4th grade 9/11 history lesson

My 9 year old daughter came home from school today...

"Mom we learnt about 9/11...We watched a move.It happened Sept second 2001"
"I told my teacher you were pregnant with me"

"Honey, you mean Sept 11, don't you."

"Mom the 11 stands for the towers.We saw it on some guys shirt in the video."

"Well it also stands for the date it happened."

"OOOOH! Ya some guy with a L name was in charge of those guys in the plane."

"You mean Bin Ladden."

"Ya! that's him."


She seemed really impressed I knew the "guys" name.Good thing she didn't say the guys name that was in charge of the men crashing into the towers , starts with a "B" because Bin Laddens name would not have been what I said...My answer would have reflected who I feel was behind it....I also would have had a greater respect for our school system....Anyways, for now the offical story is all she needs to understand...
And that is how Our history is written .....One offical story at a time..

So...what did she learn? I missed that part.

Tragic how they'll brainwash the children to believe anything. Hopefully they drown the propaganda out with enough video games Or they can actually learn the truth.

reply to post by filosophia


Remember, it is always the conquerors who write the history books and give their version of things.

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That's exactly my point....That our history has been written by what they want you to believe...She wasn't even born yet...She doesn't really understand the full impact that day had on our country...and she never will...She will believe the story that is told to her at school.Years from now so will her children, and so on and so on.......Only the ones that lived in that time will know the story that they dish out has alot of unanwsered questions

My daughter was only three at the time,but she knows the truth! I have also taken her out of the system so , she does not have to re-learn history like I have had to do! Do you plan to tell her the truth or tow the line?

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That's exactly my point....That our history has been written by what they want you to believe

How much history about the WW1 and WW2 did I learn in school that was false?.. my guess is much of it...after researching and learning more about how these certain groups have been operating for literally thousands of years.

We're forced to pay taxes to an educational system that brainwashes our children...and I think those that decide to choose homeschooling..still have certain examinations that they must write , in order to prove they have credibly understood what the curriculum is for that age group. I'm assuming this includes history.

Would be curious to find out if any parents here home school their kids.. and when they get to high school level history... if they disagree with what the curriculum says....whether they fail or pass.

I thought the point was your kid didnt learn sh*t about modern history, well she turned out just as they wanted.

reply to post by beammeup


To answer your question.
First I must ask you one?
Were you raised by a unusual family or like most of the other kids?
Let me tell you it does you no good as a child with this kinda information other then ostracize them...
I will tell her that other people,her mother included, think things happened differently.I will explain this information when she is old enough not to go to school and tell what open minded. out of the box people thing happened....

My daughter was 12 when it happened, although she was interested in what had happened I drove her nuts constantly watching it, a few months after she heard talk at school about how some of the kids parents did'nt think the story behind it was somewhat truthful, she asked me if I knew the truth, when I told her the gruelling obsessive rituals in what what entails getting to the truth sometimes, she looked at me like I had 2 heads, her prompt reply was "nevermind, I"ll wait until I get older and figure it out for myself". I wished her luck and gave her a kiss. She is now in her third year of university and knows more about the subject than I, at dinner one night she told me the truth still alluded her, I wished her luck and gave her a kiss.

All history is taught with bias... 9/11 is nothing new.
Throughout history the victors in war were generally the ones who wrote what happened.

Originally posted by beammeup
My daughter was only three at the time,but she knows the truth! I have also taken her out of the system so , she does not have to re-learn history like I have had to do! Do you plan to tell her the truth or tow the line?

So you have taken her out of school so you can indoctrinate her with what YOU think is correct? Thats one step away from some crazy religious school lol. I really hope you teach her both sides of the story so she can make her own mind up... otherwise you are no better than the people that write the syllabus.

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I appreciate your post,you sound like a very intelligent mother....

Originally posted by zbeliever
reply to post by filosophia

 

That's exactly my point....That our history has been written by what they want you to believe...She wasn't even born yet...She doesn't really understand the full impact that day had on our country...and she never will...She will believe the story that is told to her at school.Years from now so will her children, and so on and so on.......Only the ones that lived in that time will know the story that they dish out has alot of unanwsered questions

Oh I think generations will be left in the dark, but eventually they will wise up to the fact that it was all a lie. No one alive lived through the civil war but people are starting to realize there was more to it than just a fight for slavery.

Originally posted by Noviz
All history is taught with bias... 9/11 is nothing new.
Throughout history the victors in war were generally the ones who wrote what happened.

Originally posted by beammeup
My daughter was only three at the time,but she knows the truth! I have also taken her out of the system so , she does not have to re-learn history like I have had to do! Do you plan to tell her the truth or tow the line?

So you have taken her out of school so you can indoctrinate her with what YOU think is correct? Thats one step away from some crazy religious school lol. I really hope you teach her both sides of the story so she can make her own mind up... otherwise you are no better than the people that write the syllabus.

edit on 12-9-2011 by Noviz because: (no reason given)

It seems like you don't like home school. Not every home school family is crazy religious, that just shows your bias. You hope that a parent you've never met teaches her daughter you've never met and have no say in how she is raised, to teach both sides of the story? Sure, how can you know it was a lie, unless you also look at the "official story." But what about prostitution, drug use, sex, will you teach them both sides to that? Will you teach them the positive side of being a wreck-loose? Yeah, I didn't think so. So in other words you can't always be neutral when it comes to some issues. If you don't take a stand, how are you any different from, say, the Nazis? Do you teach your children the positive side of the Nazis? If not, aren't you "no better than the people that write the syllabus?" There has to be some things you take a stand on. If your child thinks differently than that is their decision, but there's no reason why someone should not have views or opinions.

Originally posted by filosophia

Originally posted by Noviz
All history is taught with bias... 9/11 is nothing new.
Throughout history the victors in war were generally the ones who wrote what happened.

Originally posted by beammeup
My daughter was only three at the time,but she knows the truth! I have also taken her out of the system so , she does not have to re-learn history like I have had to do! Do you plan to tell her the truth or tow the line?

So you have taken her out of school so you can indoctrinate her with what YOU think is correct? Thats one step away from some crazy religious school lol. I really hope you teach her both sides of the story so she can make her own mind up... otherwise you are no better than the people that write the syllabus.

edit on 12-9-2011 by Noviz because: (no reason given)

It seems like you don't like home school. Not every home school family is crazy religious, that just shows your bias. You hope that a parent you've never met teaches her daughter you've never met and have no say in how she is raised, to teach both sides of the story? Sure, how can you know it was a lie, unless you also look at the "official story." But what about prostitution, drug use, sex, will you teach them both sides to that? Will you teach them the positive side of being a wreck-loose? Yeah, I didn't think so. So in other words you can't always be neutral when it comes to some issues. If you don't take a stand, how are you any different from, say, the Nazis? Do you teach your children the positive side of the Nazis? If not, aren't you "no better than the people that write the syllabus?" There has to be some things you take a stand on. If your child thinks differently than that is their decision, but there's no reason why someone should not have views or opinions.

edit on 12-9-2011 by filosophia because: (no reason given)

For a start you actually need to read what I wrote... I never even said that home school families were crazy religious... I was giving an example of what his/her home schooling sounded like.
And I'm all for home schooling. I think its very refreshing if done correctly. However there are the obvious downsides like your child not experiencing friendship and communication with other children which can lead to obvious social issues in the future.

No you can't be neutral on everything I never said you could. But with an event like 9/11 you have to show both sides of the story to even get any context. What my worry is that this person doesn't even bother talking about the official story and just tells his/her kid that its all an inside job... that would be exactly what the schools are doing but the opposite way around which is no better for the child. If you truely want your child to be of a free mind then you have to atleast teach them the concept that there maybe more to something than meets the eye or more than one side to a story.

I am proud to say one day I will allow my daughter to better understand my views .... At 9 years old though it is not time to understand or believe we live in a false community...She needs to feel safe and protected in her homeland.For now she needs to be a Kid...

I was the kid that went to school and talked about Edward Cayce and Carlso Casanda...Things I heard my fathers friends speak of....Do you think that made me real popular?

History = His-Story

there are no coincidences right scalar reality,

If anyone really cared about their kids education they would pull the kid out of school and home school. But people make excuses. " i don't have time for that, I'm not smart enough, Are you kidding! Take 12 years of my life to school my kid?, etc"

i say quit your job if you have to for 12 years and have just one parent work to make ends meet. Your child will be Much better off in the long run and so will your family for the time you spent together.

" Can't do that, My kid needs SOCIAL skills, My Kid needs the Prom and other boy/girl interaction" You can still do that with home schooling silly parents.Be creative. get your kid involved with other activities kids do together for fun besides school.

I'm Lucky, I have no kids, can't have em cant afford to adopt and frankly, don't want em but if i had one or two I'd home school. I encourage everyone to read a book called "Lies my Teacher Told Me" by James W. Lowen. Google it for his website. It details tons of historical events the schools out right Lie about in the classes. Scared the willies out of me.

This American school system is corrupt near to being Evil with the crap they push on your kid and you the parent most of the time have No Clue what they are learning. Do you care? One example like the one above may not phase you, but consider, a whole 12 years of brainwashing turning your kid into a corporate slave to work a JOB all their life and believe what the powers that be deem is correct for your child is the same as kidnapping and brainwashing your kid out from under you. That's why 12 years later parents don't know their kids anymore. Don't believe me? Keep your kid in public school and think of this post at graduation time.

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Homeschooling certainly has its advantages as do the public and private school system, its called balance. It is first and foremost the parents who should provide this, homeschooling isn't just between 9 and 3 it is all the other hours that we spend with our children combined with the hours they do spend in an alternative environment ie (school) .People should never underestimate their children or any child, they still have that sweet inevitable sense of wonder that carries them into their adult years, giving them the ability to ponder, question, query, and decide for themselves what they believe. On another note most of us parents probably don't have the funds to not work and provide homeschooling, I was a single mom raising my daughter and trust me there were plenty of times I didn't agree with some of the policies at her school, so I did what any responsible parent would do... I said something, and it paid off, my daughter who as I mentioned is in university and she doesn't always agree with their policies, so guess what... she said something!

so nobody has ever been brought to trial and convicted of any crimes relating to a 9/11 conspiracy, and you expect it to be taught in schools as part of the curriculum and as part of text books ?

fascinating

please elaborate

Originally posted by Noviz
All history is taught with bias... 9/11 is nothing new.
Throughout history the victors in war were generally the ones who wrote what happened.

Originally posted by beammeup
My daughter was only three at the time,but she knows the truth! I have also taken her out of the system so , she does not have to re-learn history like I have had to do! Do you plan to tell her the truth or tow the line?

So you have taken her out of school so you can indoctrinate her with what YOU think is correct? Thats one step away from some crazy religious school lol. I really hope you teach her both sides of the story so she can make her own mind up... otherwise you are no better than the people that write the syllabus.

edit on 12-9-2011 by Noviz because: (no reason given)

i'm sorry, i have to call BS......i'm sick and tired of all this stupid politcally correct crap if there is a piece of sh3t on the ground and someone thinks the damn thing is green when it's brown, should i teach a child both perspectives????????? i don't think so....if i do, i'll tell that child, "and there's some dummasses out there that think it's green, but don't worry about them, you'll run across them but just feel sorry for them honey"