72 charged in online global child porn ring

72 charged in online global child porn ring

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Washington (CNN) -- More than 50 members of a child pornography ring who engaged in what authorities describe as "horrific" and "unspeakable" crimes have been arrested for sexually exploiting children from 12 years old to as young as infants.

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This is the most disgusting of the disgusting... What's even more disgusting than the atrocious acts these fiends performed, is the fact the Mainstream Media is keeping the names of those arrested, which is public record, out of their stories.

In a case this horrendous it amazes me the names of those arrested, their computers confiscated and found to have TERABYTES of the worst kind of child porn on them are being hidden.

Well they're not hidden anymore, The Hinky Meter www.thehinkymeter.com, a site with a community devoted to reporting, investigating, and discussing crimes against children in the hope of bringing justice for the kids, has outed almost everyone of the sick, twisted, sub-human scum that were involved in this...

Click the link below to go directly to the article that names the names.

Springer...

www.thehinkymeter.com...(visit the link for the full news article)

It seems if some of these people actually are not guilty and this is proven to be the case yet they have their names released in the media as child pornography people that it may cause a lawsuit for slander. Perhaps those doing the arresting are assuming their evidence isn't strong enough to hold them all so are keeping their names quiet so the people could just be quietly released.

I'm appalled at the things that they claim were required to be part of this site... I wish the law were much harsher on these people.... all children sexually abused on that site were under the age of 13.... and there was a specific forum for people that abused infants....

These people should be strapped to a table, and a calcium based acid dripped on them until they die....

Something I really can't bear reading about so I wont click the link. But it's because of things like this that I get so angry when folk attack parents who lose a child through some stupid oversight, when the reality could very well be the child was snatched in a calculated kidnap by one of these organised MONSTER cults.

I think it can be summed up with...

The lowest circle of hell..... they have a reservation..

reply to post by kro32


The federal and international authorities don't confiscate your computer, put you in jail, and release your name as arrested (yes, the names were released per the public record rules) after a months long investigative sting online unless they believe they have the evidence they need to convict you. Having child porn on your computer is crime in the U.S., if they found enough on their computers to arrest them there's little else to consider.

Consider this, when a guy gets arrested for dealing drugs his name goes in the paper, when someone is arrested for public intox, their name goes in the paper, when someone is arrested for murder, their name is all over the news in a high profile case.

If you get arrested your name is public record, if you're innocent you get absolved and released but, the record of your arrest is public.

Why is it different when it's something THIS HEINOUS and against innocent babies?!

Springer...

Not sure as I simply don't know enough about their rules to comment any further. I was just offering a possible explanation but your right that with enough evidence to arrest them they more than likely are guilty.

Will definetly keep an eye on this case so thanks for throwing out there for us.

...i support charging / convicting those who actually violate children - but - i'm concerned about the long range scope of charging / convicting people who view violent content but do not commit violence themselves - because - the next step is criminalizing thoughts...

...what if i want to research armed-militant organizations who commit terrorist acts?... am i going to be accused of being one of them because i view their websites or join so i can see info that only members can see?... yes, if criminalizing thoughts becomes a reality...

...the cnn article quotes the honchos in the case repeating the same horrific details, almost identically... that should make you pause and ask why repetitiveness is necessary... the next question should be - is this deal an intentionally sensationalized set-up to further control how we can use the internet?...

Originally posted by Springer
Why is it different when it's something THIS HEINOUS and against innocent babies?!

Springer...

There might well be a cover-up ordered from some higher power. Scary to think this but it could be hidden because the branches of that very network might reach up to very high places. There are rumours of the same type of ring in Scotland, MPs, Police, etc are supposed to be involved and the stories include child abuse and murder. It might all be hogwash but we wont know the truth until it's exposed. But it does seem like there's some sort of cover-up and extra protection for these people.

Why else would they rehome them next to schools when they're released from a very short stay in prison?

reply to post by Wyn Hawks


There is a HUGE difference between "viewing violent content" and viewing ANYTHING that violates innocent children in ANY way. Anyone who views or owns that sort of content belongs in prison and, as a society, we have thankfully passed laws to put them there. One of the sad effects of the wonder that is the internet is it makes it very easy for these sick, twisted sub human monsters to distribute their evil.

I am one of the biggest advocates for a FREE internet, but I will never support any form of child abuse, especially the evil sickness of this stuff, I can't put into words how I detest it and those who participate in it.

Springer...

Here's a little food for thought. A friend of mine worked for a large charity that helped rehabilitate and rehome offenders. This also included help for paedophiles.

When they're released into a nice free council house (probably near a school) they must report for counselling on a regular basis as part of their release conditions. They DO gather for their meetings in groups, thus meeting like-minded people. Then they're advised by those professionals taking care of them (and the community) - "just don't travel on the same bus home."

Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by Wyn Hawks

 

There is a HUGE difference between "viewing violent content" and viewing ANYTHING that violates innocent children in ANY way.

...this is an emotion-provoking subject that encourages people to nitpick other people's comments... i get that... i expect that... no biggie...

Originally posted by Springer
Anyone who views or owns that sort of content belongs in prison

...i disagree... it should be illegal to commit the violence, illegal to be present during the violence (accessory) and illegal to distribute film/photos of the violence...

reply to post by Wyn Hawks


I think what you're not taking into account is that for the Dreamboard community quest4more which was busted by Operation Delego, you couldn't view ANY child pornography until you had uploaded some yourself. And you couldn't stay a member unless you uploaded more every 50 days.

So this isn't just a bunch of researchers who happened to look at a picture. These are guys who worked hard at getting access and keeping it.

Having read the article and ultimately do believe those that are guilty should be punished within the fullest extent of the crime there are a few things that can be stated:
While in this age of the internet and people having access to such, it was the absolutely the worst thing that the site could have done by publishing the names of the accused. They have not gone to court, are not guilty, and therefore are innocent until they are proven guilty in a court of law. While we may not agree with the punishments or the laws, there has to be some rights of theirs that should be maintained, so that way they get a fair trial. Ask yourself this, could you be happy if one of these suspects, have all the evidence to find them guilty, walk free cause of the reporting of their name and thus they get off on a legal technicality?
There are some crimes, that once they are associated with a persons name, pretty much will bias any particular jury against that person. Any defense attorney will use this to get his client off, and potentially prevent his client from going to jail or even prison.
Make no mistake, reporting this, that is acceptable and the public should be made aware of, even the cities, states and countries, but never the names until after the trial is going, that way there can be no biasing or influencing any potential jury that may sit and have to pass judgment on the person.

Originally posted by Valhall
reply to post by Wyn Hawks

 

I think what you're not taking into account is that for the Dreamboard community quest4more which was busted by Operation Delego, you couldn't view ANY child pornography until you had uploaded some yourself. And you couldn't stay a member unless you uploaded more every 50 days.

...you must have missed my previous post (pertinent part below):

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
it should be illegal to commit the violence, illegal to be present during the violence (accessory) and illegal to distribute film/photos of the violence...

Originally posted by sdcigarpig
the absolutely the worst thing that the site could have done by publishing the names of the accused. They have not gone to court, are not guilty, and therefore are innocent until they are proven guilty in a court of law.

..."innocent until proven guilty in a court law" has been hotly debated for two centuries...

Originally posted by sdcigarpig
While we may not agree with the punishments or the laws, there has to be some rights of theirs that should be maintained, so that way they get a fair trial.

...the right to a fair and timely trial does not include immunity from the press - never has - with the fairly recent exception of minors and thats often overlooked in especially horrendous crimes or if the minor is a repeat offender or not white and/or priviledged...

omg my wife got a phone call at 11 oclock saying and old high school friend was charged whith federal child pornography charges we still have a hard time beliveing it... she almost whent to prom whith one of the accused , nearly ten years ago
thank God i swept her off her feet and she has not spoke to this now deviant again.
i rember him as well normal jock type very popular crazy thou

reply to post by sdcigarpig


You, of course, are free to have this opinion. However, these names are public record. In fact, the ICE press release named certain ones and mainstream media didn't even bother to include them in their articles. The names are coming from local press coverage in the states these monsters live. We're doing nothing but collecting them in one place.

They can defend themselves in court and either prove themselves innocent in a court of law, or not. For now, they are indicted on charges of crimes that as far as I'm concerned are the worst violent crimes that can take place in our society.

My blog and board covers these cases not only to reveal the "hinky" in evolving cases, but to also focus on the fact that our children have less rights of protection under our country's laws than animals do. In fact, there were laws protecting animal rights before there was ever a law that made abusing a child a crime. They were considered chattel. While we have progressed a great deal from the late 1800's, they still are relegated to a position of chattel of the parents.

You can beat the stuffing out of a 35 year old man and get assault and battery with say 5 to 10 years. If you beat the stuffing out of a 65 year old man that sentence doubles in most states as protection of the elderly. If you beat the stuffing out of a 3 year old you most likely will face no charge, minor neglect, or maybe abuse...all of which have insultingly low sentences. They are the most defenceless members of our society, yet their abuse is treated as trivial compared to other violent crimes.

Case in point an Oklahoma case recently covered on my blog in which a three year old boy was traded to two men so they could rape him. In exchange his caregiver was given meth. This child endured HOURS and HOURS of torture, rape and physical abuse. He was hung from the ceiling with a dog collar around his neck. He lost part of his scalp in the ordeal. Lye and bleach were poured on him and down his throat. He was returned to the babysitter who sold him (who lived in a hotel room with his mother) in this condition. First consider the unimaginable pain this child was in, and what he had endured. His mother is off work now and sees the condition of her son. She leaves him for EIGHTEEN HOURS without seeking medical treatment for him so that she could do the meth with the babysitter that was obtained through the extortion of her own child.

They only had neglect charges against them. 3 to 5 years max. It has only been in the past couple of days that the charge of child endangerment was added. Still no child abuse, no child exploitation, no child prostitution, no attempted murder (because quite frankly I think if you decide to leave a child for 18 hours with the injuries this child had without seeking medical attention you're hoping he'll die and you won't have to deal with it).

So, I understand you don't agree, but the names will continue to be added as they are located.

Also, I would ask. Do you feel the same way about when any other criminal's name is listed in a news article...which happens thousands of times across the U.S. every day. Arrested for robbery. Arrested for DUI. Arrested for embezzlement. Do you kick a fit then?