Aliens. Evil or not?

Originally posted by Lannock
Aliens are alien. We have no idea what they look like and we have even less of an idea of how they think. Anywho, I'll attempt to get into the mind of an alien. They are space-faring, therefore they are certainly more advanced than us. It would be highly likely they have gone through similar stages we have. Practically destroying their planet by over-populating it and raping it of it's resources. They would therefore place a higher value on our planet than on us. I doubt anyone will disagree that Earth will be better off without the human infestation. My thinking is that they might very well be studying us attempting to find a way to exterminate us without damaging the planet and the other lifeforms. Yes, this sounds like a dozen or so movies, but there's a strong possibility that it's true. If they are here of course

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As for greys, I think they are either robots or beings in spacesuits. Why would someone coming from an alien environment expose themselves to our environment so completely, walking around naked? If they exist then I would say they are robots due to their size and the big black visors which look like eyes.

Try 'dimension'. Space-faring? haha... Actually I would say a lot of them are socially and mentally inept. Greys are bots, but at least motivated enough to learn something. Still a bunch of tarts as far as I'm concerned, not evil though.
Human infestation? Oh please. Don't get into the propaganda. Do you know how much work it was to try to get your own people NOT to harm you guys? The earth is NOT overpopulated, there are enough resources, you are being manipulated.
EDIT: As far as I'm concerned, you should all be concerned that I have to actually come out and talk about this. This is how far you've gotten to be totally manipulated and lied to, and i have to get off my sorry a@# because SOME people think that a cancer cure is a 'derp' idea. Yeah good job fellas /s. While we have a bunch of socially inepts running out scaring people. That's another subject, I'm just venting. The stress is unbelievable you have no idea.

Originally posted by darkcloak88

Oh sorry you were talking about a lot of things, i was going to edit my post. I'll answer here. I don't know where this group is, last time I heard they were getting ready to be killed. I'm assuming the worst.

Human unconscious? The skinned cats (no paws trust me, very cold hands) came right through the door, had to get chased out with a baseball bat, years back. I would consider them neutral, not evil. I don't know about their involvement outside of cleaning up any mental messes (poorly done). They're the lowest rated one I'll give you that.

All these groups but one are socially retarded.

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Here's a list of who I've had to negotiate with:
White wax (people) with yellow irises

Block ops? hahaha well... As far as working with 'things' You save one, you get a saved a$#, I was in more than one piece. Would've stayed that way if it wasn't for a little fun we had, scared the bajeezus out of some a@#les, then finally got my butt saved.

A lot I agree with you with, a lot I do not.

What do they want? Honestly, I have no idea. The grays were desperate for social help and training. The reptiles just adore me. I really got a lot in return for helping a lot of them. They just needed to learn to keep from being a bunch of p#$1ks.

The white wax people with yellow eyes were probably the nicest of all. The saved my a## big time.

But I'll give out the confession here. I had to give these guys orders. Negotiating to keep you guys and them from doing some really stupid stuff was so f#$#$ stressful.

You guys back in the 1980s were under a very very bad situation. The cure to cancer was plain GIVEN to your heads (its in a clear glass vial with medal cylinders on each side with a cone divot inside). They didn't give it to you guys at all. What were we supposed to do? They were threatening you guys with planes and oh so nasty stuff. If I hadn't made some tough decisions with the white waxers you would be in BADDD shape. They wanted advice, and help, they got it.
1) No longer going to give you guys any access to technology.
2) support to help keep your cancer under control was shut down on our end, 'spiritual journeys' to cure it, accept the father, thought it was best
3) Hands were tied, you guys were being used as 'hostages' by your own heads
4) Getting the information out, being legal about influencing positive changes in your government, you guys get to pick your group and name to go and spread the truth. I didn't like the name, it sounded stupid. The joke was a 'peaceful' 1776, which I found hilarious.
5) All else fails, make an appearance, and I hate that HATE hate that plan. And not left with any other options.

This is why the 'others' are such a non-issue. You had so much going on with your own heads of power THREATENING you, there was no choice. I will say that someone you know very well is VERY pissed off, and I had to get an earful back in the 80s.

I'm sorry. Going about it the 'normal' way wasn't going to help. And I am still overly stressed about those decisions that had to be made, it really made me feel bad about #2, I'm really sorry.

So now you know why I'm a stressed a#@#e going around negotiating this h22#$@#t while people calling groups evil while not even asking why. It's like falling back another 20 years every time someone runs around calling them vampires or evil, or little monsters. Blah!

Well, I don't think Vampires are bad or evil. We humans made their whales go extinct and they just are really angry at humanity for that and have been taking that anger out on us---plus they really do need more blood than a human body can produce so they have to supplement it.

And yah, the Jue-sah (running as the illuminati) are the power behind that group of heads you're talking about. They are the ones holding us hostage. Or at least trying to.

There are actually a number of cures for cancer that really do work that are purely earth based. And that information is being suppressed as well because the Illuminati makes soo much money of the management and research and what not of all the chronic wasting diseases, cancer included. So we really don't need any outside help with that one; we just need to get the Illuminati out of our government.

So you don't think the white skinned yellow eyed people are the vampires I see them being? The vampires aren't bad, and albeit they are rather low energy, they would be helpful if it was in their best interest.

I hope you don't mind me saying that it is pretty hard to follow your meaning sometimes, so if I seem to miss the boat when replying, most likely it was because I didn't really understand what you meant.

Oh no I agree, I was horrified (derp didn't think they'd do this) when I found out they were RADIATING you guys as a cure. That stuff is so harmful (ugghghhhh) and the cure is easier, you're on the right track. But you were given the cure in a glass vial. It's still probably out there somewhere.
I don't see them as vampires? Never saw them suck blood (haha), as far as I was concerned there were already 'humans', the 'elders' keeping you from going off the deep end. They have yellow rounded irises with dilated pupils and are pretty small, they're skin looks like plastic white wax. ...Whales?.... They just seemed worried about you.

Everything fell through this year. I really thought negotiating would help. Its not for our benefit but for their benefit. The 'heads' we were trying to get to understand and get them to help others. Not even after trying to get some of our own at your heads did it help. Regular people are upright fellows but heck don't get me started on others. It's like trying to get a bag of rocks to run uphill. Get your s34t straight, we were helping you so you didn't F3$$ up. But i gotta say, this year, they really did.

At this point, there is absolutely nothing I can do for you guys. I hate to say you're 'on your own' but you're on your own. If you're all going to be ignorant at THIS point, there's nothing I can do to help. I was told I couldn't help you guys, and I'm starting to believe it was right. But maybe someone else can.

I've done nothing but make the wound grow its own salt. What a disaster.

Well, really, don't feel bad. You did your best and ultimately we have to do for ourselves if we are ever going to learn, eh? But we are just about at the end of the Jue-sah's time here. They were only playing you, I'm guessing, trying to cheat you out of as much as they could. That is the thing they always do, and is part of what made them so hated around the world and across the centuries. They never had any intention of changing or letting you 'help'. But anyway, they really are going to get kicked off the planet by the 'angels of Death' aka the returning E-l*th (elves) and humanity is going to do an about face!

Our making full enlightenment will really kick into high gear once they are gone, and really, we did need them here to help keep us from getting all comfortable and not doing anything to be ready for making enlightenment when this planet moved into this area of space where the frequencies are higher. Those higher frequencies are critical for us being successful in our making the shift.

So that is why the Jue-sah actually were allowed to stay here and abuse us in their efforts to enslave us (with the karma for that being held in abeyance) with the overarching sentience of humanity's permission up until 2012.

But they've failed to enslave 80% of us and so they fail! Karma will come due big time for them, like a rubber band that's been stretched for 250,000 years. So the Jue-sah are on their way out the door, whether they want to believe it or want us to know about it or not.

So not vampires... They are the ones that spring to mind, but obviously I haven't seen all of the aliens who've come to earth along the way. You're sure they are human, not just humanoid? Elders... I've encountered and interacted with the representative of the overarching sentience of the human racial unconscious, but he looked like a normal human, dressed like a native american (since I got to the higher plane via a shaman journey). I just don't see any other species that fit that description of waxy white skin and yellow eyes. If the skin is waxy then it means there is no blood in it. Maybe they were some sort of energy being using the human body like a shell? There are some of those around, and they do tend to be more kindly. Sort of like that movie "Cocoon".

But anyway, I'm am quite facinated by your information and hope you'll share a bit more with me. I do have to go to bed now though. I'll have to lots to think about for sure!

You're right about it being an end of an era. There was a lot of sacrifice and there's a lot of mess for you guys to clean up. I put a topic up about the rest, this was the ONLY time finally that I get to finally discuss these things. Everything's so messed up, that not a single f$Rk was given. I really want to do good. I always just want to help people. If it meant negotiating with unsavory fellows and getting (and the stress) of getting my a## handed to me, it was worth it. This is the only time we can finally discuss these things.

Oh and your savior was crucified on a T not a t. Get it right, just thought you'd like to know. Its only recently I got t confirmation that came through a book that was discovered made from lead where the Romans crucified on Large Ts not ts. So there i can finally relax. There's the info guys, have at it, I'm taking a f#$#$n break. There is just so much to everything, a lot of us are better off talking about Beiber. I don't blame you. I'm sorry I failed you. I'll try better next time I hope.

Originally posted by darkcloak88



You're right about it being an end of an era. There was a lot of sacrifice and there's a lot of mess for you guys to clean up. I put a topic up about the rest, this was the ONLY time finally that I get to finally discuss these things. Everything's so messed up, that not a single f$Rk was given. I really want to do good. I always just want to help people. If it meant negotiating with unsavory fellows and getting (and the stress) of getting my a## handed to me, it was worth it. This is the only time we can finally discuss these things.

Oh and your savior was crucified on a T not a t. Get it right, just thought you'd like to know. Its only recently I got t confirmation that came through a book that was discovered made from lead where the Romans crucified on Large Ts not ts. So there i can finally relax. There's the info guys, have at it, I'm taking a f#$#$n break. There is just so much to everything, a lot of us are better off talking about Beiber. I don't blame you. I'm sorry I failed you. I'll try better next time I hope.

Ah well, we'll get the mess cleaned up. Have no fear! Once we start making enlightenment, it'll make everything like restoring the planet quite easy, plus the Elves are going to help. What I see is that this is their planet, and part of the reason they're happy to kick the Jue-sah off world and that we are making enlightenment is because that means they get their planet back.

They terraformed it and got rid of the dinosaurs, and imported and improved a lot of plants and animals to make this the beautiful world it was. That's why the greys knew about us as a semi-sentient species. They were here helping the Elves do the improvements and adaptations. It was one of the best vacation worlds they had, from what I see. There was a royal residence here, even and a lot of high court members had homes here too.

Thank you for your efforts on our behalf though. I'm sure what you did still had a positive impact on what might have otherwise become an out of control situation way ahead of the time we could have handled it as a species. Now is the right time though for the STHF.

At least one energy pathway is restored and the elves are already returning in large numbers; getting ready for the confrontation with the Jue-sah/Illuminati/NWO bunch. But they are intervening on our behalf already. They've been stopping nuclear bombs from going off, they've been mitigating the effects of the NWO bunch created earthquakes (this last bunch on the east coast were supposed to be devastating); they've been interfering with, shifting the path of and reducing the threat from those huge hurricanes the NWO bunch has been whipping into the frenzy out over the ocean.

And while Jesus may have actually existed (although I see 'him' more as a compilation of a couple of guys from that time), the whole 'bible' myth about him is just that. A group of stories put together, or written by the Jue-sah to create a religion that was more effective in controlling the humans in Europe who had just become bereft of their 'gods' because the rescue ship from the elven home world had finally departed and most of those elves went with it. It isn't a coincidence that the rise of christanity happened when it did.

So how (or that) he was crucified isn't really something that matters to me. A LOT of jewish guys in particular were crucified by the romans around that time. That whole 'trying to quell a rebellion' thing. And the name Jesus was a popular name as well. That would be like saying, today, oh, they crucifed Tom! Or Nathan! The name just wouldn't mean anything special.

To me they are evil since they stir up things in humans such as fear, oppression and hate for humanity.
I see people here scared of abuctions, sleep paralysis and always talking about how inferior humans are.

those are all negative aspects, even one fellow was talking about "suicde" after he is done with some enlightening pilgramage because that will send him to some new dimension... i hope he/she was joking.

now if you want to split hairs. Aliens maybe do evil things to us but not to other aliens so they may have issues with us. if all aliens (if only one type exist) are mean spirited just because to anyone and any thing then yeah you can say they are evil.

Half baked response boss called.

reply to post by thedebater


Your very question is faulty. That's like asking "Humans. Evil or not?"

reply to post by DragonriderGal


Jue-sa? Elves?

Well, to each their own I suppose...

Personally, until I'm either face to face with a particular alien or watching one being interviewed on a mainstream public show, I tend to dismiss any statements claiming to know about different alien cultures, etc.

If someone is so up on these, and so up close and personal with aliens, why not shoot some home video? (insert lame denial excuse here)

reply to post by SplitInfinity


Once again! NOBODY CALLED THEM EVIL! My thread simply asked. "Evil"? "Or not"? And you are the ignorant one here, because you stand on your word about how I called them evil, and am racist against them. i hope you know you are also considered a "Human being". Whatever us humans did to them, you also did, because you are one of us. If you were to #ing read from page 1. You would see I never mentioned a single thing about how i do not like them, nor stating anything that would/could be considered racist. Please in the near future, before attacking somebody over nothing, make sure you know what it is about instead of throwing some concept in there that has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

reply to post by thedebater


Humans. Evil or not?

Once you answer that question you've also answered the alien one.

(*Hint* Not all humans have positive intentions. But not all humans have negative intentions either.)

Since several of you replied to my post....I will try my best to answer in this reply.

As far as where I get my information...that comes from experience...not hersay or second hand. For those who missed an earlier post by me....because of my families history and ties to several agencies and military branches...and because my jobs were specific and benificial in their aspect to certain....oppertunities that my job experience and expertise brought to the table. I am a Patriot...but I do not follow blindly....in fact I have a great deal of autonomy...as they always ask me...and not the other way around.

As far as E.T. being Evil....that is not the case....just EXTREMELY DIFFERENT...and their are several races we have treaties with....and others we don't. The main aspect of these treaties or the Ace in the Hole we used to get the treaties....because without this ACE....E.T. would have continued....as they did with impunity in the 40's...50's....and to some extent....the 60's....continued to overfly large population centers in daytime....and continue their study of life on this Planet...that includes us....without much of a code of conduct.

As far as one persons idea that my use of the term...Interstellar Travel...being some kind of tell....and perhaps this person believes that the majority of E.T. races are Interdimentional....let me make this CLEAR.
Interdimentionality as is expressed in current modern folklore as to describe a point of origin for E.T....is a MISNOMER!

This term is wrongly used as people have been watching one Sci-Fi movie or special too many. Interdimentionality or saying something or someone's origin is from a different dimention....is a mash of incorrect words and assumptions. Dimentionality is simply geometry....what most sci-fi shows detail is more akin to ALTERNATE REALITY. Split Infinity

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Since several of you replied to my post....I will try my best to answer in this reply.

As far as where I get my information...that comes from experience...not hersay or second hand. For those who missed an earlier post by me....because of my families history and ties to several agencies and military branches...and because my jobs were specific and benificial in their aspect to certain....oppertunities that my job experience and expertise brought to the table. I am a Patriot...but I do not follow blindly....in fact I have a great deal of autonomy...as they always ask me...and not the other way around.

As far as E.T. being Evil....that is not the case....just EXTREMELY DIFFERENT...and their are several races we have treaties with....and others we don't. The main aspect of these treaties or the Ace in the Hole we used to get the treaties....because without this ACE....E.T. would have continued....as they did with impunity in the 40's...50's....and to some extent....the 60's....continued to overfly large population centers in daytime....and continue their study of life on this Planet...that includes us....without much of a code of conduct.

As far as one persons idea that my use of the term...Interstellar Travel...being some kind of tell....and perhaps this person believes that the majority of E.T. races are Interdimentional....let me make this CLEAR.
Interdimentionality as is expressed in current modern folklore as to describe a point of origin for E.T....is a MISNOMER!

This term is wrongly used as people have been watching one Sci-Fi movie or special too many. Interdimentionality or saying something or someone's origin is from a different dimention....is a mash of incorrect words and assumptions. Dimentionality is simply geometry....what most sci-fi shows detail is more akin to ALTERNATE REALITY. Split Infinity

Doh! Yes, you did say that was where you got your info, didn't you? Brain fart! Sorry,SI! But you do have to admit it was back some pages. And then you stopped answering me. *pout*

The contracts with various groups. The tall skinny blue people were doing that stuff, weren't they? The flyovers and so on? I can see that they needed to be taken into hand.

I don't really see us needing a contract with the greys though. They pretty much keep their heads down; at least the group I'm familiar with. Maybe some of the other groups might have wanted a contract though, for security purposes.

I don't see the Dracs having space craft though, unless they were given some by the NWO bunch. And I don't think we'd need a contract with them because they work for the Jue-sah.

There is one other dimension from what I can see... it is the place where 'demon' type aliens come from. They can be 'summoned' because they are not far distant, like the other aliens. And the Jue-sah and their flunkies use the demons for some of their dirtiest work, since it is believed (not sure if it's true or not) that bad things done in this dimension won't cause them bad karma in their dimension. I imagine they'd want to not come back though if they'd been realllly mean.

Reality lines are something else entirely.

But anyway, what aliens have you met? I am sure there are those that I haven't encountered in the racial unconscious yet. I always love to add to the list of those I do know.

And honestly, after all this, do you really think I'm crazy? Do crazy people act normal when they aren't accessing the racial unconscious? I still act normal though, even accessing it. I just say things, based on what I see in there, that kinda freak people out. If you met me in real life, you'd never know what I see, unless we ended up talking and I could see that you were open to the idea that things may not be what they seem.

Humans live in a paradigm created with the purpose of evil intent,Religion on this planet has made sure of this by promoting and indoctrinating the fear mindset into the many.Sad as these Aliens have an easy route to achieve when or if they decide to conquer us.
As earthlings however we are no more then a common garden bug to these beings who have been harvesting us and playing "monsanto" with us for eons.Quite funny as it is truth that sets us free perhaps and it will be the death to all as we just do not get it.
They use fear ,but is it evil intent? Or is it because the human mind has been conditioned to accept fear and so translates that into evil thoughts.An evil thought is a conscious mirror of those you wish never to be like ,hence these little critters ,aliens will always have the upper hand.Fear not and evil dissolves right before your eyes friends.............peace.

All I can say with what I've read of those little grey aliens.....

they are evil as hell

if I am ever confronted with one, of course I'm going to kill it or die trying

DRAGON...i don't know you well enough to say anything about you or make a judgement. I was concerned that you might be a follower of Hubard...because what you said sounded familiar.

As far as making any statements about races of E.T. I can only say that there are more than one and that it was not E.T. that demanded a treaty....it was US. Split Infinity

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by DragonriderGal

 

Jue-sa? Elves?

Well, to each their own I suppose...

Personally, until I'm either face to face with a particular alien or watching one being interviewed on a mainstream public show, I tend to dismiss any statements claiming to know about different alien cultures, etc.

If someone is so up on these, and so up close and personal with aliens, why not shoot some home video? (insert lame denial excuse here)

A watcher, eh? Those kind of aliens are real, albeit they are much shorter and most of them died when Atlantis went down. More might be arriving though. At least one of the energy pathways is reopened.

And well, if you believe you can trust the current media to give you truthful, accurate and meaningful information, that pretty much says it all.

My information comes from the human racial unconscious (to which I was given full access while on a bonafide shaman journey) where it is stored in the memories of humanity and any alien who has died and ended up in a human body and so is now human. And there is a LOT of that kind of information. A lot of aliens have died near or on earth over the millenia.

When I am accessing memories, though it's like watching mini movies from the discovery channel without any narrator at times. Or the information is just there, sometimes in a kind of an 'aha' manner and other times more like.. Oh, I knew that!

I'm not in contact with these aliens at all in the physical realm but I do have a contact with the group of greys who's people are the ones who tend to reincarnate as Chinese (although they do their darnedest to make sure they don't die away from their ships or home areas so they don't end up reincarnating as a human), out in the spirit realm. I've learned alot about them because of that.

But don't worry, you'll see the E-l*th (we pronounce it Elves, the best we can do) soon enough when they start digging the still remaining alien Jue-sah out from their hidey holes. It'll start sometime after the end of 2012, but from what I can make out in the racial unconscious thus far, the time isn't really settled yet. Just keep an eye out and don't let the Israeli or the NWO bunch drag us into this war with the 'aliens'. They're going to try to make it seem like an alien invasion, but it isn't. It's just the 'tribulation' as per their own book of revelations, albeit that version is meant to make us believe we ALL are targets, not just the Jue-sah and their flunkies.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
All I can say with what I've read of those little grey aliens.....

they are evil as hell

if I am ever confronted with one, of course I'm going to kill it or die trying

What you are reading about is the bots, made to look like greys, that are being produced and used by both the blues, and now the Jue-sah to to do the bad things they want done. The real greys are way too shy and gentle-natured to ever cause intentional pain. But they are kinda clueless about stuff and tend to do 'abductions' on occasion because they want to check up on how our dna is changing as we move towards enlightenment. They aren't intentionally mean though, but they can be rather intrusive in their information gathering techinques and don't explain what they are doing so it does come out with them looking not so nice.

But the Blues and Jue-sah are setting the greys up to be the bad guys so that when the SHTF, we humans will think the greys are to blame for stuff and go after them instead of the true perpetrators. And based on your reaction it appears their trickery is working, eh?