Texan mistakenly arrested for burglarizing his own home on trial just the same

Your mean burgling? I don't think burglarizing is a word

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how is it ` racist ` to ask if he spoke english - in english

sorry - it makes perfect sense to me - if they do speak english - they will understand

Originally posted by NadaCambia
Your mean burgling? I don't think burglarizing is a word

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This just shows a bit of abuse of power to me, ok fair enough the guy didn't speak english but surely the officers in question would have seen photos of some sort to link the guy to the home.

o dpn't recall them saying this guy was illrgal just he didnot speak english maybe he is classic term dumb also known as mute. they said he had mind of child so nif a hadicapped person cant speak for himself then he must be guilty.. not.
i would say let the guy go then investigate caller and see if thewy got a beef with this family and if they do then bring them up on charges and fine the crap out of them to reimburse the victim for damages.

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).






Simply put, this guy should hire a lawyer, appeal, and file suit.

[Police ALWAYS press charges against people they mistakenly arrest.

They do this under the principle "The best defense is a good offense."

Reminds me of waco. The govt burned alive 85 americans including 25 or so kids and not clinton or reno or the fbi or the atf was ever held accountable. But 7 of the survivors of the inferno were sent to prison!!!!

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I was born and raised in this town; this doesnt surprise me in the least bit. Aside from the paper mill and the candy factory there are really only three professions in Lufkin:
Crooked, egotistical cops; fat lawyers, and fast food joints to feed the first two.

Needless to say, I got out of that town as soon as I could

Originally posted by BIGPoJo

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
There's a big problem when anybody can just phone in an order for you to be tackled and assaulted.

The FBI estimates hundreds of "swatting" incidents occur each year.

Just about anybody can use the cops as their own personal vengeance machine the way they are "obligated" to investigate every ludicrous claim and the way they "investigate" with kicking in doors guns drawn.

Or how about CPS for that matter? Just had someone call CPS on me, I am a good parent and there is no abuse. They called CPS to cause me personal grief. CPS proceeded to crawl up my rear with a microscope. They did not find anything wrong but now that I am in the system I am pissed.

CPS took my child. They insist that I am a hoarder. My attorney sides with them. I have stockpiled some canned goods for preps, but I have them neatly stacked in crates.

These people get grant money for each child they place into the system. They will lie and twist everything said and even say you said stuff you didn't say. And you can do nothing about it.

You are very lucky that they didn't take your children.

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This is what my place looked like during the last home visit. The worker said I am a hoarder. She pointed out the computer cords and stuff insisting that I was a hoarder and not in compliance with the court order to get therapy for hoarding. It's in the court papers that I am a hoarder. The judge went along with what they said and said straight out that she didn't care about my constitutional rights (they physically forced their way in without a warrant, assaulting me in the process) and she didn't care if what they said wasn't true. She came out and said that.

If I am a hoarder, the tea party and preppers often have more stuff stockpiled than I do. I often got flack and quoted bible verses for not prepping more by those people. Why aren't their kids being taken too? It's ridiculous. But my so called mental illness (hoarding) is what they are using to keep my child from me, and they are using it to send her to live with a man who hasn't had legal visitation rights to her since she was a baby. His visitation rights were terminated because he wrote letters describing how he was going to kill me and my daughter and lick the blood up with his tongue and the judge felt him too violent. He is a government employee though, so they all think he is wonderful. Even though he denies doing anything wrong (he even insisted to one judge that the letters weren't all that bad as she was reading them) they will say he did nothing wrong out of one side of their mouths and insist that he's changed out of the other side of their mouths. You cannot change if you won't even acknowledge that you've done anything wrong!

They started off using the ptsd against me, but they dropped that because they also kept insisting that I was delusional and no abuse happened (because they want to send her with him). So then they went with the nonexistant hoarding and not bringing up ptsd anymore. I have had a federal disability judge accept reports of my ptsd and grant me ssi to give me time to work on getting myself better. I had a relapse after I tried to do an autoethnography thesis on domestic violence and was having to relive the experiences. I was doing very well before that happened. I wasn't a threat to anyone though. I had panic attacks/flashbacks but I mostly just cried and isolated myself when I'd be triggered. PTSD is a psychological injury instead of a mental illness though. But they are wanting to downplay the ptsd to help one of their own get custody of a child he didn't even help raise. I am described now as a delusional hoarder who brainwashed my child against her father (who wasn't even around in the first place). Before he was forced to pay child support, he had even told people for a while that she wasn't his! But of course, it's all my fault. LOL I was even blamed because he got fired from one government job for attacking his female superviser! I wasn't even there! It's always my fault. When he did visit with her, he'd inflict injuries on her and say it was my fault for leaving him. Yeah, my wife left me, so I'll pepperspray the baby. That's normal. He's never had to face real consequences for anything he's ever done. Me, not only do I get punished for what I do, I get punished for stuff I didn't do and stuff that others do to me and my child.

If my ex weren't working for the government, I wonder what they'd be thinking about him then. Shame I'll never know.

There is no justice. We don't really have any rights. The government declared war on us years ago and most people don't even realize it.

And these CPS workers may seem nice to you, but they will lie to your face with a smile. Don't let your guard down just because they seem nice. I wouldn't wish my nightmare on anyone. I've seen them smile to others and tell them everything is fine, only to have them come back hours later with the cops to take your kids. No one I have ever known to have their kids taken has ever gotten them back, and they all jumped through the hoops they were given. They did all they legally could to get their kids back. And they were all taken over frivilous, nonviolent stuff that could've been resolved by other means. None of them were actually child abusers.

It's ridiculous what happened to this man, but these things more and more fail to surprise me. They just add more to what I already feel about this life. I was lied to since I was a small child about equal rights and all kinds of other things. I find out more and more stuff that I was lied to about all the time. I guess the guy is lucky they didn't just shoot him. That's what happened to Diablo I think his name was up in New York. They just gunned him down.

I seriously don't know why so many immigrate here though thinking that they will have a better life. The police state gets worse and worse. I know some immigrants that want to go home because it's so bad here. The USA isn't what the fantasy makes it out to be. I don't really think there's much difference in any of the countries anymore. Some just hide reality better than others.

The more and more I see, the more I am an anarchist. I don't want any government to have power over me ever again. I used to be a diehard republican. I used to be totally loyal to this country. But the more that happens to me and others, the more I am broken of that. My experiences have shaped me into a totally different person than that naive teenager I was when this nightmare began for me. I no longer believe that telling the truth will guarantee you a win. I told the truth for years and no one cared. The truth doesn't set you free. The truth gets you beaten more. They don't care about the truth. All they care about is maintaining power over you and shoving their boots down your throat.

My daughter is going to live with a man who beat me and was going to set fire to me. I have been living in a state of fear for my child's life. My daughter was a very rebellous teenager, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. He has said many times that he would kill her and/or make sure I'd never see her again. He's at least tried to make good on other threats. I am terrified. If he does what he has said he'd do then the government will have her blood on their hands.

I hope this man's lawyers appeal the conviction. It just shows how corrupt everything is in this country.