that can be bought for peanuts just so they can rubber stamp bogus data.

Max, Thanks for your comments, and a very well spoken post.

Like Giaever I am filled with disgust! Even after the failure of Copenhagen, and Climate Gate,
the religious nutters carry on with all of the lunacy of the Inquisiton.

Originally posted by spamfish
reply to post by MaxBlack

 

Wow why havent I heard about you before, surely you must be famous as you are clearly some sort of super genius.
After all you can categorically state that all the thousands of scientist that have researched this subject are liars and frauds and that all their findings are rubbish, yet you dont even need to post any proof cause you are soo god damn great. And after all, those scientists have only spent their entire working lives studying and researching this subject so what do they know. But of course I forgot they are ALL sell out shills who are only interested in peddling lies to gain more money for themselves.

DISCLAIMER
Incase you are a citizen of the USA. The above statement is infact Sarcasm and should not be quoted as the authors point of view.

All of the ClimateGate emails clearly showed your "thousands of scientists" to be - FRAUDS -.
Didn't you read their emails?
They cooked the numbers to give them the result that they wanted.
It's amazing what all the funding $$$ can do.
Do you want the funding to stop? Well then give us more - FEAR- !!!
They all belong in prison!

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by MaxBlack

 

Well said. They rubber stamped the Climate Change BS for 1 reason. - Funding -
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The good news is that the truth will be setting us all free.
I'm wondering how all this will look in the history books?

Chapter 1: How to create a HOAX.

Chapter 2: Attack those who bring forth the truth about the sun. Label them something catchy: Deniers!

Chapter 3: Use -FEAR- to keep the HOAX alive.

Chapter 4: Turn Global Warming into a liberal religion.

Great post, thanks Eurisko! You highlight one of the most important aspects of this HOAX,
and that is the FEAR they use to keep it alive!

reply to post by DragonTattooz


Enjoyed your comments, thanks much. Right on there about DuPont and Al Gore.
Amazing how some people are still falling for the left right Big Corp Big Oil, versus
The so called "puritans" of the Global Warming crowd.

Originally posted by peck420
Don't be so naive as to think that big oil has not hedged the bets heavily.

Just for the record.

Big Oil is a conglomerate of investors. Investors want money.

These investors are the largest funders (and patent holders) of 'green' technology (wind/solar/geothermal/etc.).

Climate change becomes big...they make money.

Climate chnage vanishes...they make money.

Either way...they make money.

Another fantastic post, and brilliant points! Bears repeating...some people just want
to hang on to the HOAX at all costs.

Cap and Trade, Carbon Tax...the Holy Grail of Global Warming.

reply to post by MrXYZ


And who makes money to "clean up" the environment? Look at all the "green" technologies that came out a few years ago. Most of them are now defunct or bankrupt.

Face it, the government gave out billions of dollars to cater to a few climate mongers that don't represent the people. If they did, then people would have spent the every $1+ more for the "green" products over the not so "green" products.

Fact of the matter is that CO2 is not an accurate measure for climate change. If it were, then there would have been no "little ice age", or any ice age for that matter. CO2 levels follow temperature change, it does not predict temperature change. Changes in temperature up to 4°C over 1,000 years is normal according to the ice core data.

reply to post by burntheships

Ah, the perfect example of a religious fanatic. Having no basis of truth, yet with all of the superiority of a highest authority, condemn, judge, and lock away. Maybe maybe you would like those same people who adhere to scientific principle to be burned at the stake?

I at least accept the limitations of what is possible to know and I can weigh the consequences either way.

I can weigh the damages that might possibly ensue and in fact appear to be taking place if you are mistaken, if you continue to ignore accepted science and follow advice provided by energy and fuel lobbyists.


There is no reverse on that tactical maneuver
and so if you are wrong we are stuck with the consequences of global destruction.

You are willing to make that bet. That's you.
I never believed in gambling my friend.
Gamblers lose as often as they win.

If I am wrong we are stuck with cleaner air and cooler temperatures since regardless of the cause - cyclical or human generated interior heat - we can remove the human effects and consequences to a large extent and make a significant difference NOW.

If you are wrong...bye bye EARTH.
Do the math there Einstein.

reply to post by Honor93


Thanks for your comments, and your posts throughout the thread,
great points you have made! Expecially this one:

Originally posted by Honor93
Big Oil doesn't even belong in this story ... that is my point.
why would big oil want to dis GW ??? it was their program to begin with and their propaganda you are buying.
big oil has no direct impact or influence on the exposure of the GW science fraud.
i'm guessing you're buying into it lock, stock and barrel with your last commentary ... what a shame.

Big Oil is just going to buy carbon credits on the Chicago Carbon Credit Exchange...

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by burntheships

 

Ah, the perfect example of a religious fanatic. Having no basis of truth, yet with all of the superiority of a highest authority, condemn, judge, and lock away. Maybe maybe you would like those same people who adhere to scientific principle to be burned at the stake?

I at least accept the limitations of what is possible to know and I can weigh the consequences either way.

I can weigh the damages that might possibly ensue and in fact appear to be taking place if you are mistaken, if you continue to ignore accepted science and follow advice provided by energy and fuel lobbyists.

You really need to do some research there my freind. You have bought into this HOAX lock stock
and barrell, you sure you dont have a Carbon Bible under your "sheeps" wool?

If you really believe, as in true believer of Incontrovertible GW... then your lost, your a lost sheep.
You do realize, as pointed out here many times, this is all a scam to make more money
for all of the big corporations, not just "Big Oil"...who will just buy Carbon Credits on The Chicago
Carbon Credit Exchange....

You really buying the load of B.S. that the green corporations are leading the way to solve
"Global Warming" ???

Originally posted by SilentNoise
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

And who makes money to "clean up" the environment? Look at all the "green" technologies that came out a few years ago. Most of them are now defunct or bankrupt.

Face it, the government gave out billions of dollars to cater to a few climate mongers that don't represent the people. If they did, then people would have spent the every $1+ more for the "green" products over the not so "green" products.

Fact of the matter is that CO2 is not an accurate measure for climate change. If it were, then there would have been no "little ice age", or any ice age for that matter. CO2 levels follow temperature change, it does not predict temperature change. Changes in temperature up to 4°C over 1,000 years is normal according to the ice core data.

Face it the government gave out money since it knows we cannot be slaves to the fuel companies that exist now and a cheaper cleaner source of energy is in everyone's best interest EXCEPT THE GAS, ELECTRIC AND OIL INDUSTRIES who are doing everything including manufacturing pseudo- science to keep us from finding it. There goes their enormous profits...they own the planet for all practical purposes... have it by the nuts.

Do you think they do not have that light bulb that burns forever?
Do you think they do not already HAVE the plans for that energy efficient car?

Do you see any inconsistency there?

Why are you here on a conspiracy website when you do not see how you are being taken for a ride here by oil backing Republicans? Clean air is a hoax somebody is trying to sell you eh? We are living in OPPOSITE WORLD. These "end times" are really something. I can see how they got the name.

You think this is all a lot of money leading to Al Gores pocketbook?
If you cut off your nose because you do not like it - you will bleed to death.
Just thought you should know.

reply to post by burntheships

You really need to do some research there my freind. You have bought into this HOAX lock stock and barrell, you sure you dont have a Carbon Bible under your "sheeps" wool?

burntheships...I think you are just out to burn. Period.

Call me a sheep. Time will tell and I don't have kids so I have no vested interest here that will take the brunt of it if I am wrong - I hope that you do.

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by SilentNoise
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

And who makes money to "clean up" the environment? Look at all the "green" technologies that came out a few years ago. Most of them are now defunct or bankrupt.

Face it, the government gave out billions of dollars to cater to a few climate mongers that don't represent the people. If they did, then people would have spent the every $1+ more for the "green" products over the not so "green" products.

Fact of the matter is that CO2 is not an accurate measure for climate change. If it were, then there would have been no "little ice age", or any ice age for that matter. CO2 levels follow temperature change, it does not predict temperature change. Changes in temperature up to 4°C over 1,000 years is normal according to the ice core data.

Face it the government gave out money since it knows we cannot be slaves to the fuel companies that exist now and a cheaper cleaner source of energy is in everyone's best interest EXCEPT THE GAS, ELECTRIC AND OIL INDUSTRIES who are doing everything including manufacturing pseudo- science to keep us from finding it. There goes their enormous profits...they own the planet for all practical purposes... have it by the nuts.

Do you think they do not have that light bulb that burns forever?
Do you think they do not already HAVE the plans for that energy efficient car?

Do you see any inconsistency there?

First, the government gave out money to its favorite pet monster, the mulit-billion dollar industry
of Global Warming. At least two posts in this thread demonstrate Government money going
to sham "green programs". And big money...the big money is in the tax dollars to be raked in
by Carbon Tax, and Cap and Trade.

The Government, and the Big Corps are never going to promote free energy, they would
be out of business both of them.

Yes, the old bulbs did burn for nearly forever. THE OLD INCANDESENT BULBS that have now been
banned in favor of the toxic CF! And why do we have compact CF bulbs?

Thats right, GLOBAL WARMING.

And yes, that energy efficient car is out there, so why is it not in the forfront?
NO instead we have corn being GMO bred for ethanal, and the Government subsidies!!!

Why are you here on a conspiracy website when you do not see how you are being taken for a ride here by oil backing Republicans? Clean air is a hoax somebody is trying to sell you eh? We are living in OPPOSITE WORLD. These "end times" are really something. I can see how they got the name.

Yes, this is a conspiracy site, and this is oe of the biggest conspiracies of all time, in fact, its lookin
like it will be in the top 5, maybe even first place. When you have all three religions banned together,
with the most crooked politicians on the face of the earth, in bed with The United Nations,
you should realize what is going down! They are going to bring about the End Times alright.

But for you to point a finger at the Republicans for this, well that is just plain political madness.
The Dems and the Repubs are all equally at fault, and so are all of the Governments,
and the reason is they are all in for the ride. They want the HOLY GRAIL.
Carbon Tax, and Cap and Trade, the Holy Grail of the Global Warming HOAX.

You think this is all a lot of money leading to Al Gores pocketbook?

Ha, you have got to be kidding me. YES.

Why are all your arguements centered on Al Gore?
You are aware that global warming was considered an issue LONG before Gore got his hands on it. Im talking way back in the 70's, scientists were starting to worry about climate and the only people who seemed to care about it were hippy environmental types who obviously are about as far from the idea of government n energy backed shills as you can get.

As ive said before, corrupt sources may well be trying to exploit the climate change issue to make money off of our fear but that is an different issue to what is the cause of climate change.
Yet the only evidence I ever hear you put forwards is Climate chamge is all a hoax because big businesses and governments are making money from its findings.
Thats like saying the makers of umberellas are behind rain storms because they make money from it. Do you realise how obsurd that is?

You also keep trying to associate man made climate change supporters with religious fanatics when it is clearly the oposite. Man made CC supporters base there ideas on the scientific method and the findings of thousands of world class scientists from around the world who;s work is firmly rooted in empirical science and results. Whereas you hoax claimers are clearly the crazy religious type nuts, you dont follow logic or scientific findings because it doesnt suit your theories so instead you just try and shout your ideas louder and more vehemently than others to make up for your lack of proof, and what proof you do claim is just opinion of people who are exploiting this man made disaster and not actual proof of the cause at all.
I am very tempted to say that i suspect a large amount of this anti man made CC noise is made from corporate agents with a clear agenda of protecting theior own interests, but of course if I did that I would just be acting like you nay sayers and just spouting opinion instead of fact.

i used to believe in this stuff until climate-gate. obviously 98% of the scientists agree, they want the funding! 90% of Americans are employed and a lot, maybe most of them hate their jobs but they still pretend every day that it's a challenge they enjoy and even agree to "loyalty time" (unpaid overtime) for the good of the corporation. they can't just walk away from their jobs because they will lose their income, just like those scientists can't go against the mainstream because they would be forced out of their jobs...

unfortunately it's human nature to believe in things whether it's the man in the sky or a fuzzy theory. climate isn't like quantum physics, where you have pretty exact laws that tell you what to expect and each experiment will yield the same results for the same conditions (that's why TVs, computers and most other things work because the science behind them is indeed solid). climate on the other side is chaos and as such it's easy to manipulate results into whatever is convenient for those who are in charge of said manipulation!

Al gore is a politician, he has no degree in climate science. all he wants is to sell his ideas, along with all other politicians who want to tax our breathing and make every human being a slave to the system. sure there are people who honestly believe in this stuff, like i used to, but they will wake up in a few decades when nothing will happen and life will go on.

of course by then there will be some other scarecrow to brainwash us into giving up our money and liberties to corporations and politicians... just one example i can see: wait until we get closer to 10 billion humans on the planet. there will be all sorts of calls to force sterilize people and what not, instead of increasing women's education and living standards! that's because it's proven that educated women have less children.

EDIT to add - i do believe that climate changes in time, but a few hundred years is really no way of determining what is "normal" and what is warmer or cooler. there have been ice ages and heat waves even in the last 1000 years, so you can't compare that with the overall climate over billions of years! plus, there's a big difference between "climate" and the weather within a short period of time such as one summer or one year.

reply to post by spamfish


Sigh*. All of my arguments center around Al Gore?
He is not even in the OP, or for that matter, the main jist of the linked threads in the OP.

He was brought into the argument as he is The Global Warming Poster Boy.
Anyone who knows anything about "Climatetology" knows that.

Certainly he is part of the HOAX. As to the religions, well that was linked in the OP also,
and I have already addressed that at lenth in another post.

I might add it the churches have thier way, they will be passing the plate for the carbon taxz.
"Be a good little sheep, ride your bike and give from the bottom of your pockets for
the cause of "Global Warming". I am going to guess you did not even read the linked thread
in the OP, The Holy Land, the ecological turning point of the three religions. If you had read that,
or have read that you would know that the Global Warming nutters have now turned to
the churches to lead the way in Fear inducing gobblygook.

They are actually bringing God into the climate debate, and hoping...now that
Copenhagen is gone ( an epic fail! ) to galvanize people through thier "faith"

As for the idea that Climate Gate had nothing to do with factual scientific data...
that is clearly wrong. Climate Gate was the discovery of falsied scientific data,
collusion of corrupt "climatologists" on the dole...taking grant money.

Why did they need to fake data if Climate Change (which is real, and a naturally occuring
fact of the Earth and its cycles, along with Sun cylcles, etc) facts prove Global Warming?

reply to post by DarkSecret


When the truth is told Al Gore will have to give away his ill-gotten gains.
His family will have to bear the burden of blame also.
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The liberals are running away from the science and just trying to make a political argument.
That is their strategy 2.0.
It will also fail.

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by burntheships

 

Ah, the perfect example of a religious fanatic. Having no basis of truth, yet with all of the superiority of a highest authority, condemn, judge, and lock away. Maybe maybe you would like those same people who adhere to scientific principle to be burned at the stake?

I at least accept the limitations of what is possible to know and I can weigh the consequences either way.

I can weigh the damages that might possibly ensue and in fact appear to be taking place if you are mistaken, if you continue to ignore accepted science and follow advice provided by energy and fuel lobbyists.

You really need to do some research there my freind. You have bought into this HOAX lock stock
and barrell, you sure you dont have a Carbon Bible under your "sheeps" wool?

If you really believe, as in true believer of Incontrovertible GW... then your lost, your a lost sheep.
You do realize, as pointed out here many times, this is all a scam to make more money
for all of the big corporations, not just "Big Oil"...who will just buy Carbon Credits on The Chicago
Carbon Credit Exchange....

You really buying the load of B.S. that the green corporations are leading the way to solve
"Global Warming" ???

It's actually worse than that IMO. The whole AGW alarm is directing resources and attention AWAY from environmental issues.

They've got everyone so fixated on good ole CO2, the real issues are being forced into the back seat (if they even get as much seat space as that!)

Where do you hear AGW alarmists focusing on river pollution, deforestation, toxic debt instruments, invented global conflict, desertification, soil mineral depletion, top soil erosion, chemical toxification of food, water and soil, culling of indigenous populations disguised as vaccine programs, financially motivated species elimination, frankenstein (GMO) foods and crops, THE MONETARY SYSTEM!

No, it's all CO2 and warmer weather!

New Covenant wants what most of us want, a clean and healthy environment for ourselves and our children. He thinks the facts are in and reducing CO2 emissions will achieve this (I'm assuming), whereas others don't buy that at all.

Me, I have a greenhouse in my garden. The warmer temps make the plants grow faster and stronger. If I added a CO2 source in there, they would grow even better!

I have to play devil's advocate here. First, I am all for green alternatives for producing power as long as it makes sense, I also believe we're being lied to about climate change , HOWEVER (and trust me I hate to admit this) I think there be a beneficial side affect.

I think (whether fear about climate change is being artificially created or not) that the fear of global warming has only sped our progress towards better alternatives. I'm not saying it's solely responsible, but hypothetically speaking, if everyone thought that gasoline and coal were perfectly safe / non-polluting ways of generating power, then I think there would be much less of a sense or urgency to create alternatives. Look at what the $4.00+ per gallon gas prices did for the electric car - I see much more of them on the road now.

My point is, although it's possible we're being lied to I think it provides motivation to change. Granted this should not be necessary but when you take human nature into consideration...

Thoughts?