Civil War?

1. a political party wishing to restore true patriotism under the real untouched constitution, meanwhile we will make the revisions neccessary to set it to date with the modern world.

2. a rebel force that seems to be terrorizing, gov't officials only and isn't killing civis in droves.

3. a very sexy swimsuit team

We have a sexy swim-suit team!? Where!?

Either way it's looked at, the US government is gonna label us as terrorist's ... So, instead of fighting against our government, why not create our own government (sorta) and displace the current one? Just a quick thought. I'm no politician, so I haven't really given much thought to it at all ...

that's what i was hoping to infer by taking control of gov't at a state level such as senate, govenor and congress. it shouldn't be hard for the willing.

sexy swimsuit team, uhhh. anyone got those TaTu chicks phonenumber? and maybe a few others. lol

Why dont we just suceed (sp?) from the union?

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right now i'm pretty sure all the land territoy we occupy is a few homes where we all collectively live. that gives us about 5 sq. miles.

The more people we have, the more land we have.

then we need to get funds. all parties involved should start thinking of a way for us to start a busniess foundation. not a corporation. that wouldn't benefit us. what would benefit us, would be to know what corporations to ally ourselves with. you know who i haven't seen in a while? k_os. i'll have to talk to him.

We just dont want to be mixed up with the wrong people. No terrorist orginizations. Period.

the diffence in the two is that terrorists usually fight with no balls, killing themselves, and fighting towards a goal of general anarchy in order to destroy an enemy larger than itself. it's like the mosquito that flew in your eye.

revolutionaries are a greater threat, and it's been a while since we've seen a jiucy coup d'etat. revolutions win the support of the people to fight the gov't in turn making the feddies themselves the terrorists. warfare on a more silent level such as assassinations and political coups are the icbm's of a revolution.

Im not disputing the fact that were revolutionaries and not terrorists. What I was saying was that even if we are in dire need of support, we must not align ourselves with any terrorist organizations. We will lose all support from the citizens and probably end up getting screwed over in the process.

When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny.

-Thomas Jefferson

It is a responsibility I have taken upon myself, to hold foremost the protection of the People. I am more than willing to trade my life for thiers. I maintain no tolerence for terrorists, cowards and idiots.



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"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

- Samuel Adams, debates of 1776


We'll said.

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ok first we'll all going to need scary halloween masks. then we'll....

the only way to scare the government, is to let them know we don't have to do what they want us to. get the army to lay down their guns, get the people to not work, to not use money and do for themselves. to not obey laws and do what we wish. to let them know that we, the people of this great nation, are more than votes. we ARE america. if it weren't for our ability to do what we wish, we wouldn't be americans. we be prisoners.

Get the army to lay down their guns??? Muahahahahaha! That will never and can never happen. Its not even a possibility.

would the whole army kill the people it fights for? would some not question the orders, and would the commanders, generals, officers, even havet the conscience to order the death of civilians who wish for nothing more than change

"We were just following orders." Does that ring a bell?

it would be nice for the army to lay down their arms, but we should plan on them fighting to the fullest

All too true. Be prepared for the worst. Thats the only way to win.

People in the Armed Forces won't kill thier own families, remember they are us and share many of our views. They are the Patriots that died for your freedom.

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Coming from a long line of military families, I think you're somewhat optomistic about the attitude of the professional military (as opposed to: "guys who were in the military for 6 years or so" ) to the milita.

What single unifying idea do you have to offer to Joe Officeworker that makes it compelling for him or her to support you? YOUR interpretation of the Constitution?

The "Seccede from the Union" has been tried here in Texas in the past 20 years -- several times, in fact, by better organized people with similar ideas and methodology. What they found was that people did NOT back them and were NOT interested -- and they fell apart after a decade or so. At one point they were holding congresses and had elected representatives and so forth.

Ordinary Texans looked on them as fruitcakes... and somewhat dangerous ones with their talk of arms and uprisings and so forth. There was little sympathy for the ones who stepped outside the law and were killed by peace officers.

I'll keep working with the other political party that wants to overthrow the government -- the Democrats. I'm tired of the Republicans!

[Edited on 14-4-2003 by Byrd]