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Originally posted by stoneskull
Alex, is your avatar a little prozac pill?
"Masonry, like all the religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, CONCEALS its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."
Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma
A little bit. What annoys me more is when you post those crusty old "graphs" that imply that Freemasonry and Freemasons are involved in not only generic evil, but also Pedophilia. Now, I'm not saying that you are implying this, but you put up the graphs -- you had a choice. You didn't HAVE to post those graphs. You seem at least moderately intelligent, so you must realize how nonsensical those graphs are, and how there is not one iota of proof that they are accurate (because, in fact, they are not). That annoys me. if I felt you were making statements like that about Masonry -- just pulling the idea that Masons are evil out of the air, unsubstantiated, simply because you want a "conspiracy" to entertain you, then I would have set you on "ignore," plain and simple. I've already explained elsewhere how I feel about and deal with slander.
Neither. Not everything in the world falls into "Mason-made" or "Anti-Masonic" categories. This is just a picture -- it doesn't mean anything on its own, and the picture doesn't even seem to imply anything (other than the idea that Christ is The Great Architect of the Universe).
ppps: nice pyramid StoneSkull perhaps there are 3 hidden degrees in masonry?
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them."
"Masonry, like all the religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, CONCEALS its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."
Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma
I don't have much time,
Originally posted by LTD602
Did Albert Pike actually write that? If so, it's an interesting passage, obviously. Does it mean that the "secrets" are made open to Masons at what, the 15th degree, the 24th, or is it the 33rd degree? I'm a bit confused. What kind of Mason is considered an "adept" or a "sage"? At what point is a Mason "worthy" of receiving this truth ??? Does an "adept" pull a Mason off to the side and say "you've been selected, Brother, to receive the Ultimate Truth" ?? Is a book given to the Mason, entitled "The Truth - Yay!" Or, does a Mason simply wake up one morning and say, "holy Manly Hall !! NOW I understand!!" ????
Does an "adept" pull a Mason off to the side and say "you've been selected, Brother, to receive the Ultimate Truth" ?? Is a book given to the Mason, entitled "The Truth - Yay!"
(Please note... I only used existing roads, except in the case of the 'k", where the lower bar was made by connecting the corners of blocks. As such, this interpretation is more valid than one which draws random circles on the map.)
The Pentacle that extends north of the White House possesses many invisible levels of sacred geometry. Based on geometric progression of squares, it appears to be skewed an unequal, yet it supports a complex set of shapes that are common inside the Masonic lodge. It is explained in Bromwell's Restorations4 as the function of the oblong square, or a 1:2 rectangle (upside down):
Here we see the White House as the anchor of progressively larger circles, based upon the oblong square:
The line extending northeast from the White House defines another oblong square, as well as the northernmost boundary of the city
The red circle defines the northern border of the city directly north of the White House:
If we take that same square mile, and connect it to the two northernmost points on the pentacle, we can draw some more circles. The White House lies at the midpoint of the square and its circle:
The Forty-Seventh Proposition of Euclid
The Pythagorean theorem states that for any right triangle the sum of the squares of its two legs equals the square of its hypotenuse (a2 + b2 = c2). Or we could frame it as the sum of the square of the horizontal and the square of the perpendicular equals the square of the hypotenuse. We know this formulation was known before Pythagoras - there is evidence in ancient Egyptian work, ancient China (the Chou Pei manuscript), and the megalith builders. Regardless, it is attributed to Pythagoras and two hundred years later Euclid compiled his "Elements of Mathematics" where this particular proposition is found in Book One.
(47th) In every right angle triangle the square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
(48th) If the square described on one of the sides of a triangle is equal to the square described on the other sides, then the angle contained by these two sides is a right angle.
This theorem has been called the root of all geometry and the cornerstone of mathematics. The practical applications alone are worthy of the high esteem that Masonry affords it. And this is the interpretation of the lecture that is most considered when masons speak of it But the meaning of this hieroglyphical emblem does not stop there.
The emblem we are usually presented is the 3,4,5 right triangle in this fashion: The vertical line is of 3 units, the horizontal is of 4 units, and the hypotenuse is of 5 units. Not only is our attention called to this geometrical figure in the Master Mason degree, it is also prominent in the Scottish Rite in the 20th Degree - Master of the Symbolic Lodge and in the 25th Degree - Knight of the Brazen Serpent. Rex Hutchens, commenting upon the 20th Degree in his book on the Scottish Rite explains that:
Nine is a perfect number, being the triple of three. There are nine candles in three groups of three each on the East, West, and South of the Altar. They form a graphic representation of the 47th Problem It makes no difference in the equation if the other two angles are 45 degrees each or 30 degrees and 60 degrees or 5 degrees and 85 degrees. Because of the mystic meaning associated with numbers by the ancients, they considered the most beautiful triangle of all, the right angled triangle with sides of 3,4 and 5 units of measure. (Rex Hutchens, The Bridge to light, p.171)
In the 25th Degree commentary Hutchens describes the setting of this degree:
The ceremony takes place in four apartments. They are all remarkable in their simplicity. The first is called the House of the Earth. ...The second apartment is called the House of the Planets. The third apartment is ... styled the House of the Sun and Moon.... The principal chamber is called the House of the Light. Nine lights (candles) are arranged on the altar in groups of three, forming a representation of the Pythagorean Theorem,... (The Bridge to Light, p.215)
The evidence that the particular triangle alluded to in the Monitor is the 3,4,5 right triangle can be derived from the odd comments about Pythagoras' exclamation "Eureka" in the Grecian language. Here is where we can begin to apply the investigative tools of what is called gematria. As you know the ancient letters were also numbers. The correlation of numbers with letters gave ample opportunity to nest hidden meaning within words, phrases, and names. For example, if we take the word "Eureka" in Greek and consider the letters as numbers instead of letters, add them up to get a total value we get 534 - the units of this special triangle.
Maybe we can even find hints of this geometry in earlier degrees. A very interesting technique of symbolism can be seen when two different types of symbolism are fused together or alluded to by one another such as a legend that contains mathematical symbolism. For example, many of the blacksmiths of the gods were crippled or lame. In many cases the Sacred King was lame. The destiny of the Sacred King was to lose his life as a sacrifice; an act which will regenerate the world. Usually the lameness and sacrifice was deliberately caused. Vergil wrote a poem wherein the Queen who is resolved to die offering herself as a victim in the fire, he writes: "beside the altars, with one foot unshod, she calls as one about to die upon the gods and upon the doom-witnessing stars." There is an association between lameness and having one foot unshod. And in the idea of sacrifice and redemption. There is a Byzantine painting known as "Our Lady of Perpetual Help". This painting is of the Madonna holding her divine child. On each side of them there is an angel who holds some of the images associated with the Crucililion. The divine child is looking at one angel and one of his shoes is falling off. We can even find this idea in the slanting foot-rest of the Russian Cross in the Eastern Churches.
We can develop this further. In geometry, there are three types of triangles: equilateral, isosceles and scalene. The equilateral triangle has 3 equal sides; the isosceles has 2 equal sides, and the scalene triangle has no equal sides. Scalene means "uneven"; it also means "limping". Of all the infinite scalene triangles, the one thought of by the ancients as special - the king of them all, was the 3,4,5 unit triangle. This one had the special properties and it grew to have mystical properties as well. In so considering the symbolism of the Egyptian structure one author states:
And so beneath the ideal pyramid, with its four great equilaterals pointing heavenward as they converge above the center of the basal square... there would be sacrificed, hidden in the foundations so to speak, a limping but necessary scalene, supplying the all-important right angle for the base and for the central elevation. (Denning & Philips, The Magical Philosophy, Vol. 2 p.58)
As we consider geometry as symbolism as well as Truth, we have to think of it as the ancients did. Pythagoras said "All is Number" and in The Republic, Plato wrote: "The knowledge at which geometry alms is the knowledge of the Eternal." The Eternal was to Plato the archetypal Forms, or the timeless truths of existence. In other words, the foundation of the universe. That aspect of the universe which always was and ever will be.
Originally posted by stoneskull
Alex, is your avatar a little prozac pill?
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them."
"Masonry, like all the religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, CONCEALS its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."
Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma
It is absurd to suppose that men of intellect adored a monstrous idol called Baphomet, or recognized Mahomet as an inspired prophet. Their symbolism, invented ages before, to conceal what it was dangerous to avow, was of course misunderstood by those who were not adepts, and to their enemies seemed to be pantheistic. The calf of gold, made by Aaron for the Israelites, was but one of the oxen under the layer of bronze, and the Karobim on the Propitiatory, misunderstood. The symbols of the wise always become the idols of the ignorant multitude. What the Chiefs of the Order really believed and taught, is indicated to the Adepts by the hints contained in the high Degrees of Free-Masonry, and by the symbols which only the Adepts understand.
The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. The whole body of the Royal and Sacerdotal Art was hidden so carefully, centuries since, in the High Degrees, as that it is even yet impossible to solve many of the enigmas which they contain. It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain, and without any true reward violate his obligations as an Adept. Masonry is the veritable Sphinx, buried to the head in the sands heaped round it by the ages.
Originally posted by NeonHelmet
THE ROUND TABLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KING ARTHURS KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT IS.
You could stretch a connection if you accept that The Tale of Arthur is about nuclear power. He who pulls the sword from the stone will rule the world. The stone being U235 and the sword is a nuclear weapon.:puz
connection if you accept that The Tale of Arthur is about nuclear power He who pulls the sword from the stone will rule the world. The stone being U235 and the sword is a nuclear weapon.