Ascension: What are “Dimensions

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Why any of this?

I have spent a little time with my higher-self on this question. And the answer is a little hard to make sense of. It seems it is hard for a finite mind to understand the infinite. So my higher-self has provided me with a useful little fiction that helps me to understand this issue. It goes like this:

In the beginning there was nothing. Then the nothingness became conscious of itself. We can paraphrase that dawning awareness as It saying "here I am". And with that first light of self-awareness these arose curiosity, which we can paraphrase as that being asking, "what am I?"

So, "here I am, what am I?" is where the story begins. That being quests to find the answer to the question by creating itself in every possible way that it can. It is everything It can be. It becomes everything It can become. It experiences everything It can experience. And thus it answers the question: "I am THIS".

It is a very simplistic explanation because, of course, there really is no beginning to The Oneness.

This enigma is ever unfathomable, and I certainly don't expect to find the answer any time soon. The age-old "something rather than nothing" question just doesn't quite compute.

Logically, there is considerable difficulty in making a jump from "nothing", to "something". Of course, I honestly can't see any value in a statement that says nothingness became conscious of itself. And on, and on, the idea of no "beginning", all of these things are seemingly impossible to apprehend.

Frankly, I suspect a lot of the difficulty comes from semantics. We can form words, and sentences, and they may not hold any particular logical truth, even though they may sound good. But even here, I wouldn't want to be too prematurely dismissive, because there may be some actual metaphysical "substance" contained even within our feeble attempts to grasp the ungraspable. Our formulations may ultimately fail, but for some reason we don't conclude that our questions were unreasonable. Of course, perhaps they are. If we had the wisdom of many lifetimes, perhaps we might get to a point where we no longer ask questions at all, not because we would have already learned all the answers, but because we would know that there are no answers.

That's a bit bothersome of course, and does seem to go against our nature, but we're here nonetheless.

I always find it a bit interesting when it comes to the "pantheistic" perspective, if I could provisionally call it that, but there is persistently something that eludes, and it seems to come down to "person".

In your reply, you describe primordial awareness with the declaration, "here I am", and a subsequent "curiosity" that seeks to know "what am I", with the end-goal finally being "I am THIS". In each case, personhood is assumed, by using the "I". If so, then logically there is a greater question, that is, "Who am I?"

Perhaps this will look like splitting hairs to some, but maybe you could comment on it anyway, if you have additional information regarding this. And I'm not trying to push to "god" necessarily, I realize there are quite a few that prefer notions of an "impersonal" universe, but based on the shall we say, "final" characteristics of this being, it would seem that he / she / it would have most of the characteristics we typically associate with deity, including, at least in some sense, existence from all eternity.

Thanks Zingdad, I commend you again, I very much appreciate your engaging style of writing.

JR

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Zingdad:

Greetings, may peace be with you.

Thank you for the manner in which you present the Ascension material. Your OP is outstanding. I have sent you a U2U message and look forward to your response.

Regards and Nameste,

-Chung

What an absolute gem of a thread! S & F! Thank you! I asked my higher self when I can get the hell out of here and I was told that what I am doing here is necessary so that my "Class" can graduate. Because of your thread, I have a better understanding. Namaste.tres cool amigo's.

Zingdad-
Really great stuff.
Can you give me your opinion on entheogens and their ability to switch on "God Mode" at will for some people?
And why don't they work this magic on all who use them?

If I could give the whole world my experiences....it would be a very different Reality indeed.

See my post - "Spiritual Enlightenment- A taste of what it's like" for background info.

Stirred up 17 pages of replies- what quite fun.

Thanks!
-Boypony

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Thank you for bringing this thread "Spiritual Enlightenment- A taste of what it's like" to my attention.

Namaste.

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I realised most of the things you had explained while being on acid...I saw myself being everything and everybody and being aware that I'm "dreaming". At first i felt extraordinary but then I remembered that I'm still ALONE...and since then I had this big problem ...THE PROBLEM......

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I have found myself writing material that comes to the same conclusions as the OP in the last few weeks, actually it has been a process that has come about over years through a curiosity about physics. A recent reply I left on Ken Carey's new blog is very similar, though, it is very very rough and not framed in such a spiritual way. I have altered it a tiny bit it to remove the parts that do not fit in this context and I am going to post it here because I feel it fits in with this thread. I wrote this about a week ago and I have never seen the OP's material or really any that comes to similar conclusions so bluntly, though, after seeing these possibilities it does seem that many works may allude to similar ideas. Here are those 2 posts:


(This was in answer to a question about Mach's principle) My understanding as far as Mach's principle is concerned is that it is a vague idea which inspired Einstein's general theory of relativity. In its simplest form it questions the relationship between movement and/or inertia on Earth, eg a person spinning, to the observed motion or inertia of the universe,eg spinning person sees stars spinning, The idea as embodied by Einstein was that everything is relative and that the only way to know the speed or inertia of A is to relate it to B, in contrast, Newton believed there was an absolute time and space. The conclusions I have come to are due to contemplating the opposite of Einstein's relativity where there was only 1 undifferentiated object and nothing else to relate that object to (note added: this would be the Multiverse or eternity and also 0 dimensions). In that case no information on the object could be gained, its speed, rotation, movement and time would not exist. If this state of existence exists, I believe it could be considered the the all, the nothing, this would exist completely past the rational minds ability to comprehend, along with anything that is truly timeless. These conceptions are fallible and conceptual imaginings of Eternity.


I also believe the "individual identity" of everything is dependent on another definition in order for a relative differentiation of identity to come into being, for both. In the case of the Creator though, no relationship and differentiation exists, "there is no distinction" "there is no time but eternal now", just Being in the All/Nothing. The differentiation of identity is analogous to the relativity of Einstein, the necessity of contrast, relationship, and a concentrated focus while the Creator is the Absolute, more in line with Newton's theories of absolute time and space, that is unrelatable, undifferentiated, without need of focus and much more subtle (something that can only be experienced). I believe Classical physics and Quantum physics hint at these different aspects of creation. I do not believe anyone has physics precisely right today, just as no time in history has ever had their respective "science"/"beliefs" right. I am completely willing to accept that in an eternal and infinite Creation there is infinite depth and subtlety to science, art, music, philosophy and possibly a myriad of other categories of creativity, ones that possibly merge those different branches and even others that are yet to even be discovered.


(This was written and sent after and is more pertinent) I have to say I do not believe in the "heat death of the universe". I believe the Universe has expansion/contraction cycles and that the big crunch fuels the big bang and the big bang fuels the expansion and the eventual contraction that occurs after the maximum expansion is reached leading again to the big crunch, ad infinitum. I currently wonder if the All/Nothing may be all of the expansion/contraction cycles of the Universe throughout eternity/infinity experienced in one moment "where there is no time but eternal now", an experience of eternity now. What would this be like? As I said above I do not think this could be comprehended rationally nor remembered consciously, it could only be experienced, it is far too big to hold in the conscious mind. Conceptually though, I think this would contain all experiences and awareness throughout eternity/infinity within an undifferentiated energy/light/mass "Multiverse", since it is all of the expansion/contraction cycles in one moment, it stands to reason it would contain all the energy/mass that has ever existed wherever it has existed all contained now, in one moment, it would therefore be completely full and would be homogeneous or undifferentiatable (added: the same as 0 dimensions because they are both unrelatable as in the Mach's principle paragraph above). A focus on a slice of this undifferentiated "Universe", such as linear moments within 1 expansion/contraction cycle, would create the experience of time, as one moment was related to the next and so on, instead of all of undifferentiated eternity being experienced now.

Along with this I also sometimes wonder if light has a timeless nature. If time goes forward at speeds less than light, slows as light speed is reached and theoretically goes backwards when light speed is passed, then what happens at the speed of light when relating light to matter? The current observations of lightspeed relative to time indicate time would stop at lightspeed. If light does have a timeless nature then one photon (Added: or the smallest piece of energy in other words, 0 dimensional energy) could travel through all existence in a moment being everywhere at once (Added: it would therefore be 0 dimensions and the All/Nothing of eternity at the same time), if that is the case maybe the rest of the physical laws of the differentiated Universe flow from light through attraction and repulsion principles, while at the same time the differentiated Universe is just a slice of the undifferentiated energy/light/mass "Multiverse" which has always existed, with the differentiated Universe being an aspect manifested, focused on and divided from the eternal undifferentiated whole through awareness. (Added: Part of this was inspired by a book called "When Zero Equals Infinity (God's Math)")

These are just ideas I wonder about and do not get to attached too because getting too attached to concepts limits growth and potential, in my opinion. I thought some might find these ideas interesting and at the very least, hopefully, imaginative enough to get some people to wonder.

Bump!!!

This thread seems too good to die at 2 pages.

On the other hand I'm having issues with the concept of freewill and whether it even exists. I cannot see how it could. every thought we have and action we take seems to me to be predetermined by the circumstance one finds themselves in and the hardwiring of the brain.

If this is so then would that not preclude your 5th Dimension. Interested to hear your thoughts on this.

Zingdad, I'm so glad to see you here. I purchased your book for download 2 months ago and I have to say it really helped me think of things in a completely different light. I've recommended your book to a few friends and family who are struggling with understanding the "why" of it all. I started my journey toward ascension over a year ago and I keep finding pieces of the puzzle along the way. Yours by far was one of the most memorable and biggest pieces for me. It gave me a lot of peace inside and peace with how I see the world. It's changed the way I look at life, love, hate and "evil".

I want to thank you so much for Book 1 and I really cannot wait for Book 2. Do you know when you will be releasing it?

Amazing OP. Amazing.

Is there anywhere I can download your writings on PDF without an exchange of cash?

Peace&Love.

Dimensions= perspectives...that's the simplest way I can put it.


They are different avenues of experience, different ways of perceiving according to your level of understanding.