The Foundation of ATS and Truth Setting You Free

Words are what we use here in this place.

As we swing the pendulum of our mind, it works its way between idea and realization. This movement of thought is continually refining our beliefs by the words that enter our minds. Words and ideas have the power to move our actions with a second swing of the pendulum between contradiction and truth. Truth also comes in a second form. Counterfeit truth is merely truth wrapped in misdirection away from the truth it misuses as its vehicle to the mind. The trick then becomes unwrapping the counterfeit from the true message; the counterfeit messenger from the true holder of truth.

As you consider contradictions, realize this method and see the truth caught in the middle. Only one Word in this world is true. You know it by the fruit it bears. You see it in disguise as it is misused by the counterfeit intent of others. Unwrap it from the false messenger and see it as it is. The Word is there and His enemy is the master deceiver. The narrow path ends when the swing of the mind's pendulum ends in this final realization. Truth is there waiting, right back where He started, in love and truth with His Word, reflecting truth to the mirror of the mind's eye..

The video suggests that God is merely a false word like any other. I would like you to see that He is the only Word to show the way, the truth and the life. Don’t allow the counterfeit version to steal your mind. The true enemy is not the one holding pure truth. The true enemy is the counterfeit version. Any man or false messenger will do in the deception that seeks to divide and conquer the masses.

The goal of ATS is revealing the work of the true enemy we must vanquish. See the Words as they truly are. Words are all we have in the end. Faith, Hope and Love is what remains when we eliminate the counterfeit from the real. This is the only (s)word we need.

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I didn't understand the point at the end of the video,

I hope you get some comments,

Benny Hinn as an example? The man is a lunatic... and charlatan... has been for yrs. At least he is great for parody videos and jokes.
Anyhoo.. the truth? The truth is great.. but in reality all it has done is removed my precious rose tinted glasses off and revealed the ugly. Bah.

Here.. laugh. Its all you have left when you know even a fraction of the truth

reply to post by Advantage


I don't know where the conversation is going so I will wait.

reply to post by SuperiorEd


OK, so lets go with the false messenger, do you think they know they are a false messengers?

Perhaps even though what they are teaching is untrue, they believe it.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Yes, I think they know but bury this knowledge from themselves.

See how easily they seem to accept how unlike the Way, the Truth and the Life, their lives are!

reply to post by SuperiorEd


Hi SuperiorEd, I didn't watch the vid. Is Hinn teaching about the use of words to manipulate people and how to counter the dangers or is he using manipulative techniques to garner support for himself and his mission?

thanks

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I didn't understand the point at the end of the video,

I hope you get some comments,

I do not agree with the intent of the video. What strikes me, however, is how it brings out the truth of deception from words. The video is showcasing how words, even from the Bible, are used to push agendas or make money or control people. The Bible is the only truth, ultimately, that can be used and wrapped in counterfeit. The truth found in the Bible is pure, but is misused against mankind by manipulation of words to disguise the hidden agendas of false leaders. The video incorrectly implicates the Bible as part of the problem. In reality, it is the only solution.

As for the end, I think the author of the video is painting corruption from two decades as a comparison. History repeats by the same tricks. Divide and conquer by manipulation of truth in counterfeit. My point: ATS unwrapps when it can. Words are the (s)words we use here in a forum.

Hinn is only a reference. Most of the vid is about words as talisman magic.

Originally posted by teapot
reply to post by SuperiorEd

 

Hi SuperiorEd, I didn't watch the vid. Is Hinn teaching about the use of words to manipulate people and how to counter the dangers or is he using manipulative techniques to garner support for himself and his mission?

thanks

Being deceived (delusion) suggests they have no clue. This is biblical truth I refer to. God gives them up to the first deception as stated here:

2 Thessalonians 2

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let (LINK), until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



I am a firm believer that the church (built on the Rock of Peter) will be rolled away, revealing Christ. Many will see the truth at this point and be saved. Still others will continue to hate.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by SuperiorEd

 

OK, so lets go with the false messenger, do you think they know they are a false messengers?

Perhaps even though what they are teaching is untrue, they believe it.

edit on 20-7-2011 by SuperiorEd because: (no reason given)

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So Hinn is raising awareness but in such a way as to turn people away from the Bible? I am not trying to make this about Hinn. To me, he is just another showman preacher of no consequence to my beliefs. He does have a large international following and seems to raise strong and emotional opinions of himself and his mission. So it's rather important to understand if his message is counterfeit or not.

Does Hinn single out specific sections of the Bible as being unreliable and others as being the Word of the Lord and therefore trustworthy?

Hinn is an example of knowing the truth, but denying the power.

2 Tim 2

1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.


He is a false prophet by his own predictions. He is dripping with wealth.

Originally posted by teapot
reply to post by SuperiorEd

 

So Hinn is raising awareness but in such a way as to turn people away from the Bible? I am not trying to make this about Hinn. To me, he is just another showman preacher of no consequence to my beliefs. He does have a large international following and seems to raise strong and emotional opinions of himself and his mission. So it's rather important to understand if his message is counterfeit or not.

Does Hinn single out specific sections of the Bible as being unreliable and others as being the Word of the Lord and therefore trustworthy?

reply to post by SuperiorEd


Although it is the bible, it consist of words that form a story.
It could very well be, well to me it is the very denial of purity and truth.
If you want purity, your perception, that is pure, not second hand, not put in words and poluted.
Written words prescribes something, and the description is never the described.

The Word is Logos from John 1. He is the master story teller, revealing the hidden God. Here is an Article you may find interesting on this topic: LINK I write these articles to save space and to organize my own search for truth. God bless.

Originally posted by earthling42
reply to post by SuperiorEd

 

Although it is the bible, it consist of words that form a story.
It could very well be, well to me it is the very denial of purity and truth.
If you want purity, your perception, that is pure, not second hand, not put in words and poluted.
Written words prescribes something, and the description is never the described.

reply to post by SuperiorEd


Thanks for the link