Whats with these arrogant people who think aliens are demons?

Originally posted by annella
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

Really need a 'shaking head in disbelief' smiley here. Truly.

So this is the man you are on about huh?

Parsons had always been interested in occultism, but his path to notoriety really started in 1941, when he joined the California-based Agape lodge of Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis. Parsons threw himself into the Eastern-inspired mysticism and hormonally inspired sex magic of Thelema, the religion Crowley had either devised or channeled from beyond, depending on your point of view.

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Another sociopath and sex addict. Nothing like getting it for free and on tap.
The fact that you people ( ETs are demons) have to resort to mentioning/quoting these kinds of poor excuses for humanity is rather sick.
There is absolutely NO PROOF that Crowley and his cohorts summoned the devil, cavorted with demons, etc. A wee piece from the screeds Crowley wrote you have all leapt onto. Nothing more than a coincidence.

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ETA: Ooops, forgot something important. Seems your rocket scientist was a mate of Ron Hubbard. Figures.

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No proof that anyone has seen an alien(demons), just stories as well. Most support for Aliens(demons) comes from crappy people as well.

stop feeding into this no one wins let it go. do you like getting trolled.

For anyone who cares enough to watch a very long interview, this guy Roger Morneau claims he was in a secret society of spirit worshippers. Towards the end he even admits what many other defectors of secret societies have admitted: that there are no aliens here but there is a plan to stage a false flag alien event as a last resort to setup a communist world government.

www.youtube.com...

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I honestly don't believe that anyone here is "trolling."

In case you couldn't tell, we are having a debate about space aliens vs. extradimensional beings.

Originally posted by Diplomat
reply to post by yaluk

 

I honestly don't believe that anyone here is "trolling."

In case you couldn't tell, we are having a debate about space aliens vs. extradimensional beings.

yeah well that one is similar to this one. I mean demons would fall into extradimensional beings... not really another world.

If demons did exist in what category would the fall into.. ET or ED??

the only reason i say it is trolling on that last post is because there is nothing new but rehashed stuff and people keep egging it on.

Originally posted by annella
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

Really need a 'shaking head in disbelief' smiley here. Truly.

So this is the man you are on about huh?

Parsons had always been interested in occultism, but his path to notoriety really started in 1941, when he joined the California-based Agape lodge of Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis. Parsons threw himself into the Eastern-inspired mysticism and hormonally inspired sex magic of Thelema, the religion Crowley had either devised or channeled from beyond, depending on your point of view.

SOURCE

Another sociopath and sex addict. Nothing like getting it for free and on tap.
The fact that you people ( ETs are demons) have to resort to mentioning/quoting these kinds of poor excuses for humanity is rather sick.
There is absolutely NO PROOF that Crowley and his cohorts summoned the devil, cavorted with demons, etc. A wee piece from the screeds Crowley wrote you have all leapt onto. Nothing more than a coincidence.

edit on 7-9-2011 by annella because: (no reason given)

ETA: Ooops, forgot something important. Seems your rocket scientist was a mate of Ron Hubbard. Figures.

edit on 7-9-2011 by annella because: (no reason given)

If a person thinks about it....the whole religious construct of an existing DEVIL...is mired in contradiction. The Devil is often purported to be the sway of Mandkinds ability to be pure. When a person had done wrong...it is written that the Devil was in them or controlled them.

This of course goes against most religions belief in FREEWILL. How is it that the Devil can be responsible for a persons actions if that person has freewill? If FREEWILL allows a person to be solely responsible for their actions then would not the DEVIL be doing a service to GOD in punishing the SINNER?

The Religious never have a viable response to this. Split Infinity

Originally posted by yaluk

Originally posted by Diplomat
reply to post by yaluk

 

I honestly don't believe that anyone here is "trolling."

In case you couldn't tell, we are having a debate about space aliens vs. extradimensional beings.

yeah well that one is similar to this one. I mean demons would fall into extradimensional beings... not really another world.

If demons did exist in what category would the fall into.. ET or ED??

This should be pretty simple stuff...

"Space Aliens" are actual physical beings like ourselves who live on other planets in our same 3d Universe.

"Extradimensional beings" are not physical creatures that evolved on some planet somewhere, they exist right here with us, we simply cannot perceive them because human beings can only see like 5% of all light spectrums to begin with.

Last night I googled "Magick Forum" and read posts on a few different forums for hours....

What I gathered from these people who do ceromonial magick and evoke/invoke demons, is that "Satan" aka the Devil is not even real... but Lucifer, Azazel, Astaroth, etc (the list goes on forever) are actual entities that they conjure/summon/whatever.

So while these extradimensional entities might exist, I am starting to believe that the whole "Satan" story is just that, a story.

On the other hand, if this "Satan" is in fact real, then I would think he would fall under the same categories as demons: an extradimensional entity.

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by yaluk

Originally posted by Diplomat
reply to post by yaluk

 

I honestly don't believe that anyone here is "trolling."

In case you couldn't tell, we are having a debate about space aliens vs. extradimensional beings.

yeah well that one is similar to this one. I mean demons would fall into extradimensional beings... not really another world.

If demons did exist in what category would the fall into.. ET or ED??

This should be pretty simple stuff...

"Space Aliens" are actual physical beings like ourselves who live on other planets in our same 3d Universe.

"Extradimensional beings" are not physical creatures that evolved on some planet somewhere, they exist right here with us, we simply cannot perceive them because human beings can only see like 5% of all light spectrums to begin with.

OK...you started well but then you wrote the perception of light thing. I can't see wind but I know it is their when it is windy. PLEASE....use the term....alternate reality....instead of INTERDIMENTIONAL. For GOD sakes...when an apple falls to the ground....it is litterally being transported INTERDIMENTIONALLY! Gravity itself is an interdimentional effect. You guy's are killing me! Too much Sci-Fi shows. Split Infinity

Originally posted by Diplomat
Last night I googled "Magick Forum" and read posts on a few different forums for hours....

What I gathered from these people who do ceromonial magick and evoke/invoke demons, is that "Satan" aka the Devil is not even real... but Lucifer, Azazel, Astaroth, etc (the list goes on forever) are actual entities that they conjure/summon/whatever.

So while these extradimensional entities might exist, I am starting to believe that the whole "Satan" story is just that, a story.

On the other hand, if this "Satan" is in fact real, then I would think he would fall under the same categories as demons: an extradimensional entity.

Satan is Lucifer rere

reply to post by SplitInfinity


The devil does not have the authority to punish humans for sin, only God is righteous and holy enough to judge. and i think your forgetting it was him who tempted Adam and Eve to commit sin in the first place. No one is putting the blame of sin onto him, it was man's rebellion against God that led to sin and that's why we're a fallen race that need's a savior.

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No. You are totally wrong on a few counts. I have stated over and over on the continous threads regarding Aliens are/are not Demons that I have NO PROOF that ETs exist. Quite upfront about that. Its sad, buts its true.
As far as support coming from 'crappy people' ( your word, not mine) I have to disagree.
There are many many people, some very high in command, in the armed forces of many countries who will support my beliefs. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Clinging to the words of people like Aleistair Crowley as an example does your cause no good. IMO.

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It's not an "alternate reality" though because its apart of our reality there are just different plains of reality that you do not have access to yet.

reply to post by SplitInfinity


Well I have researched this subject a lot, and I actually believe the correct term is extradimensional, not interdimensional, but who knows, maybe they actually mean the same thing? Let's not waste time arguing petty semantics.

When I say extradimensional I'm pretty sure people understand what I'm saying. "Ghosts," "spirits," "demons," "angels," "shadow people," whatever term you want to use is fine with me! lol

But it isn't PHYSICAL SPACE ALIENS FROM SOME OTHER PLANET that we're dealing with here on Earth, that is the main point.

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Originally posted by dementedtheclown

Originally posted by Diplomat
Last night I googled "Magick Forum" and read posts on a few different forums for hours....

What I gathered from these people who do ceromonial magick and evoke/invoke demons, is that "Satan" aka the Devil is not even real... but Lucifer, Azazel, Astaroth, etc (the list goes on forever) are actual entities that they conjure/summon/whatever.

So while these extradimensional entities might exist, I am starting to believe that the whole "Satan" story is just that, a story.

On the other hand, if this "Satan" is in fact real, then I would think he would fall under the same categories as demons: an extradimensional entity.

Satan is Lucifer rere

Not sure what rere means, but based on my research and things I've learned from people involved with the occult, Satan and Lucifer actually are NOT the same thing.

Whilst I have *witnessed* aliens before, and I use the term witness loosely...
I happen to have this notion these things I *have seen* are just hypnogogic hallucinations bought about by sleep paralysis. Something that has accompanied man on his journey through the generations since time immemorial. These hallucinations manifest how they will, but the evolution of them being the incubus, the succubus, the phantasm into the alien in modern thought is tangible, whether you like it or not.

And that is a big problem.
They say you have free will but want to force their beliefs on the others.
If aliens were really just demons, then all you'd need is a few prayers, maybe some holy water, not endless religious propaganda on a UFO / aliens forum.

It's a huge bag of nonsense, secret societies working with demons and bluebeam to bring a one world communist rule... The things you see...

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Diplomat

 

en.wikipedia.org...

Yes, I understand that in popular cultures since Milton's book that most people associate Lucifer with Satan...

But after learning from people who are actually involved in the occult and conjuring demons I realize that they most definitely are not the same thing.

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

The devil does not have the authority to punish humans for sin, only God is righteous and holy enough to judge. and i think your forgetting it was him who tempted Adam and Eve to commit sin in the first place. No one is putting the blame of sin onto him, it was man's rebellion against God that led to sin and that's why we're a fallen race that need's a savior.

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Oh...PLEASE! Listen....after the compleation of THE HUMAN GENOME PROJECT....evolution ceased to be a theory and became a FACT. We were able to map every atoms position in DNA and RNA in the Human Genome as well as map our evolutionary development back to a single cell animal.

Adam and Eve is a nice story but it has no reality. Even THE VATICAN sighted after the Genome mapping project that....and this is close to what they said...you can look it up....New scientific evidence has made us realise the realities that GOD has created Man through Evolution. Split Infinity

Originally posted by Suspiria
Whilst I have *witnessed* aliens before, and I use the term witness loosely...
I happen to have this notion these things I *have seen* are just hypnogogic hallucinations bought about by sleep paralysis. Something that has accompanied man on his journey through the generations since time immemorial. These hallucinations manifest how they will, but the evolution of them being the incubus, the succubus, the phantasm into the alien in modern thought is tangible, whether you like it or not.

It's interesting you bring this up, because some people even say that the "demons" that they conjure in magickal ceromonies are not "real" in the sense that they exist out there on their own, but they are real in the sense that they are archetypes that exist in the human conciousness/psyche, and when you conjure them, evoke them, whatever, you are basically seeing a projection from your own mind, so to speak.