secret free energy or military weapon? definate potential.

Hey everyone, personaly i love the range of topics here on ats and thought i,d bring up the resonance topic for a bit of creative/critical feedback. Like alot of people i have great respect for mr Nikola Tesla and his research and hold him in high regard like many other scientists. One of the things he enjoyed playing with was frequency and he once claimed he could destroy the whole earth with 4 devices placed in the right spots on the earth with frequency. Don,t know about that but there are experimants that he claims he conducted in the field which were reported by the msm at the time with eye witness accounts like making his apartment building shake like a earthquake was happening but no other surrounding building was effected. These links sre not tesla related but more related to the phenomenon itself.

en.wikipedia.org...:Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_destruction.ogg

www.liveleak.com...

I have seem another with a guy using oscillators to vibrate water at different frequencies in a quartz vessel. at a certain frequency the water shot out of the vessel through his roof leaving a round hole and never to be seen again. John hutchinson was also lookinh into the field although debunked as a crack pot. Anyway just food for thought.

How was Hutchison debunked?

Do you have a link to that water geiser story?

Also, there is evidecne that the Twin Towers at the WTC were brought down using resonant energy somehow. Both the buildings were built as giant tuning forks. If you look on the outer surface at the bottom of the towers the outer cage of the structure is comrpised of many 3 pronged tuning forks running up the entire length of the building. People have said the towerrs had a strange resonant frequency as well. I feel microwaves were beamed at the towers to respond to the resonant frequency they were tuned to which caused them to disintegrate..

Steel turning to dust -

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by crikeyoioioi


Sorry, but forced resonance vibrations caused from vortex shedding more than adequately explains the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse. Its the same phenomenon seen with any reed instrument.

Hutchinson been called a fraud over and over, i personally give his work some merit as with the resonance theory but each to their own.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Will dig up more cool vids like the original post but from my records as alot don't seem to be online anymore. The glass works as i've done it several times as a party trick, funny seeing glass bend, wabble and break. The right frequency with the right delivery can do amazing things to seemingly ordinary objects.

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Don't quite understant your response? So if we duplicate this forced resonance from the vortex shedding we can take out a similar bridge with a similar resonance? Educate me in lamens terms

Here is a Mythbusters bit on it



I have also read about a handheld device that could almost instantly boil a cup of water by using sound waves. It was on an alternative energy site somewhere. There is a lot out there.

seems interesting to me anyway, from what i can gather with the right formula (pretty intricate formula) to work out an objects give frequency as i'll call it, you can using the right tools to cause serious destruction or harness great energys with very little energy output. Seems more about the math than the energy lost to energy gainded debate.

Originally posted by 8311-XHT
How was Hutchison debunked?

Do you have a link to that water geiser story?

Also, there is evidecne that the Twin Towers at the WTC were brought down using resonant energy somehow. Both the buildings were built as giant tuning forks. If you look on the pouter surface at the bottom of the towers the outer cage of the structure is comrpised of many 3 pronged tuning forks running up the entire length of the building. People have said the towerrs had a strange resonant frequancy as well. I feel microwaved were beamed at the towers to respond to the resonant frequency they were tuned to which caused them to disintegrate..

Steel turning to dust -

www.youtube.com...

edit on 7-7-2011 by 8311-XHT because: (no reason given)

Mr. wizard says"frequency 101":

Sorry every time I hear "frequencies"
Its like finger nails on a chalk board:
Presented For your "ed-jumacation": then I'll go away and leave your thread alone. .

"frequency" as you call it is a "measurement of a recurring "event" based on time. It can be applied to any recurring event; sound waves (mechanical energy) can be measured in "hertz" ( cycles per second) from one "peak" to the next ;

radio waves(electromagnetic energy) can be measured in "hertz"( cycle per second )commonly in the range of kilo-cycles per second "khz". or mega-cycles/second "MHz") they are not the same thing as sound waves (mechanical motion.)
Bananas coming down a processing line can be measured at "bananas per second" Though they are not going to collapse a building.
mechanical "resonance"is dependant on physical characteristics ( length and material); the physical wavelength and type of energy applied determines the response if any.

physical wavelength(lamda) and frequency are reciprocal;
frequency= the speed of light or sound /wavelength so wavelength in meters = frequency / speed of light or sound( meters/second) as appropriate.

www.sengpielaudio.com...


In other words:"

higher frequencies have shorter wavelengths.Lower frequencies have longer wavelengths.

microwave range antennas are very small,HF ("high frequency") 30mhz and below antennas are very large. Low frequency (LF )and "extremely low frequency"(elf" used for submarine communication) antennas can be miles long.

Giant building sized "tuning forks are not going to mechanically resonate to rf energy in any form much less millimeter length (microwave frequencies) waves. I know now I'm a poorly paid shill and debunker..
Your "science" just doesn't add up; it sounds "techy" enough but. Its just not real physics.

The concept of resonance is a property where an energy applied travels in the "system' to the end is reflected back in correct time with the next incoming pulse of energy if they interact at the correct time(phase) they reinforce each other and the traveling pulse will be larger than the original. or if slightly out of "time" ( resonance ) they cancel (interfere) and the traveling pulse is damped.The resonante frequency is adjusted by changing the physical length of the object (changing the reflection return time;i.e. the time it takes to return to properly reinforce the incoming pulse). Or changing the frequency (timing) of the incoming energy pulses to match the physical charactristicsofthe object (easiest). Resonance ;whether electromagnetic or mechanical is achieved over a very small range of perfect conditions.
I've been through some of the best RF (vhf and microwave range) repair and calibration schools the military has. You paid for it; just returning the favor; thanks..

resume speculation..

reply to post by crikeyoioioi


Vortex shedding is what happens when a fluid flows past an object. Since the object as well as the fluid flow isn’t 100% uniform, a high pressure region and a corresponding low pressure region develops in the trailing portion of the object. Since energy flows from areas of high density to low density this pressure imbalance will eventually correct but since the condition that caused it initially are still present the high/low pressure regions will be recreated in an opposite magnitude their previous configuration.

When the frequency of the vortex shedding corresponds to the resonant frequency of the object, you get excessive vibration.

This is also why a reed instrument makes sound. Forcing your breath across the reed causes it to vibrate and forcing your breath across the reed at just the right velocity will cause it vibrate the air column in the instrument at its corresponding resonant frequency.

To apply this to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, when the wind speed was just right, the wind passing along this long thin structure (The Tacoma Narrows Bridge was an incredibly thin structure, very innovative in its concept and design) created alternating vortexes which caused it to vibrate at the resonant frequency of the deck structure. This caused its collapse. Vortex shedding was a phenomenon that was understood at the time, but no one every though it could apply to a structure as large a suspension bridge.

Oscillation was seen in the bridge very early on and several attempts were made to correct it, unfortunately none of them were successful and all it took to destroy the bridge was one day when the wind was at the right speed for long enough.

To turn this principle into a weapon (vortex shedding or some other induction of critical frequency) ... I dont see it.

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46Ace, I dont have the knowledge to refute what you are saying.. but what I can say is that I have seen a lot of evidence to show somehting really really strange was going on at the WTC on 9-11... I can't explain how it worked but I see enough evidence to show somehting was going on there that has to do with microwave energy or some type of energy transmission or weapon,

-people were exploding before they hit the ground jumping out of the towers
-a man was seen hanging from the WTC by one hand and one foot and was trying to take his clothes off - microwave heating?

-there was a huge hurricane off the coast New York that was unreported.. some people specualte this was being used to feed energy to this 9-11 event
-steel turning to dust and both buiidngs turning completely to dust

There are many ties between the WTC before and after 9-11 with the Pyramids of Gzia.. where Freemasonry was founded..

Please read a book by Christopher Dunn about the the Giza pyramids. He shows alot of evidence the builders of the great pyramid were scientifically advanced and the pyramid was used for generation of some kind of microwave enery production that also used resonant energy. I think there may be some kind of connection between the pyramids and what happened on 9-11.

Originally posted by 8311-XHT
reply to post by 46ACE

 

46Ace, I dont have the knowledge to refute what you are saying.. but what I can say is that I have seen a lot of evidence to show somehting really really strange was going on at the WTC on 9-11... I can't explain how it worked but I see enough evidence to show somehting was going on there that has to do with microwave energy or some type of energy transmission or weapon,

-people were exploding before they hit the ground jumping out of the towers
-a man was seen hanging from the WTC by one hand and one foot and was trying to take his clothes off - microwave heating?

-there was a huge hurricane off the coast New York that was unreported.. some people specualte this was being used to feed energy to this 9-11 event
-steel turning to dust and both buiidngs turning completely to dust

There are many ties between the WTC before and after 9-11 with the Pyramids of Gzia.. where Freemasonry was founded..

Please read a book by Christopher Dunn about the the Giza pyramids. He shows alot of evidence the builders of the great pyramid were scientifically advanced and the pyramid was used for generation of some kind of microwave enery production that also used resonant energy. I think there may be some kind of connection between the pyramids and what happened on 9-11.

Meant In the friendliest way :

You are perfectly welcome to your opinions; I have questions myself.,
but I am just presenting what I know through years of technical training to be the facts related to many buzzwords thrown about i.e.( my favorite:"frequencies!!!").

Weird stuff happened that day. No doubt.

If pushed I can come up with some esoteric ( wild) concepts to couple rf energy to solid objects but they are purely spewed out of my butt speculation; and I prefer not to feed the fires or add to the noise.
just tryin to help sort the wheat from the chaff...

g'day...

reply to post by 46ACE


No problem. I think it is awesome that people with real world exeprience with this kind of tech are here and exploring these different theories. That was why I was hoping you might check that book out. Also see Judy Wood's site on 9-11. She is the one that presented a lot of that info I posted.

My hoipe is that your real worl dexperience paired with the info from Chris Dunn;'s book might help you find the missing pieces of the puzzle. I am trying to teach myself this stuff but by the time I figure it out things might be over.. haha

There is far too many questions about the physical demise of these buildings.
I too have some very uncanny feelings about the destruction.
Though i have no idea how the destruction was caused, i dont at all believe that the aircraft strikes and resulting fires brought them down.
They were, after all is said and done over the evidence, designed so thaat aircraft strikes by two similar aircraft would not collapse them.
I will be able to recall their demise for a lifetime now,They seemed to blossom near the top with the top falling into the maelstrom and the mushroom cloud of desintigrating cement fell engulfing each floor as it came down.
The loss of the steelfrom the rubble was a death knell for after event investigation.
How they managed to spirit almost allthe steel from the murder scene without extensive forensic investigation and laboratory investigation is indicative of the depth of control the perpetrators of this mass murder had and still have, over its unbiased investigation.
This fact alone is damning enough to start a revolution in other countries i could think of....
I am sure a whole lot could be learned from the photographs of the event if organised and laind out side by side, i am sure every milisecond of the collapse is there for blowing up and slow motion from many angles.
Private researchers would do well to spend time in analyzing the available films more intently with better equipment.
When looking at some aerial views of the two huge circular holes in the ground where they stood it certainly occurs to me at least that an upwardly direct beam of force of unknown nature, or conversely downward directed beam,may have caused the collapse.
In regard to building seven, it on the other hand seemed to disintigrate, from the bottom up,One floor after another simply turning to dust and the rest pancaking down and disintigrating in their turn.
The building, seems to retain its shape above down to dust level, as it collapses downward.
I suspect that its possible some form of new weapon could have been used to disintigrate the towers structurally or weaken their members so that a small amount of explosives could do the work of tons.
I have not seen evidence of exploding human beings plummetting from the towers nor have i seen the other scene you mention.You must include a link or two to some of your speculations i think.
It wont be long before the truthers and the OS ers will ruin a speculative effort with their bickering but
Well never get to the bottom of the tradgedy that way......Good thread....s

reply to post by stirling


I don't want to derail this thread and turn it into a 9-11 thread.. but I do think this is incredibly relevant because I do think resonance and direct energy weapons were involved and if we can figure out how it was done I don;t see how that info couldn't be used for power transmission etc,

Here is what I believe abou the Towers being taken down from all the research I have done.

I believe the Twoers were engineered and built to be taken down when they were and this event was at least planned when they were built and likely part of a bigger plan from even beofre they were built. I will detail why I think that. I also am convinced multiple methods were used to take the buildings down.

-I believe nano thermite was laced in the beams all through the structure that when lit like a fuse by the aircraft colliding and the fire spread through the entire structure to weaken it by cutting the hardware that joined the steel together - bolts, welds structural members etc. The jets colliding were like lighting a fuse that ran throguh every piece of steel in the structure. There were tons and tons of unburnt thermite found within the rubble of the collapsed buildings. Molten steel was also seen pouring out of the building after the planes struck. This supports thermite as well because uspposedly steel would not melt at the temperatures the jet fuel burned. So how could the steel melt to liquid form so thoroughly?

-I think some microwave beam was also used that caused the concrete, metal and everything else in the building to disintegrate. Engines in cars around the WTC had their engines and various parts of the cars melted but other parts fine and seemingly untouched.

-I also think some kind of gravity control may have been used that pulled the building down in it's footprint. from examination of the video the building seemed to fall faster than gravity would pull it. If you study electrogravitics - TTBrown - you see that somekind of electical energy could have created a gavity force. Maybe the microwave beam/resonant transfer had multiple purposes.. disintegrating the material and creating the gravitic force. It's also possible the thermite heat could have fueled somekind of microwave.electrogravitic effect.

reply to post by crikeyoioioi


The Tacoma Narrows Bridge wasn't destroyed by sound, it was wind. Short answer.

There is no such thing as 'free energy'.


The Tacoma Narrow's Bridge collapse.