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Military-Inmate Complex. Making US Patriot Missiles for .23 cents/hour - VIDEO

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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Slave labor was abolished in the U.S. after the Civil War. A captive workforce is slave labor. With the advent of the Patriot Act it's increasingly difficult to tell who is in prison anymore and why. With DNA testing refined there are people in the news every month being let out after their claims of innocence are verified. With the three strikes law in states like CA inmates are people who should be in rehab. With the DMV's in various states suspending licenses for failure to pay support, the captive workforce grows. There are psychotics in prison but should these be working on Patriot Missiles? There are people in prison who are a danger to society but should that make them slaves when slavery is illegal?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Inmate Labor is a Con - stitutional loophole the corporate government is now exploiting to the fullest. Soon there'll be a 'war on farming', 'war on criminal driving', 'war on gun owners', 'war on internet users', 'war on Constitutionalists', etc. to fill up the FEMA camps AND PUT AMERICA BACK TO WORK...

So all you unemployed Americans... need a job?

Got a clue yet America?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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Does the government use inmates to make military equipment? Yes

However it should be known that the company is call DSCP and all the inmates working are MILITARY CRIMINALS. They make uniforms (with horrible stitching) and patches but they aren't slaves. They do not have any constitutional rights at all (you sign them away when you join) and so technically they can be treated how ever the government seems fit. Actual Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airman make and put together bombs and weapons systems usually the specific branches Ammo MOS. Your video either has a bad source or is just entirely incorret



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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Do you have any sourcing?

This story is widely published and I would be interested if you could provide something to refute the claims.

Thanks for you input.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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I dont know how to post links on here but ill try
and im at work dont know how well itll work out but ill try.

The company that makes all the parts for the patriot missile is Raytheon and they have the contract for it with DoD (you can google it and see their own buisness page or use the FoIA to request a copy of their contract)

Its also a well known fact you cant come anywhere near a weapons system with out have atleast a Secret Clearance. let alone what you need to put them together (I was an EOD in the airforce I put the fuses into munitions before they were used. I know first hand what kind of clearances and education are needed to even touch a "dumb bomb")

The company they claim makes these missiles is Unicor. Unicor makes furiniture and recycles electronics and such. No where other than peoples claioms can it be found they do anything but that. Also while i was in the USAF i ordered several desks and chairs for my office from Unicor (Unicor Website/Wiki)

I dont know if I answered any questions you had with this and im sorry I dont have actual links, but i hope you dont think im just denying they would do this im just letting everyone know they currently dont do this



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:06 AM
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Well, the trouble is obvious, and it's one that has face every nation that has used prison labor.

It's profitable. Damn profitable. 23 cents an hour, doing a job that for any other employee would demand a damned hefty wage? That's Scrooge McDuck money being made, there. And with that kind of easy profit comes corruption.

With so much money to be made from the system, isn't there more pressure to make more arrests, more incentive to deliver guilty verdicts? Remember former judge and current felon, Mark Ciavarella who was packing kids off to juvenile detention centers in every single case he got because of the kickbacks he got for doing so?

The police-Judicial-prison system is already staggeringly corrupt. we don't need to encourage it further.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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I suppose law enforcement in the states where this is taking place will be looking for skilled labor criminals to lock up, or electricians, or programmers.

I see this as a potential growth industry



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Lockheed denies the allegation.



We have been in contact with the U.S. Army Aviation & Missile Command Lower Tier Project Office, who is responsible for the Patriot missile program, and have received confirmation that absolutely no part or component produced by Unicor is being or has ever been used in the PAC-3 Missile, of which Lockheed Martin is the prime contractor.

The U.S. Army Lower Tier Project Office has made an official, written request of Unicor to remove all references to the PAC-3 Missile from its Web site as soon as possible.


www.minyanville.com...

Still doesn't explain why Unicor had to be told to remove all references.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by BMags... Actual Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airman make and put together bombs and weapons systems usually the specific branches Ammo MOS. Your video either has a bad source or is just entirely incorret


I can't speak of the other branches, but the Air Force Airman do not make and put together weapons systems. The systems arrive from the contractor as a unit. From that point, Airman maintain and repair some of the components while others are sent to Depot for maintenance. And two of the systems I worked were produced by Westinghouse and Ford. So before you say that a company doesn't produce something, you need to make sure that they aren't doing so through some division or acquired company of a different name. The good family who owned Gates Rubber Company sold the company and rights to use the name to a British company called Tomkins.

And while it is true that you normally have to have a Secret Clearance to work with the system as a whole, this isn't always true for something as simple as a wiring bundle. That's just basically wires and connectors which are simple and straight forward. It works or it doesn't. Again, once in service, the Airman maintain them, but we don't make the initial bundle.

As for prisons being slave labor, I don't agree. If they don't work at all, they still have meals, housing, electricity and other so called extras that we wouldn't have if we became unemployed. I have a brother in jail for murder. The prison he's in makes uniforms for the various sheriff depts and prisoners. They aren't paid anything in the way of cash. Instead, the state takes a day off their sentence. That's all well and good if you're not in jail for life w/o parole like my brother is. So if he gets any money, it comes from me or other family members. And when did prisons become about being fair. The purpose is supposed to be to punish them. Is my brother where he belongs? Yes. And I think he should consider himself lucky that he has a chance to get out of his cell. If you want to do hard time, try being locked up for 23 hours a day with nothing to do. Just my thoughts.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
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yeah those are really slave wages when they get free room and board free food free healthcare

and all they have to do is make a wiring harness.


someone in this thread just love to sensationalize things.


Precisely. The convicts do have rights but not to the point as others think they should be on this thread when they are in much much better place (TV, exercise, games, food, clothes, individual bed and bathroom, showers etc etc) then other international prison system (especially third world countries).

To be honest I have known individuals in certain segments of the population in New Jersey who took a VACATION (Going to prison) as it was convenient and free with all the available facilities that they couldn't afford on the outside. Such is the poverty and mentality in the crime infested towns.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by EyeHeartBigfoot
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I am looking at it from a different perspective.

If the prisoners are to work for low wages, shouldn't they do something to help out their victim and/or society.
i.e. paying their debt to society

My issue is with the vast unemployment, our tax dollars going to the Military Industrial Complex and then having the MIC profit further from war by not creating jobs by using prison labor.

I agree. However the video is misleading and upto certain extent lacks the credibility (RT...go figure).

Not all the prisoners are dangerous. Part of the prison system is to punish and educate. The wages (however low) earned by the prisoner can also be used to purchase few items for personal use such as candies, cigarettes or snacks from the prison store. The money will be coming right back to the prison administrator with some profit in addition to money earned from factory contracts. The prisons are in really bad shape due to fundings in the US. Many states have let go of low profile prisoners due to budget crunch.

But the effort to maintain normalcy and self esteem in a prisoner by making them work and earn a living even in prison will be therapeutic upto certain extent (even though it does not help all the time for repeated offenders).
Hopefully the one's that are not in for LIFE but short term (1 to 15 years) can take this lesson and change their life around when released from the prison.

But you are right that the manufacturing sector in US can use jobs too.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
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Well, the trouble is obvious, and it's one that has face every nation that has used prison labor.

It's profitable. Damn profitable. 23 cents an hour, doing a job that for any other employee would demand a damned hefty wage? That's Scrooge McDuck money being made, there. And with that kind of easy profit comes corruption.

With so much money to be made from the system, isn't there more pressure to make more arrests, more incentive to deliver guilty verdicts? Remember former judge and current felon, Mark Ciavarella who was packing kids off to juvenile detention centers in every single case he got because of the kickbacks he got for doing so?

The police-Judicial-prison system is already staggeringly corrupt. we don't need to encourage it further.

True. Chances are as these pitfalls do exist.

I'm sure there are many rotten apples in the bunch but overall it can be a good thing for few sectors of the private and government industries. I personally feel that the dangerous bad ass criminals should be trained and sent to the front line and guerilla warfare. If they survive then they can be released with a payroll officer assigned to them for few years. The not so dangerous ones can be used to cleanup the streets, parks and highways where we have another major problem with pollution of plastics, metals and glasses (which is a big industry as well).

In other words..no FREEBIES



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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This has been going on for years. Hasn't anyone questioned why the prison population keeps growing while the crime rate goes down even with all the new laws being passed everyday. More laws more criminals. Why do you think the prisons are going private. Private prisons make no sense to begin with. The inmates are now actually being detained by and for corporate entities. Where is the out cry where is the outcry. Why do you think that actual criminals are let loose at an alarming rate while non violent offenders are kept there for years? They are much easier to control inmate populations. FEMA camps the new future of the US workers of the banksters, by the banksters and for the banksters. While everyone is so worried about what they are going to lose by the debt crisis. Answer you have nothing to lose this is your future, your familys future Welcome to the NWO.



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