NOFX stuff

This was deleted in my other forum www.nissaninfiniticlub.net bc it went against most of the moderators views, whom the majority are conservative. I hope anything i say on this forum wont be reviewed and deleted by the ministry of information =P

this was taken from the NOFX album with the "The War On Errorism". whether you enjoy their music, they have many good points. I thoguth u guys might enjoy this. i know i did. and who knows... maybe this'll give you an idea to rant on.
-Mike
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Hello, and greetings from NOFX. How are things with you? that's nice. this would be a good time to start the introduction to this cd. there's a bunch of punk songs and some other kinds of songs (i guess we still do play ska) and plenty of sophomoric lyrics, but unlike other NOFX cds, this one has some bonus stuff. we've included an enhanced cd featuring some videos and some politically commentary. yeah, we're not really known for our politics, but maybe it's time we are. maybe it's time for people to start sharing information and opinions instead of relying on our government or the corporate owned media to tell us what they think we should know. you don't have to be a political analyst to see that america is suffering from a general lack of knowledge. in fact, americans seem to have a very limited knowledge of knowledge. lots of opinions floating around, but very little actual knowledge. for being one of the wealthiest and supposedly greatest nations on the planet, one would think that the people of this great country would reflect that greatness. they don't. compared to other western countries, americans rank among the lowest when it comes to education and general knowledge of world affairs.

The first question one would ask is why? why are americans so ignorant? could it be that the american government wants them that way? if they didn't, they might spend more money on education. the best way to keep the status quo is to keep the majority of people happy. the best way to keep them happy is to keep them ignorant. ignorance is bliss and the blissful don't revolt.

How do you keep 300 million people from knowing or caring what's going on in the world? well that seems pretty easy. you make sure that people spend most of their time concerned with their own security. you make sure local news shows cover all the local shootings, kidnappings, and armed robberies. then throw in some sports, weather, and the ever changing price of gasoline. it seems that ALL major news sources provide the same one sided stories. when all you get to see is one side, it's hard to understand the complexities of an issue or have empathy for the other side. someone such as Bill Maher from the canceled tv show Politically Incorrect was ostracized for giving an honest yet unpopular viewpoint on the subject of terrorism, and his show was subsequently canceled. somehow one of the most inherently american pastimes of criticizing the government is now considered completely un-american. it's our responsibility as americans to exercise our right to civil disobedience and dissent. these are the principles on which our country was founded.

Anyways, this is the reason we have included the enhanced cd. people need an alternative source of information. this is our way to help inform the public on how we are all getting ass #ed. the movie "un-precedented" clearly illustrates how the 2000 presidential election was rigged in florida. for being the so-called leader of democracy, the united states is now the butt of a worldwide joke. the republican party stole the election and illegally moved into the white house. it's pretty much the biggest scandal in US history and no one seems to be talking about it. all everyone keeps saying is "get over it" or "that was so two years ago." well, we're not getting over it and neither should you. if enough people see what really happened, hopefully we can make sure that it never happens again. hey, the truth about the cuban missile crisis didn't come out for over 30 years, but it was just as important when it did. please watch this trailer for this documentary and show it to as many people as you can. if you would like a full length copy, go to www.unprecedented.org to get one. things are not going to change on their own. we need to work together to take this country back from the criminals (currently war criminals) that have stolen it from us.

A lot of you reading this might be thinking that we're assholes or american traitors. well, we may be assholes, but we're not traitors. we are actually patriots in the true sense of the word. We are the ones calling attention to the faults of our government and trying to fix them. We are the ones trying to expose mistakes in order to learn from them instead of covering them up. We are the ones who have concern for more than just ourselves. We are the ones trying to educate people. We are the ones who question authority instead of simply obeying it. We are the ones who are patriotic.... screw THAT! did i just say that? let's go back. patriotism is a little too close to nationalism. or is it the same thing? either way, we are #ing better than patriots. we are world patriots. not only do we care about our own country, we care about the whole #ing planet. we are human beings with the capacity to care for more than just ourselves. so let's use that capability. it's not enough to simply think locally or nationally. we must think globally.

Americans are so concerned with their own personal safety that they've turned their backs on this country and this planet. they put an american flag on their SUV and figure they've done their part. they're more concerned with their Feardoms then our Freedoms (hey, that's pretty good!) so let's stop with the "WE ARE #1" bullsh*t. america is not #1. we're like #11 or #12. for the 91% of americans who haven't traveled outside this country (such as george w. bush before he was "elected"), there are several countries that are arguably better than this one. i would put australia, canada, sweeden, holland, and denmark on the top of that list for sure. some of these countries have all the freedoms the US has* plus a whole lot more of 'em (prostitution, socialized medicine, euthanasia, gay marriage, legalized recreational drugs, gay military enlistment, abolishment of death penalty, etc.) don't get me wrong, # 12 is still pretty damn good out of over 250 countries, but there's still a lot more room for improvement. that's what this is really all about: positive change. we don't want to bash america, we want to make it better. in order to make it better, you must first point out what is wrong with it. well, we got a big pointing stick and we're aiming right for the eye. we're looking to poke that sucker right out of its socket. thanx for reading our rant, and thanks for buying, burning, borrowing, or stealing this cd.
sincerely,
Fat Mike, Melvin, Smelly, and El Hefe


*not sure if australia has more freedoms, but the weather and surf sure are great, and the people are really nice.

[Edited on 8/20/2004 by s13guy]

Hey sounds like your into some really wicked music man... NOFX, Pennywise.... I'll bet you like Rancid, Guttermouth, NUFAN, Lagwagon etc as well? Into any old schol like the Ramones, Clash or Sex Pistols at all?

P.S i didnt actually read the post as i have read the CD insert before but i agree with what they say in it, and in many of the songs on the album.

NOfx is brilliant- have you heard their song called thats why i love her- about his overweight girlfriend?

Their songs are funny

Too lazy to read all that

But my favorite song would have to be Dinosaurs Will Die...bout how all these old #s will be dead soon and itll be the younger generation to take over the music industry.

actually its about the eventual death of the music industry, fat mike siad that in the NOFX q & a

Ehh...I was close

By NOfX
"Together on the sand!...I had my thumb up her (STUBLE!) country music play'in on the radio!!! And thats about the time I fuxed with your Grama's daughter... (THATS YOUR MAMA!)."

I love those guys! They are also some very brilliant political speakers in their own rights. I also agree with what they had to say in that album. Bang On!

In the words of Pennywise;
Keep the flame Alive!

[Edited on 8/20/04 by HumptyDumpty]

nice to see some NOFX fans in this forum, i was bashed in my other forum about tehm =D

Okay, I have one possible disagreement here...

"prostitution, socialized medicine, euthanasia, gay marriage, legalized recreational drugs, gay military enlistment, abolishment of death penalty, etc.)".

I don't really want all of those freedoms. Prostitution is a great way to spread diseases which can kill people, and if you are into morals then that would go down as a negative. Also, I would hate to be on the recieving end of euthanasia if say I was not ready for it, but incapable of denying it at the moment, perhaps due to some socialized medicine (or legalized recreational drug) which put me into a blackout of some sort.

I also have to say that I am not supportive of gay marriage or gay military enlistment, as I believe that homosexuality probably isn't the way to go about things.

Sure, abolishment of the death penalty sounds good until you think about all the people that we are paying to keep in the prison systems. I really don't know what to think on this one, because who are we to decide when someone dies, but then again I do not want to pay money to keep these scumbags (which the majority of people on Death Row pretty much are scumbags to be there) alive. I'm going to have to plead the 5th on this category, or say that I am nuetral like Switzerland (which supposedly has the greatest Army because they never die). NOFX is a good band, and it's nice to see that they are thinkers, but I don't want the freedoms that were mentioned in the quote that I used.

Originally posted by petey_pongo23
Okay, I have one possible disagreement here...

"prostitution, socialized medicine, euthanasia, gay marriage, legalized recreational drugs, gay military enlistment, abolishment of death penalty, etc.)".

I don't really want all of those freedoms. Prostitution is a great way to spread diseases which can kill people, and if you are into morals then that would go down as a negative. Also, I would hate to be on the recieving end of euthanasia if say I was not ready for it, but incapable of denying it at the moment, perhaps due to some socialized medicine (or legalized recreational drug) which put me into a blackout of some sort.

I also have to say that I am not supportive of gay marriage or gay military enlistment, as I believe that homosexuality probably isn't the way to go about things.

Sure, abolishment of the death penalty sounds good until you think about all the people that we are paying to keep in the prison systems. I really don't know what to think on this one, because who are we to decide when someone dies, but then again I do not want to pay money to keep these scumbags (which the majority of people on Death Row pretty much are scumbags to be there) alive. I'm going to have to plead the 5th on this category, or say that I am nuetral like Switzerland (which supposedly has the greatest Army because they never die). NOFX is a good band, and it's nice to see that they are thinkers, but I don't want the freedoms that were mentioned in the quote that I used.

lol at switzerland,

thnx for your input!