Norway gunman "has accomplices"

reply to post by spacedonk


Thats if the 1500 page manifesto actually is his. In all honesty, if this guy had a privileged upbringing and education, I kinda would have expected more intelligence; all I read was just drivel I'd expect of a teenager at a level of a 14 and 16 year old writing a fiction novel.

reply to post by spacedonk


Hmmmmmm, 8 weeks huh? Enough time for specialist psychiatrists to do their magic?

Whether we allow this guy to have an open public court room or not could mean two things; his truth or the truth we don't want to hear.

Well if they do strike again I am going to take a shot and say they will hit again on 8/1 or 8/2 as it coincides with the Lughnasad.

I am just wondering here why anyone is bothering reading his 1500 page manifesto at all? What about murdering almost 100 people in cold blood should give him any reason to think his tome is any more worth reading than it was the day before he became one of the worlds worst mass murderers?

I don't believe he has accomplices or ever likely has. We'll see as the investigation goes on, but I definitely don't believe he has any organization or history like he's saying he does. Friends perhaps? Who knows...someone may have known something..but he's making himself into looking like the spearhead of some shadowy group working for the greater benefit of society.

Now which is more likely, I wonder. Is it more likely the above is true and he is some Knight among many like minded folks? Or could it be more likely that this is 1500 pages of a deeply disturbed and deranged mind that will always be a threat to society or anyone else within striking distance until the day it dies.


I won't say this man was stupid though. One thing I am catching from the excerpts of his manifesto is an underlying intelligence that is chilling to see when coupled with the unthinkable evil of his actions. He thought this whole thing out to such an extent and level of detail it's staggering. Thank God this man wasn't aiming higher and trying to do far more damage. He was more than capable of it and apparently had the brains to likely succeed. It sounds bad given what he DID do.....but the combination inside this man could have done something 100x's worse just as casually, I fear.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Thats the pitch I'm going along with but Police will have to fix up afew loose ends as to how they knew his name before they arrived on the island and who was this "other" Norwegian dark haired gunman some witnesses allege they saw also on the island or maybe they were in so much shock they saw a ghost?

1500 pages of drivel is too much to bare......half of it was more than I could stand or I'd need a brain transplant to read the rest.

Other Cells???

I would guess that someone with a supremest group found this unstable gunman and saw how he was able to pass as normal and helped him by planing and helped him set up the attack.

Then faded away to laugh at what they got started.

They may have even told him he was a member of a group and his attack was not the only one that would happen.

This allowed them to set back and safely watch the patsy do what they wanted to do without any legal repercussion.

no # the norway gun man has accomplices. You have the k-mart that sold him the gun. The dirty crooked gun shop that sold him the gun a half price without a back round check the taxi driving him to the location and the semi that kindly moved out of his line of fire. Burn them all.

I've only read the first page of this thread I admit but thought Id share the following just in case it hasnt been mentioned yet. Looks like he may not be the last to inflict this sort of suffering and pain to prove a point -

80 solo matyr cells

Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik claims he is part of a network of up to 80 ''solo martyr cells'' of people wanting to overthrow Western governments that tolerate Islam.

The fear that he could send coded messages to associates was reportedly behind the judge's order that Breivik's Oslo District Court appearance last night be closed to the public and the media. Police also feared he might be lynched.

Now, lets put what he did aside for one moment.....just one moment ok?

Lets look at his beleif.

That European/Western governments that tolerate Islam should be over thrown.

What is wrong with this beleif? Is it wrong to want regime change in your own country if you see it going down hill due to the influx of Islamic immigrants that wont assimilate?

Why cannot we have an intelligent discussion/debate about this with screams of racism being thrown about?

Yes, it may be slightly racist, but the priority here is to retain ones national identity. Many people in Europe although disgusted by his actions, do support his cause of ridding Europe of Islamic Immigration.

As we have seen by the many threads on ATS, as a group they do not assimilate into western society and strive to change their new homeland to become more like their own, in tern pi$$ing off the local population.

Im not aggreeing with his methods here, Im asking why can we not discuss his and many others point of view?

Thats probably for another thread which has a great deal of revelance and should be introduced for discussion, but the author definatley risks some brickbats.....As for the accessories to this mans crime, there could well be.
Though it sounds more like hes grasping for more attention by saying this......

reply to post by ANNED


Fact is, he was'nt unstable at all. And thats the scary thing about all of this.

Originally posted by reptiliannogmar
no # the norway gun man has accomplices. You have the k-mart that sold him the ammo. The dirty crooked gun shop that sold him the gun a half price without a back round check the taxi driving him to the location and the semi that kindly moved out of his line of fire. Burn them all.

Originally posted by reptiliannogmar
no # the norway gun man has accomplices. You have the k-mart that sold him the gun. The dirty crooked gun shop that sold him the gun a half price without a back round check the taxi driving him to the location and the semi that kindly moved out of his line of fire. Burn them all.

Lay off the acid man. It's rotting your brain.

There were a fair number of adults on that island, including a member of parliament.  I have heard no heroic tales of these adults going out to catch a bullet meant for a kid.  They included this group:

www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4184561.ece&usg=ALkJrhgg1s1OXgK_xUN-AJ80c9xAcbDtUQ
Norwegian People's Aid(NPA) is an adunct of the Norwegian Labor Movement.  Eight of them were on the island at the time of the shooting.  At least seven survived unscathed. It is unknown why they were there, but their mission statement says "First aid, mountain rescue and disaster preparedness are central tasks for the voluntary groups." (wikipedia)
Their record is not trouble free:  "...a November 1999 television documentary .. allege(s) that NPA-controlled aeroplanes had supplied the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) with 80–100 tonnes of weapons and landmines." This indicates that this NGO(non-governmental organization) may have been penetrated by the covert operators of the intelligence agencies.

I don't think he was a "lone gunman", and I do think he was programmed. I do think he had accomplaces. These are just my opinions, I have only my own conjecture to back them up.

However, on another thread, the poster known as SFA437, provided information that his photos were indeed altered using photoshop and other programs. The one of him in his Masonic outfit looks weird to me. Like someone stuck his head on another body. Which leads me to believe, was he really a Mason Or was he really as involved with the Masons as he is purported to be? Did he even write that Manifesto himself? (I haven't read it, not going to, too long, haha.)

I do think this massacre was planned as part of an agenda, but as to whose agenda ... I really doubt we'll ever know. Personally, I'm just not convinced of the Masonic connection too much, especially after that dodgy photo.

I really don't know, though. I just think the whole thing is extremely shrouded in mystery.

so any new insights on all this?
any accomplices ?

This truth of this matter would be revealed if police released all the initial interviews with witnesses of the slaughter on Utoya. But this they will never do, judging from the amount of early witnesses quoted by media who attested to the presence of at least one or two more shooters.