New nasa footage shows Apollo landings evidence.

reply to post by Illustronic

but like I said, it carried at least 200% of the mission required fuel.

The PDF page 2, fig 7 doesn't seem to agree with that..
Seems there was little to spare..

I'm not sure though how much fuel was used in this unscheduled maneuver into a new elliptical orbit and to keep it there for 30 days, then return to normal orbit..

These photos are too small to really "prove" anything, and their source is highly questionable, and has a history of faking, and altering, and supressing media.

I do wish an Earthbound telescope could see the moon land well, but such doesn't exist(as far as I know).

I believe we went(more times than we are told), but I think about all the footage, film, etc, was staged.

I have read the USSR did not have the ability to monitor the US missions.

Apollo was real along with all the other apollo missions, they stopped broadcasting publicly after the landing with Neil amstrong and them guys because they saw an ufo in a crater, there has been Apollo 18, 19 and 20.

reply to post by sawu101


Based on what? A Saturn V rocket isn't like taking off in a small Cessna, it's not something you can easily hide, it's a bloody great big rocket, makes a hell of a lot of noise, takes up a lot of space, can only be launched from specialised facilities, and needed a massive amout of support personnel to get one ready and launched. People would have noticed Saturn V rockets taking off and question would have been asked!

While I can believe a lot of conspiracy theories have some credence, and some I believe are not even conspiracies but proven fact, I find the idea of there having been Apollo 18, 19, and 20 you're going to have to stump up some decent proof on Saturn V launches that were hidden and a lot more to go with it.

Originally posted by Kemal
What if they have indeed been there but stumbled upon something we better should not know?

What also wonders me is this, we have quite good telescopes that can take awesome pictures of nearby galaxies etc. Then why can't we get some close up images of the Moon, Mars etc.?

BA BA BA BINGO


once again, look at the pics in this video. look how far away

they have the tech to read license plates from satellites and telescope tech to see millions of miles away..but the crappy stupid MOON above this planet...always distant and grainy video and pics where its obviously airbrushed half the time

Originally posted by Rob37n
People would have noticed Saturn V rockets taking off and question would have been asked!

Maybe.

But since we know the government doesn't lie, you'd have to accept their word when they told you the rocket you MISTAKENLY THINK you heard on that foggy morning was not a Saturn V.

reply to post by syrinx high priest


Your kidding right? the ITN Video doesnt prove nor prove it was the moon lander and dont even thinnk or ask that you can the footprints in that video

reply to post by Exuberant1


Except they wouldn't take off in foggy weather, they needed clear skies and calm weather. These weren't the CGI ships you see in sci-fi shows they were essential giant controlled bombs taking off, there was little margin of error and the chances of one of these rockets going KABOOM was quite large, why do you think rocket engineers cheer every time they launch a rocket successfully?

The sound of a Saturn V would blow out microphones at a close distant, the sound was epic, you couldn't hide one or pretend it was thunder, there was no sound on earth like it!

If you're so convinced that extra Saturn V's were launched tell us where and when.

Originally posted by Rob37n

If you're so convinced that extra Saturn V's were launched tell us where and when.

Why would you ask someone to answer a question that would require them to make use of classified or restricted knowledge?

I can see you aren't an American. Maybe that is why you would risk such a question; you simply don't care.

reply to post by Exuberant1


I'm sorry, but you couldn't hide the launch of a Saturn V if you tried. Not now, not ever, as for hiding behind it would have been a classified operation is a bit daft when on a conspiracy website. There is no evidence whatsoever for the additional launches claimed. It's hard enough trying to uncover the genuine conspiracies without people muddying the waters with made up stories.

Boy, it sure is strange how many 'The moon landings are real!' threads popped up since tha thread asking for high def images of any landing sites or artifacts left on the moon. I haue been keeping a close eye on them and I think this thread is no.5 since the thread last week. Either ATS is filled to the brim with people very passionate about the Apollo missions or the disinfo maching is working on overdrive... Just saying...


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Originally posted by Rob37n
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

I'm sorry, but you couldn't hide the launch of a Saturn V if you tried. Not now, not ever, as for hiding behind it would have been a classified operation is a bit daft when on a conspiracy website. .

Being on ATS does not give one the right to violate national security and divulge information which would only have been gleaned from a classified source.

The answer to your earlier question would necessarily be illegal should it be provided.

And the fact that it was provided on a conspiracy site would not be any measure of protection against prosecution.

reply to post by Exuberant1


What utter rubbish! You are now saying there were secret launches of Saturn V rockets, but you can't prove it because that would violate national security?

Here's one for you, there is a place in Nevada called Area 51 where they test new developments in aviation, oops, sorry just violated National Security. At nuclear power plants they handle radioactive material such as Uranium and Plutonium from which you can make nuclear devices, oops done it again. There is a plane called the B2 Stealth Bomber, and there is a facility in North Carolina where they maintain them, oops yet another breach of security.

Who are you kidding? You're attempting to make a circular argument which can't be proved or disproved. There have been endless numbers of Shuttle launches on sensitive and secret missions, but the take-off of the Shuttles was big news, as guess what, it's hard to hide the launch of a Shuttle. The same would apply to a Saturn V which was a damned sight more noticeable than a Shuttle launch!

Originally posted by Rob37n
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

What utter rubbish! You are now saying there were secret launches of Saturn V rockets, but you can't prove it because that would violate national security?

I think that is called a 'strawman argument'.

It is where you say I said something I didn't say then say that thing you said I said is rubbish, etc. and so forth and so on.

reply to post by Exuberant1


Says the guy who spends his time reading illegally released secret government cables...

If you're so worried about the law and protecting National Security you probably shouldn't be making threads about red mercury, NASA cover ups and UFO's.

reply to post by backinblack


I read it on one of the other links, much more current that the PDF statement of capability.

reply to post by Exuberant1


Your other big problem with Apollo 18, 19, and 20, who built them, where were they built? The Saturn V rocket weighed in at 3000 metric tons fully loaded, that is a non-trivial piece of kit. You couldn't move one without the odd person noticing, you couldn't erect one without the odd person saying "oh look, a Saturn V rocket!", it was one of the 20th Century's most iconic images, people were fascinated by the Apollo programme.

Of those built most were used, of the two not used they are on static display at different sites. So who built, who paid for, and where were they launched from? Put up some evidence, give us a snippet of proof, and as you've disclosed other sensitive material previously on other threads this shouldn't be a problem for you. Failing that stop trolling.

As an aside I watched Apollo 18 last night, which I really enjoyed. But, it's a fictional story guys!

Apollo 18 did fly in July of 1975, but the official mission was called Apollo Soyuz Test Project, It baffles me so many people don't remember that. Another Saturn V was planned as the Skylab Rescue Mission but it was eventually cancelled even after the vehicle was assembled and brought to the launch pad. Other constructed components of Saturn Vs were not assembled or fueled.

reply to post by slowboy51


I think the Apollo missions were unmanned LM landings, the LMs toting military equipment.

reply to post by cannotfoolme


Please elaborate.