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Originally posted by Sri Oracle
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
She does not pocket it then go on some island getaway after giving birth.
Right... the lawyer gets to do that.
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
We live in a modern world. Not 100 years ago. We live in a world where mothers who are high risk can survive and babies that may have died 100 years ago, survive.
But hey, to each their own. If one wants to birth at home for next to nothing, they can. But do not criticize those who chose to live with modern conveniences.
"the United States has the most intense and widespread medical management of birth" in the world, and yet "ranks near the bottom among industrialized countries in maternal and infant mortality."
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
reply to post by Sri Oracle
I'm so glad I'm not living 100 years ago; oh wait I wouldn't have survived my daughter's birth. Like has been stated previously not all birth are routine and easy. So, for those of you lucky enough to have easy routine births count your blessings.
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
I'm so glad I'm not living 100 years ago; oh wait I wouldn't have survived my daughter's birth. Like has been stated previously not all birth are routine and easy. So, for those of you lucky enough to have easy routine births count your blessings.
The Farm Midwifery Center has been able to maintain extremely low rates of medical intervention with consistently good birth outcomes for nearly four decades
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
reply to post by Sri Oracle
I'm so glad I'm not living 100 years ago; oh wait I wouldn't have survived my daughter's birth. Like has been stated previously not all birth are routine and easy. So, for those of you lucky enough to have easy routine births count your blessings.
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
The US national average is 24% vaginal births.
At "The Farm" 1970-2000 Ina May averaged 98.6% vaginal births.
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
She does not pocket it then go on some island getaway after giving birth.
Right... the lawyer gets to do that.
So what?
It is a legal arrangement. What happens if they take the baby home and the birth mother decides she wants her baby back!? Where is their protection against her coming and taking it? Without a lawyer and laws on their side, they can lose the baby.
However, maybe that is how they want to live. Taking the baby home, getting to know it and forever wondering if that knock on the door means them losing the little life they have come to know and love.
Laws and lawyers are not always the big bad meanies that everything thinks they are.
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
reply to post by Sri Oracle
To be clear; it wasn't the birth itself that caused the issues it was the internal organs not working that caused the issues
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
Apparently it's fine with some if women die needlessly in childbirth or while pregnant.
Currently, according to the World Health Organization and several United Nations agencies, the United States ranks behind no fewer than forty other nations in preventing maternal deaths (based upon the official but unreliable number*). (2 Hill et al., 2007) In 1982, the U.S. ratio was 7.5 deaths per 100,000 births. In 2004, it was 13.2 deaths per 100,000. In 2005, the last year for which we have figures, the maternal death ratio was 15.1 deaths per 100,000 births. For African-American women, the ratio was an outrageous 34.5 deaths per 100,000 births. (Kung, Hoyert, Xu, & Murphy, 2008) In other words, for all U.S. women the maternal death ratio is almost 5 times as high as it should be, and for African-American women, it is more than 10 times what it should be.
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
It is at least apparently fine with the medical establishment that quickly prescribes unneeded but profitable procedures (ie 75% c-section rate) which are known to increase maternal death rates.
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
Apparently it's fine with some if women die needlessly in childbirth or while pregnant.
Currently, according to the World Health Organization and several United Nations agencies, the United States ranks behind no fewer than forty other nations in preventing maternal deaths (based upon the official but unreliable number*). (2 Hill et al., 2007) In 1982, the U.S. ratio was 7.5 deaths per 100,000 births. In 2004, it was 13.2 deaths per 100,000. In 2005, the last year for which we have figures, the maternal death ratio was 15.1 deaths per 100,000 births. For African-American women, the ratio was an outrageous 34.5 deaths per 100,000 births. (Kung, Hoyert, Xu, & Murphy, 2008) In other words, for all U.S. women the maternal death ratio is almost 5 times as high as it should be, and for African-American women, it is more than 10 times what it should be.
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It is at least apparently fine with the medical establishment that quickly prescribes unneeded but profitable procedures (ie 75% c-section rate) which are known to increase maternal death rates.edit on 11-7-2011 by Sri Oracle because: (no reason given)