Anyone else smell a snow job with this hurricane coverage.

In order to think there is some sort of massive conspiracy involving the hurricane, we have to operate under the assumption that not only could its track have been predicted long before it even formed, but that as it approached Florida, people knew that it would strengthen and veer to the north. I saw a thread on here about "how to steer a hurricane" but I'll admit I didn't read it. I find it highly unlikely that a hurricane could be predicted so far in advance and then be steered.

I find the conspiracy of media to aggregate attention for advertising space to be the real culprit. Someone said it was a slow news week - but in my opinion, now with worldwide coverage, it's never a slow news week, there are simply stories that the media will not touch with a ten foot pole because it's not polite to bite the hand that feeds you.

I also agree that nobody wants to waste a crisis, but why in God's name educated people would attribute this more to a comment by Ram Emmanuel some two years ago, and not Milton Friedman minions from every Latin American CIA-sponsored Regime change over the last 40 years is beyond me. But I'll go with it...yes, every time the media overhypes a hurricane, Home Depot and Lowes make their quarterly earnings early on plywood, tapcons and generators; and every grocery store has to restock its canned food and bottled water section. In this way, I could see it as a consumerist spectacle of disaster capitalism, and certainly it shall not be wasted.

The OP alluded to the novelty of tidal forces. I can only assume he was referencing "storm surge" which is a real and continuously documented aspect of hurricanes. There is nothing fear-mongering about storm surge. Even passing by my home in Florida well off-shore, I saw our canal's level rise drastically. But we were out of harm's way. It wouldn't have been prudent to not say anything to those vacationers at Virginia Beach or the Jersey Shore as you would have seen more death as people got to close to the surge or got swept out to sea by rip currents. It also wouldn't be prudent to not let people know there could be flash flooding from the amount of rain.

At the end of the day, the fact of whether it was a Category 1 or a TS (or just another bad storm) is irrelevant. We construct the media apparatus because we want to be informed. When the information cannot be predicted accurately, we bemoan their analyses, but you cannot say you know for sure what would have happened had they not said anything or done anything significant, unless you have some sort of time machine. I blame all of us because this is the system we've created...if there were no subways and seaside vacationers, there would be no stoppages and mandatory evacuations. There would have been some Native people's who hunkered down in their longhouses and tents, waiting for another great storm to pass. No Jim Cantore to be spotted by the mouth of a tree-lined, sparsely populated, pre-Colombian Hudson River. Pick your poison.

I don't believe that there is a conspiracy, but the MSM always seems desperate for one of these hurricanes or earthquakes to be as horrible as possible for their ratings.

You could see the disappointment in some of the talking heads' eyes when it became clear that this storm wasn't going to wipe all of us off of the map over here in the east.

We're still alive MSM. Go _____ yourselves, you gang of bloodythirsty sociopaths

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This.

Perhaps it is just a dress rehersal for a hurricane season that the NOAA and others know undoubtedly will be brutal.

I do not envy those who make these calls.

Either they are accused of doing too little, uncaring, or they are doing too much, fear mongering.

Can't make everybody happy, I guess.

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Yep. I said it yesterday. This was a major over-hype by the lame-stream media. Here on the east coast, between Tuesday's EQ and this weekends threat of a cat 2 here in the Philly region which turned out to be a tropical storm where the winds never exceeded 40 mph, it was a joke. I know these events were just a natural coincidence, but part of me thinks that this was a dress rehersal influenced by TPTB for a real emergency scenario - eg. dirty nuke bomb, appoaching celestial extinction event, etc. to see how the sheeple will act in that kind of situation.

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It makes you wonder about the zone a, zone b, zone c in NYC, wonder how many were documented when they showed up, must of really pissed them off when out of the 95,000 capacity, 5000 only showed.

And one more thing, Honestly defending the MSM and the Fed about this is unreal. First of all, everyone believes it was hyped up, it never hit a cat 3, the zones, the shelters, the panic and fear mongoring makes you wonder something else is up because why would they react so crazy for a bad rain storm, dont give me , they didnt want another Katrina and were doing the right thing, Maybe so, BUT this was never close to a Katrina by far, and God bless the people killed during this, but like others are saying on here, the fed was too suspicious, it almost does feel like a test run of some sort. Maybe this was their excuse for another qe3, how much money was lost during the shut downs, how much money did the fed spend?

Too many posts to read, but I wanted to comment. Apparently many people aren't familiar with the phrase "prepare for the worst, hope for the best". Yes, it's all over the news. Yes, there's overreacting.

However, were the states NOT to overreact, and there ended up being massive devastation, most of the people complaining about overreacting would then be complaining because enough wasn't done.

It's quite obvious that the states (and US government, and media) intentionally overreacted so that if something catastrophic did happen, they couldn't then be accused of not doing enough. That is in direct response to public outrage over Katrina, and the like.

This is a problem I have with most conspiracy theories. It really doesn't matter how the government or media respond. If it's too much, you'll be crying foul. If it's not enough, you'll be crying foul. Some of you have created a no-win situation.

I'm no fan of the government, or of media, but I at least understand why they overreacted. In hindsight, it'll be too much, but hindsight is typically 20/20.

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I am certainly not defending the Fed. Or the MSM.

I am saying that there is no good answer, or response, that we wouldn't be here now, railing against.

Whatever way they were to turn here, every single option available, is a barb wired booby trap.

Consider it training, and don't get bent because they overspent this time.

Because next time, if they cut the budget and protocol to nothing and there IS a great tragedy, there will be an upsurge in ATS's membership roles, decrying man's inhumanity to man.

What good is money, if we aren't helping each other with it?

Another overblown "Chicken Little" moment, like many winter snow-storm predictions.

Makes me wonder if the "powers that be" are using this "spring zephyr" for another purpose.

To get people in the mindset of preparing for disaster?

To get people to ACTUALLY prepare for disaster? (generators, food, water?)

To get people used to obeying the authorities and to do what they are told to do?



Something is up.

I almost started a thread with this same ideas, but I didn't want to be the only one with those thoughts. Glad someone took the courage to say it. I've read a few threads with the same similarities as this one and yes, I do too believe this is just a plot for some major disaster coming up in the U.S.A. ( The land of the free )

If you knew there were catastrophes upon the entire world about to occur, what would be the best way to get everyone to:

a) believe you
b) learn how to prepare themselves
c) Actually prepare themselves
d) remain calm enough to be effective

and keep some semblance of community....?

What would YOU do?

See the thing that really bothers me about this whole thing, is that the storm wasn't very organized. I learned about weather from the U.S. government and they had to know this storm was going to break up as soon as it made land fall the first time. The pressure was only around 950mb. There has been low pressures much deeper over land. Two reasons why this was hyped as much as it has been; slow news week and the MSM needed a ratings boost. People are starting to get wise to their BS and people or turning them off. What better way to increase viewing then make this storm out to be the storm of the century. Or something much sinister is going on. The government is testing people's readiness or making people become complacent when it comes to disaster. So when the next time a real threat comes along, people will just ignore it.
I'm learning towards the rating boost because we all know those in the media are effing vultures.

Originally posted by spikey
Just out of curiosity..where are these hundreds of thousands of citizens actually being evacuated to?

hotels, motels and i heard people in NY gonna stay at the subway station

yesterday on fox news they show 3 people swimming in the ocean during the storm, and fox news reporter were calling them idiot

The MSM doesnt want to report on any real news like libya. Gotta wait for the special forces to get Quckdaffi first or it would look bad for NATO and the president.

well for starters hugo did not have the same track at all , so if that is what your using as a reference for you and your friends sitting thru a hurricane your way off base, secondly it was and needs to be hyped up to save lives! it could have very easily been much worse for lives and property then people like you would have been complainging that the news is trying to kill everyone....

fail thread

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I'm willing to take that bet. Talk is cheap my friend.

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by Char-Lee
We are finding it totally strange. It seems they are more panicked over this one the Katrina a 5.
They said the airport in NYC could be under 25 feet of water???
They had what was it 10 states declare state of emergency and nothing even happening as of yet...all for what looks like about as bad as one of our regular winter storms here on the Ca coast where we have trees down on our road a few times each winter.

They are acting like the ENTIRE COAST getting blasted with storms is worse than a hurricane that was predicted to hit one state?
Why are you all so fixated on the category of the hurricane and not the size of the land mass getting hit? This is not just about the hurricane. This is about an entire coast and all the things that come with hurricanes all along an open coast like that in many states not prepared for the fallout. We are not exactly used to these tornados up in NY but that is hardly news to anyone in Kansas, right?
I do not even remotely understand what the tinfoil hats are thinking if any of you can look at a map.

OVER REPORTING PICK AND CHOOSE
Well personally WHAT I AM SAYING is my boy is in a helicopter on some weird mission in Afghanistan and no one talks about Afghanistan.
When the tsunami hit my town it was not even on the mainstream news.
We have radiation here that started at 18 on the map before Fukushima and is now in the high 30's and rising..no one talks about that. No one showed the videos on the news how the land is sinking there, we heard about 9/11 from the world but we don't see this stuff.
ccording to U.S. Forest Service officials, the largest wildfire in Arizona state history has now covered more than 500,000 acres
When people report and report and there is nothing but that report on the news on every channel day in and day out it should be pretty bad considering all the things never reported at all.
Here are a few things not being reported on
endoftheamericandream.com...

In the words of Homer Simpson... Boring!!!

I believe the media blows any story today way out of proportion, they try to scare everyone. I feel like the coverage we saw this past week was similar to what we saw when Katrina happened, especially knowing it was the first hurricane to hit land fall in 3 years... This was a weak storm and a total let down......

I am just wondering (like many of you are) if TPTB used this natural disaster as a practice run in an evacuation of big cities and the FEMA response.

Originally posted by illuminatislave
I don't believe that there is a conspiracy, but the MSM always seems desperate for one of these hurricanes or earthquakes to be as horrible as possible for their ratings.

You could see the disappointment in some of the talking heads' eyes when it became clear that this storm wasn't going to wipe all of us off of the map over here in the east.

We're still alive MSM. Go _____ yourselves, you gang of bloodythirsty sociopaths

But no not all earthquakes that are unusual just some. I sometimes see the news from Pacific Northwest report a 3 quake and laugh because there were 4.5's and 4's week after week and they never mentioned them in the same place!! Who decides which one to report I wonder and why..why skip the bad stuff and report some little thing. It is constant and we defiantly are manipulated into believing things that are not true. Getting upset only when they want us upset. The childlike persons just follows what they are told and never look deeper.