India: An Aryan Conspiracy, Ancient Technology and Secret Brotherhoods

Seems to me that these ancients had access to the Vril force or weapon.
Some sort of scalar stuff and I have a sneaky suspicion that the russians have it
in the present day russia.

Originally posted by lisa2012

Originally posted by Harte

Originally posted by lisa2012
Yes this is what they want you to believe that they were modifications of the hieroglyphs over time and all those modifications resulted in that amazing display of modern machinery.

Absurd.

The glyphs shown on that panel are used in various different (and same) contexts all over ancient Egypt.

Go to this page:
Link

Scroll down to glyph D36 - it's not far down. Now look at D46 just below it.

You can find the rest of them there too. Assuming you care about the truth and aren't invested in maintaining your existence in a fantasy land.

Harte

First of all I do not know who is living in the Fantasy Land?

I do. It's you. Definitely.

Originally posted by lisa2012

Read This

Definition of PALIMPSEST
1
: writing material (as a parchment or tablet) used one or more times after earlier writing has been erased
2
: something having usually diverse layers or aspects apparent beneath the surface

This is what you claim it to be.

Well:

Egyptians Knew the Golden Section - Reconstruction as Proof

Contrary to being chaotic, the Abydos Helicopter scene is a deliberate creation. Its order is of the highest magnitude, being based on the historically famous Golden Section. The palimpsest explanation is simply out of the question, because one can just fire up a CAD program, and easily recreate the area under the helicopter in its exact main proportions from memory. The engraving utilizes Geometry, and the layout of the area is a variation on the basic Golden Section, wih emphasis on Golden Rectangles. The measure of ability to produce a given item measures understanding of that item. Pure opinions are hard to measure.
To begin with, golden rectangles in the area are quite auspicious, and beg testing. To test the area under the helicopter for golden section proportions I had assumed the semicircle's diameter as the starting unit for the construction below.

The fact that you can find golden rectangles in your own view of the "panel" is beside the point. Also, there is no "panel" to measure.

It's a header running the length of that side of the room:


I'm aware that the Egyptians knew the golden rectangle. Are you aware that this is not advanced mathematics?

A golden rectangle, and thus the quantity phi, can be constructed with a compass and straightedge.

I've shown you the glyphs on wiki. Do you need to see them in pictures taken at other sites in Egypt?

Have you ever heard of the "Five-Fold Titulary?"

Harte

Originally posted by Hanslune
However the claim was that a layer of glass was an indicator of a nuclear explosion; if usually isn't but the key point is that there is nothing UNDER the glass.

What's been left unsaid is that a meteor can fuse glass, even in areas where the meteor didn't hit the ground.

A meteor coming in from low on the horizon can roast literally everything under it along it's path. That could leave a trail of fused sand a hundred miles long or more.

I'd like to point out that the source of the green glass found in the desert (in Libya - this is the green glass found in Tut's tomb, among other places) appears to have been found. I posted it here at ATS years ago when the crater was discovered.

Harte

Originally posted by lisa2012
I Loved this Thread so much I made a PDF with the Initial post and all other interesting additions by the members. It contains the links and references.

Thanks Lisa got those added to my data base. Saves me the time of doing that...

Haven't seen you around since that Romanian thread

Originally posted by lisa2012
This is why we still do not get what happened in ancient times is because they tell you they build the pyramids with a round stones and a chisels and you believe it.

A few days ago I laid some patio stones... using a hammer and a steel chisel I had to trim some of the stones. These stones were made of poured cement, relatively soft... yet getting them to cut along perfect straight lines in impossible

Yet archaeologists want you to believe that the Egyptians cut huge solid granite blocks so smooth that a razor won't fit between the stones using round rocks and COPPER chisels... and did it very fast considering how many blocks they used to make the GP in such a short (claimed) time frame.

Well here is my challenge I want someone to cut a 1 foot square granite block nice and smooth and square with a round rock and copper chisel... When that is done, we can talk about how the Egyptians did this..

Any of you armchair archaeologists up to the task? Hmmm?

Thought not... heck I would be satisfied if you could make just one flat smooth surface that way

Originally posted by Hanslune
However the claim was that a layer of glass was an indicator of a nuclear explosion; if usually isn't but the key point is that there is nothing UNDER the glass.

There was nothing under the Nevada desert where they dropped the nukes either... yet the glass is there...

Originally posted by Harte
That could leave a trail of fused sand...
.. appears to have been found.

could... appears... point is your not sure and will grasp any theory that fits your belief. The scientists are not sure either...

Originally posted by zorgon

A few days ago I laid some patio stones... using a hammer and a steel chisel I had to trim some of the stones. These stones were made of poured cement, relatively soft... yet getting them to cut along perfect straight lines in impossible

The key word for your failure is 'concrete'......

Yet archaeologists want you to believe that the Egyptians cut huge solid granite blocks so smooth that a razor won't fit between the stones using round rocks and COPPER chisels... and did it very fast considering how many blocks they used to make the GP in such a short (claimed) time frame.

Strawman much Zorgon? No archaeologist has made such a claim. I find it odd that you would say that as you know that not to be true. Copper tools were not used to cut granite, just a reminder since you seemed to have forgotten, lol. They split the stones using pressure or bash them out - as have other cultures. I would post a link to how they did it but you've already seen those and you appear to just deny the information in them.

Thought not... heck I would be satisfied if you could make just one flat smooth surface that way

Offer a prize of say, 250,000 dollars to anyone who can take a piece of Aswan granite and smooth it using sand, diorite bashers and other techniques - since you think this is impossible (without having tried it) you shouldn't loose the money.....

Originally posted by zorgon


There was nothing under the Nevada desert where they dropped the nukes either... yet the glass is there...

Oh my what a poor dodge, lol, are you saying these nukes were fired to destroy empty desert? You have posted literary evidence that things you THINK are nuclear weapons were used to destroy cities and people. So why isn't there anything under the green glass? Why nothing around the edges? Where is the evidence of a city being hit?

Originally posted by Hanslune
Where is the evidence of a city being hit?

Beneath that layer of radioactive ash we were discussing earlier... most likely

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Hanslune
Where is the evidence of a city being hit?

Howdy Zorgon

Beneath that layer of radioactive ash we were discussing earlier... most likely

Lets try again, I'll make it very, very simple

1. You claim that green glass is proof of a nuclear strike in the ancient world

2. I question why there is nothing underneath the glass layer, (how thick is it again?)

3. You appear to be dancing to avoid admitting you have no evidence

4. You also appear to mixing up the two sites, one in India and the one in Africa - there is no ash under the one in Africa

5. Provide evidence of what is under the the green glass, and also explain why there is no sign of a city; your opinion doesn't count.

Thanks

Oh and did you forget to answer these ten questions? (noting that you are addressing one in part, about the green glass)

The ten questions

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While I don't disagree with your comment I do disagree that you should discount my link because of the title.

Also, while my wiki link states that the book the information was taken from is called

Samarangana Sutradhara of Bhojadeva : An Ancient Treatise on Architecture, 2 Vols. (2007), ISBN 8171103022.

it clearly states:

In 83 chapters, subjects treated are town planning, house architecture, temple architecture and sculptural arts together with Mudras (the different hand poses and the poses of the body as well as the postures of legs), the canons of painting, and a chapter on the art of mechanical contrivances, the yantras (chapter 31).

This chapter on yantras has attracted the attention of many people looking for other things beyond mere science too [1] Verses 95-100 mentions bird-shaped aerial cars (Vimanas), and verses 101-107 mention a sort of robots acting as guards.

The texts obviously deal with more than architecture.

So, until I obtain a copy or find an online version (losing hope of that one due to many dead ends) I have to use the info I do have available to me. The above information alone raises my eyebrow.

Originally posted by LightAssassin

So, until I obtain a copy or find an online version (losing hope of that one due to many dead ends) I have to use the info I do have available to me. The above information alone raises my eyebrow.

Yes I cannot find a online version either. Will try the Uni library Monday. However Harte is correct on the title.

Literary references to x or y do not 'prove' they existed; ancient text are no more reliable than modern ones for making upp imaginary or wishful claims.

Oh and for your future study; you might want to look at the history of Hindu mythological wars

reply to post by Hanslune


'History'

As in the similarities between the Gods of Hindu and Greek/Roman mythology. Please, give me a more concise direction if you want to offer advice.

Originally posted by LightAssassin
reply to post by Hanslune

 

'History'

As in the similarities between the Gods of Hindu and Greek/Roman mythology. Please, give me a more concise direction if you want to offer advice.

Here is a summary (of sorts) in a link below: One of the problem with the 'quotes' is that they are taken out of context. Same problem arises if you try to prove that the Greek gods existed by selective quotes from Homer.

Hindu mythological wars

The 'Devastras' may be of interest

Originally posted by LightAssassin
reply to post by Harte

 

While I don't disagree with your comment I do disagree that you should discount my link because of the title.

Not the title of the page. The outright lie about the title of the book.

Originally posted by LightAssassin
Also, while my wiki link states that the book the information was taken from is called

Samarangana Sutradhara of Bhojadeva : An Ancient Treatise on Architecture, 2 Vols. (2007), ISBN 8171103022.

it clearly states:

In 83 chapters, subjects treated are town planning, house architecture, temple architecture and sculptural arts together with Mudras (the different hand poses and the poses of the body as well as the postures of legs), the canons of painting, and a chapter on the art of mechanical contrivances, the yantras (chapter 31).

This chapter on yantras has attracted the attention of many people looking for other things beyond mere science too [1] Verses 95-100 mentions bird-shaped aerial cars (Vimanas), and verses 101-107 mention a sort of robots acting as guards.

The texts obviously deal with more than architecture.

I believe I agreed to as much in my previous post.

As I said, I don't deny the parts about vimanas and automatons are in there.

However, because your source lies about what the book is actually about, I consider your source to be undependable at best, and total crap at worst.

Is there some problem with this?

I mean, what if someone claimed that the Bible was entitled "How to make a paper airplane."

To me, whoever wrote such a claim would be utterly untrustworthy.

What would you think?

Harte

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by lisa2012
I Loved this Thread so much I made a PDF with the Initial post and all other interesting additions by the members. It contains the links and references.

Thanks Lisa

got those added to my data base. Saves me the time of doing that...

Haven't seen you around since that Romanian thread

Hi Zorgon yes I have actually updated my thread www.abovetopsecret.com... it I should have entitled mine Romania Ancient Technology and Secrets is still interesting though S&F for the OP here great Thread.

Good thread.

Will re-visit later on.

Howdy Light Assassin

I had no luck finding a translation of that document - how about yourself?

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You said:

Originally posted by Harte
I seem to recall sometime in the past discovering that "Battlefield Commander" is not how that title translates. IIRC, "Samarangana Sutradhara" actually translates as "An Architect of Human Dwellings."

This leads me to discount anything your link may say about it.

Provide me a link of your translation of the words 'Samarangana Sutradhara', please, so your comments can hold more weight otherwise it is your word against the word of an author, who to believe?

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Hey mate, yeh I'm going to purchase a copy. Seems the only way to get my hands on one.