UN-backed tsunami warning system test in Med NEXT WEEK!

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by wcitizen

I read a while ago that there is a huge plate off the Canary Islands which would cause a mega tsunami which would hit Ireland and UK and other parts of Europe if the plate shifted significantly. If I find the article again I'll post it.

You're thinking of Cumbre Vieja

www.iberianature.com...

A good example of scaremongering.

Thanks for the article, and agreed, I don't deny that it's scaremongering.

Originally posted by Discotech
reply to post by SatoriTheory

 

Technically he's correct, as you cannot predict earthquakes which are the cause for tsunami's.

Technically he's not correct. Earthquakes are not the only cause of tsunami's.

A tsunami is simply a tidal wave. It is possible to predict when a tidal wave might occur.

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Originally posted by Discotech
reply to post by SatoriTheory

 

As for the OP there's no conspiracy with the tests, it's just being done to make sure folk are prepared in the event of a tsunami and the system works as it should just like the quake emergency test they did in the UK a few years ago

And my reply to you is exactly what I put in my opening post

"OK I know what I'm thinking given what's going on seismically around the Med at the mo? What about you guys?"

Where for the love of God is the 'conspiracy' in that!

Rainbows
Jane

reply to post by SatoriTheory


It's only possible to predict a Tsunami when humans are the cause of said Tsunami, just tell me how exactly it's possible to predict an action of nature to cause a Tsunami ? Really please share this wealth of information, better yet... Let the Tsunami warning centers know this information of Tsunami prediction because I'm pretty sure they'd like to use it instead to put out warnings of definate Tsunami instead of possible Tsunami's like they currently have to do

Originally posted by Discotech

 

It's only possible to predict a Tsunami when humans are the cause of said Tsunami, ...

You are not correct, it is possible to predict a tsunami that is not caused by humans.

just tell me how exactly it's possible to predict an action of nature to cause a Tsunami ? Really please share this wealth of information, better yet...

Think for yourself, engage your brain. You do already know the answer. If you have kids, ask them, they will probably give you the answer quicker than you will get it.

Let the Tsunami warning centers know this information of Tsunami prediction because I'm pretty sure they'd like to use it instead to put out warnings of definate Tsunami instead of possible Tsunami's like they currently have to do

ALL tsunami are not predictable. They would still have to warn of 'possible' Tsunami. As for letting Tsunami Warning Centers know, I don't need to do that, they already know.

The information is out there, if you so choose to look for it.

st.

reply to post by SatoriTheory


I think you have a different definition of prediction to myself.

For me predicting something is being to say X event will hit in X weeks time

For you I think you're saying X event will hit in X minutes/hours, which is only able to occur due to knowledge of a Tsunami causing event.

If you're not able to predict the pre cursor event then you're not able to predict Tsunami's IMO

But of course if you wish to provide evidence then go ahead as I've searched for information on predicting Tsunami however all I can find is information in regards to what I have already stated which is about knowledge of a tsunami causing event happening first

So much for early warning systems, whether they are being tested next week in the Med or not. So much for our (UK) environment agency and their flood warnings. I would like to put forward this......

About 2 weeks ago there was an area in China which was going/being hit by massive torrential rain, a local very large damn was under threat up bursting. The Chinese moved 250,000 people to a safe area. This week, just a a couple of days ago they were under threat of typhoon Muifa, so they moved 280,000 people to safety.

Just yesterday in the UK areas such as Aberdeen, and NE England had flash floods, and some of our emergency services were stretched to capacity last night......Where was the 'early warning'? Why weren't people moved to safety? Why weren't sandbags or whatever issued as soon as they knew this was going to happen? It's not that our Environment Agency don't know that these things are going to happen. The NE England is a 'hot spot for these kind of events.....what is this country playing at?! OK I conceede that this event might not be as life threatening as what was happening in China, but all the same..........

Rainbows
Jane

Just shame, real tsunami hit everyone will think its just a drill and do not care.

Originally posted by Discotech
For you I think you're saying X event will hit in X minutes/hours, which is only able to occur due to knowledge of a Tsunami causing event.

No, you think wrong. A prediction is when you can say an event will hit in minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years or decades ahead of time.

If you're not able to predict the pre cursor event then you're not able to predict Tsunami's IMO

So in this case, predict the pre cursor event.

But of course if you wish to provide evidence then go ahead as I've searched for information on predicting Tsunami however all I can find is information in regards to what I have already stated which is about knowledge of a tsunami causing event happening first

You can't have looked very hard dude. Try searching for what causes a Tsunami instead. Once you see it, you will realise the answer has been infront of you all along.

st.

OK the test was a success

view/news/successful_first_test_of_tsunami_warning_system_in_north_east_atlantic_mediterranean_and_connected_seas/

Good news one should hope....just a shame Ireland weren't involved too.

Think this closes this thread now.

Rainbows
Jane

Originally posted by angelchemuel
Good news one should hope....just a shame Ireland weren't involved too.

Thanks for the update Jane. According to the original release, Ireland were part of the test.

Taking part in next week’s test will be Belgium, Bulgaria, Cape Verde, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lebanon, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Syria, Turkey, Ukraine and the United Kingdom.

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Originally posted by SatoriTheory
A tsunami is simply a tidal wave. It is possible to predict when a tidal wave might occur.

Actually, they are two entirely different things, hence the name.

A tidal wave is entirely predictable, in fact, we get them regulary on the Thames and Severn rivers.

A Tsunami is caused by an earthquake or similiar maritime shifting of mass. Impossible to predict unless Humans did it.

Originally posted by stumason
Actually, they are two entirely different things, hence the name.

Depends what you read dude. Some places refer to them as tidal waves, some places say Tsunamis are 'mistakenly' referred to as tidal waves. Either way, they are a big waves.

A tidal wave is entirely predictable, in fact, we get them regulary on the Thames and Severn rivers.

Yes I know, I said above it was possible to predict a tidal wave. Tsunamis can also be predicted.

A Tsunami is caused by an earthquake or similiar maritime shifting of mass. Impossible to predict unless Humans did it.

Tsunamis are not impossible to predict at all, check your facts.

st.

reply to post by SatoriTheory


Show me how to predict a Tsunami ahead of the event that caused it? If you're talking the early warning systems, that isn't "predicting".

Also, there is no shadow of a doubt, Tsunami's and Tidal waves are two entirely different things.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by SatoriTheory

 

Show me how to predict a Tsunami ahead of the event that caused it? If you're talking the early warning systems, that isn't "predicting".

Ok, have you looked up what can cause a Tsunami? If not, do so, and then come back and list what causes a Tsunami. Then YOU tell me, which of those options have a level of predictability about them.

Also, there is no shadow of a doubt, Tsunami's and Tidal waves are two entirely different things.

They are both big waves, if you want to be pedantic and get into the finer details, fine, they are different.
They can both be created from water disturbance.

reply to post by SatoriTheory


I don't need to "look it up" because I know. I did state in my post above that a Tsunami is caused by a massive displacement of water. Such examples would be landslides, earthquakes and volcanos, all of which are inherrently unpredictable. The only ones you could predict would be man made water displacements such as underwater explosions (again stated above) which of course are predicatable but not really what is up for discussion here.

And I am not being pedantic. It's like calling a car a truck. Two different things, they both have 4 wheels and an engine but they're not the same thing at all.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by SatoriTheory

 

I don't need to "look it up" because I know.

Arrogance makes you ignorant. By thinking you know something, you are holding yourself back from learning.

I did state in my post above that a Tsunami is caused by a massive displacement of water. Such examples would be landslides, earthquakes and volcanos, all of which are inherrently unpredictable. The only ones you could predict would be man made water displacements such as underwater explosions (again stated above) which of course are predicatable but not really what is up for discussion here.

Those are correct, however, you have missed one that is predictable.

And I am not being pedantic. It's like calling a car a truck. Two different things, they both have 4 wheels and an engine but they're not the same thing at all.

Yes you are being pedantic, nit-picky. Instead of calling a car a truck, you would call both 'vehicles'.

Tsunami and Tidal waves are both big waves, you know that. You are just trying to win an argument that you have no chance of winning, and the reason you have no chance of winning it, is because you claim you don't need to look it up. Lazyness or arrogance.

If you had bothered to look it up, you would realise that the answer has been infront of your eyes all this time.



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reply to post by stumason


You can predict the path of space objects.

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