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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
So be it.....let the war begin. It's been a long time coming.
I think this will go down much differently than most realize. Iran will defend itself much better than anyone expects, probably with the aid of Russia and China, and the war will be a quick one!
Israel will start the war, with America on it's heals, and they will be repelled swiftly! America will pull out, Israel will lose and both will be embarassed.
So if they know whats good for them they will stay out of other people's business.
Originally posted by SirMike
reply to post by Astr0
Dont forget that Israel has a few dozen nukes pointed towards Russia.
The Tsar was a three-stage Teller–Ulam design hydrogen bomb with a yield of 50 megatons (Mt)[3] This is equivalent to 1,400 times the combined power of the two nuclear explosives used in World War II (Little Boy (13–18 kilotons) and Fat Man (21 kilotons), the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki),[4] or 10 times the combined power of all the explosives used in WWII. But it is still only one quarter of the estimated yield of the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa. A three-stage H-bomb uses a fission bomb primary to compress a thermonuclear secondary, as in most H-bombs, and then uses energy from the resulting explosion to compress a much larger additional thermonuclear stage. However, there is evidence that the Tsar Bomba had a number of third stages rather than a single very large one.[5] The initial three-stage design was capable of approximately 100 Mt, but would have caused too much radioactive fallout. To limit fallout, the third stage and possibly the second stage had a lead tamper instead of a uranium-238 fusion tamper (which greatly amplifies the reaction by fissioning uranium atoms with fast neutrons from fusion reaction). This eliminated fast fission by the fusion-stage neutrons, so that approximately 97% of the total energy resulted from fusion alone (as such, it was one of the "cleanest" nuclear bombs ever created, generating a very low amount of fallout relative to its yield). There was a strong incentive for this modification since most of the fallout from a test of the bomb would have fallen on populated Soviet territory.
When the priest comes to read me the last rights
I take a look through the bars at the last sights
Of a world that has gone very wrong for me
Can it be theres some sort of error
Hard to stop the surmounting terror
Is it really the end not some crazy dream?
Somebody please tell me that Im dreaming
Its not so easy to stop from screaming
But words escape me when I try to speak
Tears they flow but why am I crying
After all I am not afraid of dying
Dont believe that there is never an end
As I walk all my life drifts before me
And though the end is near Im not sorry
Catch my soul cos its willing to fly away
Mark my words please believe my soul lives on
Please dont worry now that I have gone
Ive gone beyond to see the truth
When you know that your time is close at hand
Maybe then youll begin to understand
Life down there is just a strange illusion.
Hallowed Be Thy Name!
I think so too. I think the school yard bully (america) and his whimpy little mate( israel) will get their butts kicked by the new boy at school (china).
Originally posted by SirMike
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
So be it.....let the war begin. It's been a long time coming.
I think this will go down much differently than most realize. Iran will defend itself much better than anyone expects, probably with the aid of Russia and China, and the war will be a quick one!
Israel will start the war, with America on it's heals, and they will be repelled swiftly! America will pull out, Israel will lose and both will be embarassed.
So if they know whats good for them they will stay out of other people's business.
You really think so?
There wont be any land invasion
and If Israel’s attack several years back on the Syrian nuclear site is any indication, the IDF can operate with impunity over any country in the ME that relies on Russian/Chinese anti air defenses.
The IDF will use the bunker busting nukes to take out the deep sites,
try for a decapitation strike against the Iranian leadership
and if China or Russia decides to get involved, they IDF will go after Iran’s oil infrastructure.
For better or worse it will be over in 12 hours.
But one thing is certian, Israel wont let Iran build a nuke without some kind of attack on that capability.
Originally posted by chaztekno
I really hope the american public are against this war and they dont get the support of the people, if israel wants to fight then let them, sell themthe weapons, but stay the f*** out of it.
Originally posted by camaro68ss
reply to post by EagleTalonZ
I hope this does not happen. We are already screwed at home with the economy then throw in another war with Iran and even China! wow, that would suck. can anyone say draft?edit on 19-7-2011 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by chaztekno
I really hope the american public are against this war and they dont get the support of the people, if israel wants to fight then let them, sell themthe weapons, but stay the f*** out of it.