2011 Global Stock Market Collapse Watch

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Stuck on loading for me.

Try Bloomberg, works pretty well for me
www.bloomberg.com...

This says it all...

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Thanks.
Yup loaded right away.

Anyone else notice that the only index that is up is the HANG SENG?
Kinda strange that China's index is up while every other index in the world is down.

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Its based on a statement from france finance minister.

No different to when Obama said the USA will always be a triple A when it was downgraded.

Politicians words.

The only way this will settle is if the ratings agencies confirm its a rumor and they are all being tight lipped.


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There are some real panic in London from friends at this moment many many rumors and fears, its like a "monkey cage" on the floor all chasing the same banana. And two further rumors are spreading quick was told people are trading based on them before computers pick up trend and stop it.

Just speaking to a friend the Rusiian Bank does seem to be just that a rumor but its spooked them, anyway as fear of Organised crime involvement in Russia, its raised the possibility of hidden leverage and non transparency within Russia and China.

There is ANOTHER 2 rumors about to hit MSM or you will see soon, I wont post it here incase its just that and rumor = fear= actual affects on the markets and peoples wealth.

If one of these rumors, is true it will be bigger than anything since 2008 and maybe more so could see vix at 60%- 80% or much higher by end of business therefore closed trading floors.

I think its not true, but after Lehman and Enron I would not be suprised, and I am going to arrange some of my affairs just in case.

I just thought about it much, probably the risk is about 5% of each, of being true but the effects are soo big I cant afford the loss.

Of to get to sign some papers make some calls and GET OUT asap. One rumor means basically financial war is about to be unleashed this week, some signs of it already have checked maybe maybe so but the trading could indicate that or rather the futures on it from a certain part of the world just just may mean there is a knowledge this is going to happen.
A Currency will go by Friday the market wont be able to buy up the dropped assets.

WATCH - CURRENCIES
WATCH - HEDGES and what they are doing with currency

We must remember the lords of the universe have more wealth and power than countries.
AS said THIS IS Rumor but has me very very spooked.

Will log in later and hopefully have this post ripped to peices as nothing happens.

But I would rather that than holding money that is just worth being ripped up and used as fire or toilet paper.

Elf

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Well, its still not that good because even though it closed in the green the last day, the day before HSI closed at -1120.

Asian stocks managed to do a little better than yesterday. Once again it appears that they're in a holding pattern. I have a feeling things won't be so nice later when their markets open again.

European stocks are taking a beating today, I guess the ECB's cash infusion was short lived and now the truth emerges. I agree with earlier posts that the EU is in some serious trouble. Especially if France's credit rating is downgraded.

Starting off to be a down day today for America's markets, but I'm not overly concerned. I think they'll drop to a certain point then people will buy again and it'll be a minimal loss.

Originally posted by haarvik
Anyone else notice that the only index that is up is the HANG SENG?
Kinda strange that China's index is up while every other index in the world is down.

It only appears that way as they took a huge loss yesterday.

HANG SENG 5 day chart

I just had an epiphany.

Government needs money.
It makes sense to intentionally create market volatility and chase investors to Treasuries.

Seems a conflict of interest.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
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WATCH - CURRENCIES
WATCH - HEDGES and what they are doing with currency

Very interesting post. Well if the rumors do come true, could you please be sure to point them out for us? I am open to believe anything at this point because people are losing a lot of money fast and then that's when things get ugly.

Currencies

Hedge Fund Index

Based off of these charts, what are we to look for?

Originally posted by Dbriefed
I just had an epiphany.

Government needs money.
It makes sense to intentionally create market volatility and chase investors to Treasuries.

Seems a conflict of interest.

At the risk of inflation though? Seems like one hell of a gamble. At the end of the day if this keeps up those Treasuries won't be anything, but worthless pieces of paper. If/when that happens is when things will get ugly as was mentioned in a couple posts above.

Originally posted by Shenon

The ECB (probably the FED too) are buying like crazy now,thats why.

ECB Intervenes In Last Minutes Of Euro Market Trading As Italy Closes Red Once Again

The Question now is,where are they getting the Money from? If France is downgraded and Germany has to pay (I hope not even Merkel is THAT stupid...i hope),then we are bankrupt in a few Months and the EU is finished. If we don´t pay,the EU is just finished sooner,or they start to Print,which could lead to Inflation and later to Hyperinflation when they have to buy more and more because one Nation after another goes bankrupt...

Something like that anyway. We´re screwed either way...

The Fed is most certainly not propping up the US market now. They had been burnt before and knows better. Right now, he has to be careful with the funds existing in US, and will not be as reckless as his predeccessors had done before in 08.

The ones propping up are your banksters, insurance and big hedgefund friends trying a last ditch attempt to con the massive foolish middle class investors to play in their gambling shell game.

As for ECB, Germany's back is on her wall with nothing more to lose. Most of those funds left are hers. If she backs out, EU will collapse and debt defaults will be the common issue. Losers will be the banking corps, but not the bankers, as their own wealth is already hidden in safe havens.

EU is a lost cause. Germany best save her own people now. Retail investors best keep away from the casino. If you don't play, you would already had won, thus no need to be tempted for a sure loss in the market. No sense in flogging a dead horse.

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It's sort of disconcerting how investors are flocking to Gold. Just goes to show the amount of distrust and unconfidence there is in paper currencies.

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Or..... you could take up a short position and make a killing while the market tanks

Goldman Goes Short The Dollar On QE3

Yesterday Goldman finally made it clear that Bill Dudley's marching orders are given: QE3 or no soup for you. Well, it didn't take long for the order from top to hit Goldman's FX desk, which has just issued this logical note: "Going short the USD on additional Fed easing." Odd, no easing has yet been announced, and according to so many none will come. But Goldman said so. So it must be.

ZeroHedge

Here we go again...I REALLY hope that this is not the case. I imagine precious metals will surge and the hedge fund terrorists will be temporarily placated.

My greatest wish is that people would turn off the boob tube, wake up , stop fighting among ourselves (rich v poor, black v white, Right v Left) and get a CLUE who and what our true enemies are.

Food Wars ----->>> Currency Wars- --->>> Real Wars.

Blessings to my fellow humans.

Canadian Stock Market TSX holding it's own compared to other markets (with exception to Hang Seng and Nikkei which were bouncing off the DOW yesterday).

S&P TSX 12,042.27 -66.99 -0.55%
S&P TSX Venture 1,723.94 +12.71 +0.74%

Seems as though there is always one market that is an exception during these days of losses. The other day was the Swiss I believe. Generally TSX follows oil prices or the DOW. Oil is down, and DOW is down big. TSX somewhat stable.

Gah, its happenening again....Looks like each market had their fun yesterday, US, Europe, and Asia gained, and now Europe is falling deep, and the US looks to be right behind them. I would guess all that was made yesterday, is now lost...not to mention all the losses sustained las tThursday through Monday.

Here's Europe right now, about to close

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And here's US stocks at the moment.

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Watching CNBC right now, and they're saying there's alot of fear over France, Europes problems, banks problems...looks like the Feds announcement didnt last too long.

ETA - Im going to guess the markets will follow Europes lead. The US is feeling it, and when Asia opens up (around 10 hours from now, they closed pretty good just like Euro and US did yesterday), they will problably take some heavy losses to.


ETA 2 - Gold just hit 1,800...CNBC is saying that now.

France’s top credit grade was affirmed by Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings as yields on the nation’s debt climbed on concern that Europe’s sovereign debt crisis is intensifying, reports Bloomberg.

France earlier in the day “categorically” denied rumours it was heading for a downgrade of its AAA credit rating after the United States was stripped of its top rating by Standard & Poor’s last week.

business.financialpost.com...

S&P is a joke anyway. I can't believe people take them that seriously. I think they couldn't downgrade because of all the flak they received for downgrading the U.S. had they downgraded France's rating the markets would've imploded. I don't think they wanted to run that risk. They have an agenda too!

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Well,the Damage is done...lets see how they get out of it now (who started that Rumour anyway). Their biggest worry is SocGen now,isn´t it?


WTH?

And The Hits Just Keep On Coming: Fitch Downgrades Cyprus To BBB, Outlook Negative

Aren´t they in the Euro too?

reply to post by Shenon


Probably more attempts at market manipulation so when they didn't downgrade it people would have faith in France, but yeah the biggest fear is that SocGen will go bankrupt causing the effects in the Euro losing purchasing power again, and the Euro and US stock sell off. I have a feeling Asian stocks will do the same thing when they open this evening.