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Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by WhiteHat
I guess you didn't read the post right above yours.
Originally posted by WhiteHat
Interesting comment from the article:
Makes no difference either way if they did land on the moon or they didn't as this all happened so long ago, however, one thing does spring to mind, where are the lunar rovers? They were supossedly left behind so shouldn't they be visible?
I would love to find out the answer too.
Originally posted by Brother Stormhammer
reply to post by DEV1L79
I can't help but be amused when something like this happens. The question is asked "Why can't we do *insert some activity here*?". A few posts later, someone provides a concise, scientific explanation (with references) of why we can't do whatever-it-was, and the near-immediate response is "That sounds like a bunch of techno-babble! It doesn't prove anything!".
The motto of ATS is "Deny Ignorance". When someone tries to provide you with facts, even if you don't agree with them, you might at least *consider* them. I get the really sinking feeling that most of the "We didn't go to the Moon" crowd aren't interested in facts, or in science, and wouldn't accept *any* form of proof. Any photograph will be a shop-job, any film will be the creation of a studio, any physical items will be created props, and any personal testimony will be the result of bribes and coercion.
If you want to honestly discuss whether or not we went to the Moon, then we need to set a few conditions for the debate/discussion. The first and most important is to fix the goalposts. If you want photos, and someone provides photos that fit your criteria, don't then move the goalposts and demand color photos, or video...only to move the goal once more when whatever you requested is provided. A close second to that would be to accept that some things simply are not possible...and failure to do the impossible does not, in itself, constitute proof for either side of an argument. If I sound a bit exasperated, it's because the whole Hubble-seeing-the-lunar-landing-site issue comes up with astounding regularity, and has been covered in depth not only on ATS, but on several other web sites. Do we really need to go through yet another iteration of Introduction to Optics - 201? I took that course twenty years ago in college, and don't really care to sit through it again.
Each discrepancy may be able to be individually explained away one by one by scientific facts and "debunked" as people like to say, but if you add everything together all the different things and put it into one big fact can there really be that many discrepancies in one moon mission, if you look at it like a crime scene, we have means, motive, opportunity, and many facts and it certainly fits their M.O
I was referring to them faking it, as in the crime scene, was it a crime if they did fake it I'm not sure if it would be hmm I will have to look into that, would faking a moon landing be a crime?
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by DEV1L79
Each discrepancy may be able to be individually explained away one by one by scientific facts and "debunked" as people like to say, but if you add everything together all the different things and put it into one big fact can there really be that many discrepancies in one moon mission, if you look at it like a crime scene, we have means, motive, opportunity, and many facts and it certainly fits their M.O
Correct, in a way. If landing on the Moon were a crime,NASA would certainly be found guilty. NASA had the means to land men on the Moon, they had the motive to land men on the Moon, they had the opportunity to land men on the Moon. No question, building rockets and sending people into space is NASA's M.O. I don't see the point in your trying to get them off on technicalities.
I was referring to them faking it, as in the crime scene, was it a crime if they did fake it I'm not sure if it would be hmm I will have to look into that, would faking a moon landing be a crime?
you obviously don't know much on the subject, as there is a lot of video evidence, also scientific evidence.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by DEV1L79
I was referring to them faking it, as in the crime scene, was it a crime if they did fake it I'm not sure if it would be hmm I will have to look into that, would faking a moon landing be a crime?
If it were, they would be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Where's your evidence?