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Most of us have a knowledge of the nature nurture debate which focuses on the who we are and in reality how we got to be who we are! Is it nature, genetics, and chemistry or is it a clear blank tape which we and society writes our individual and social personality to. As those sociology text books seem to advocate we are determined by our social, economic, educational, class, and parental/ peer influences. It has been raging for year just who is correct. Most researchers seem to sit on the fence by claiming it's a mixture of both, and they are probably correct in this approach.

But the above is not what I mainly wish to focus on, although it plays it's inevitable part in the matrix hence is mention.

As has been mentioned society does play a very significant aspect in forming our view of the world, what is right, what is wrong, what is good and what is bad, what we should strive for, and what our goals and expectations should be based upon our social and economic status. We go to school and learn the rules of the game of life, we are indoctrinated into a society which expects us to conduct ourselves within certain confines and boundaries. provided we operate within these confines we can survive and flourish within our given boundaries of that social group. Seems simple enough!

But as I have grown as an individual not just biologically but educationally, individually, and spiritually, My world view has changed, my perspective of our human world has morphed into a new way of looking at these social structures we operate within. Like everyone else, I put faith within the system that what I was told was true, accurate, and correct. Or at least to the very best of human knowledge and science this is what we have found out or discovered, and based upon these so called experts we trust them and their drugs to do the very best they can to guide and steer us on the proverbial straight and narrow path. All very commendable in theory, and often those who attempt to help us are as much a part of this system of rules as we are. Just because someone calls them self a Dr does not mean they are not subjected to the same set of social conditioning as everyone else, on the contrary, often the society, the system, requires even more adherence or obedience than a factory worker or some other member of society. So they believe in the goals and philosophy of the said profession, only natural I suppose. But lets take a step back, become that third person, the observer looking from above for a second and I argue something is not right.


Are these institutions really acting in our best interest or is there some other sinister plan afoot to mislead us. Do you always believe the FDA, or the UK NHS, has your best interest at heart ? Equally, do you also believe your local government, your national government is working for everyone's and your personal best interest? Sad to say I think not! I have spent some years now researching this very Idea although I am not the only one to do so, and what has emerged is nothing short of scary. Whether we like it or not we are persistently being subjected to brain washing, Don't believe me, check out CNN for example. One proven method of brain washing or conditioning is to continuously repeat something to people over and over again, day after day, after day! it becomes embedded into their mind. The truth is we live within a big brother global system, not so different from the film the matrix, the reality which has been pulled over our eyes is not entirely true or accurate and they know it. They have a hidden agenda of control, they release propaganda information which emits key facts or alternative views and aspects which do not suit their agenda of complete and unconditional acceptance and obedience to their ideas and goals of complete and utter control. In short we are the cattle the sheep, and the lemmings who do their dirty work. The evidence is all around us, you need to wake up, use the internet, use whats available to track and dig for the truth, it's there, if you dare to look and search . When you look for this material, try and not be judgmental, try and keep an open mind and look for the facts, the evidence, and then make an informed conclusion!

But what has this to do with psychological disorders?

Many so called disorders do not have their bases within the realm chemical imbalances or shortages, many are purely founded on social situations and happenings which have had a devastating effect upon us even if we are aware of it or not. We try to please but often it seems society and others kick us in the teeth time and time again, till we are told it's you that has the problem, your not conforming to societies norms and values. Your job is to do not think! inconstant situations which appear to change day by day, they serve to confuse us and it does. these types of social games work well to keep us in line, some then often begin to question their own sanity, you are the broken machine it must be me they can't all be wrong, where as in fact it's the machine that's broken and corrupt and often not YOU!

I mentioned about the systems health services and their real agenda of helping you or not! which ever..
Here is just one example of this:

Cancer, a hideous condition which makes those who suffer often in agony and only to often die at the end of it. I am more than sure many of you know people who have been subjected to this condition and it's NOT good for anyone we know, accept the Pharmaceuticle companies who make billions per year from suffering people! Are they trying to find a cure ? Are they?

Check out the links: From personal experience I know this works, so I do KNOW!

Look up Utube cancer and B17 , also Dr Burzynski movie also on Utube, could not post links as I have not posted enough as yet..

All the best,
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OK thanks for reaffirming the established theory that generally the medical fraternity in effect works for the drug companies, The act of banning this only serves to confirm the core of my point. Also, by the way, where does one draw the line between social events and effects of society and PSYCHIATRY? Your effectively saying all psychological disorders have little or nothing to do with society and society has no effect. if this is the case, sorry your a very dangerous person. And I feel sad for some of your prisoners you have brain washed to think the likes of you have ALL the answers! YOU DON'T!

Best letter I have ever read on ATS. Glad you put out your point. Your voice alone will have an impact.

Peace to you.

while i agree there is corruption in the FDA concerning drugs, and drug companies always trying to push pills, individual doctors do a lot of good. most treatments they prescribe are meant to help, and do.

foregoing medication isn't wise. if you're concerned about the treatment you're receiving, go online and do a bit of research, or get a second opinion.

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
while i agree there is corruption in the FDA concerning drugs, and drug companies always trying to push pills, individual doctors do a lot of good. most treatments they prescribe are meant to help, and do.

foregoing medication isn't wise. if you're concerned about the treatment you're receiving, go online and do a bit of research, or get a second opinion.

Ok I need to clarify one or two points, I am not on any drugs, well that sort anyway, I come from a psychology background, also sociology. But yes I am not saying there is no room for drugs at all, I am only pointing out the fact psychiatry operates on the primary bases that almost all mental disorders have a chemical solution to them, sticking plaster idea often, I was only trying to point out the fact there is another side to this, the effects of social situations on people, and therefore OFTEN there is a social solution to them. But the drug companies just want to keep their toxic crap going, OFTEN, to control and subdue the questioning individual. For this I was banned! Due to me daring to speak the truth. it's evidence of the point I was making..

Originally posted by Buford2
Best letter I have ever read on ATS. Glad you put out your point. Your voice alone will have an impact.

Peace to you.

Life can be a hard battle, This is not an easy world to live in at times...

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drugs do have their uses in treating psychological ailments, but i agree alot of the time they are overused. prozac is handed out like candy.

the brain largely works off of chemical interactions, so using chemicals to help treat problems is only logical. however, using them to pacify someone would be very wrong.

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This would be a good case example: what I was attempting put acorss:

economiccrisis.us...