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Originally posted by DJW001
There are countless photos of the comet available online, all taken by non-NASA astronomers. Here's one taken by Leonid Elenin himself:
The problem that you all, and everyone else, have is to assume gravity is the only force involved here. Therefore, something as small as a comet could not possibly affect the Earth, or Saturn, or any of the planets.
The electromagnetic force, which is literally a thousand billion billion billion billion times stronger than gravity, (10^28 x stronger) is what is not being taken into account. The reason for this is it would set all accepted THEORIES on their heads. If you had spent your entire life studying some THEORY, and then it gets proven wrong, well, then, you would have to admit that you have wasted your ENTIRE LIFE going down the wrong path. And not just you, the professor who taught you all this stuff had wasted his entire life, and the guy who taught him too. Nobody wants to even entertain such a thought. And there are lots of them. So anyone whose theories seem like they might turn everything upside down is simply SHOUTED DOWN.
Electromagnetism is infinite-ranged like gravity, but vastly stronger, and therefore describes almost all macroscopic phenomena of everyday experience, ranging from the impenetrability of solids, friction, rainbows, lightning, and all human-made devices using electric current, such as television, lasers, and computers. Electromagnetism fundamentally determines all macroscopic, and many atomic level, properties of the chemical elements, including all chemical bonding.
Look at some videos of sungrazer comets. They can cause the Sun to put out giant CMEs. Since they are way too small to gravitationally cause such a thing, this gets ignored. Yet somehow, the Sun COINCIDENTALLY puts out GIANT flares towards comets when they come too close. So all the "scientists" keep repeating the mantra: It's a coincidence, the comet had nothing to do with the CME.
The Sun is not a ball of nuclear explosions going off forever, as in the accepted THEORIES. It is the positive anode in a giant electrical arc discharge, more like ball lightning. The further out in the Sun's radial electrical field, the more NEGATIVE in relation to the Sun. So the Earth is the cathode to the Sun's anode. Since we are in a stable orbit, we are maintaining the same charge all year, so the electrical stress is low, keeping the coma and tail in dark mode. THese are usually called the Earth's magnetosphere. Strangely enough, the magnetosphere of Venus reaches exactly to the Earth, and the magnetosphere of Earth reaches exactly to Mars, keeping us all at proper distances from each other to avoid huge discharges.
A comet on the other hand, is on a highly eccentric orbit. Therefore it is traveling from an area of far more negative charge, and approaching the positive Sun. As it nears the Sun, the electrical stress becomes great enough for it's "magnetosphere" to go into glow mode, or sometimes even arc mode.
Most of the comets we have ever seen in our tiny lifespan are on one hundred year or less orbits. This makes them pick up enough negative charge to go into glow mode when they come back in. This comet Elenin is on a calculated 39 THOUSAND year orbit. THis means it has picked up more negative charge than anything seen in human history. Thus it will go into arc mode as it nears. On top of that, it is entering the plane of the ecliptic, which comets rarely do, and will pass directly between the Earth and the Sun, which has NEVER HAPPENED IN HUMAN HISTORY, as far as we know.
The "tail" of a comet always points directly away from the Sun. It is not streaming out behind at as most people just assume. Sometime comets will have two tails, one directly away from the Sun as always, and another actually streaming out behind. This means the Earth will pass through the comet's tail not AFTER it passes in October like everyone is saying, but when it is directly between the Earth and the Sun on Sept 27. If it develops a double tail, then we will pass through the second one in October.
It may do nothing. Or it may be like a blowtorch directed at the Earth. More like an arc welder between the Earth and the Sun. Or it could even cause a giant CME directly towards Earth.
Or it could be that the misunderstood electrical effects could cause the much foretold pole shift or pole reversal. Now ask yourself this: If the Sun and all the planets just sort of collapsed into each other from some primordial cloud like the generally accepted theory, WHERE DID ALL THE SPIN COME FROM? Why is the Sun and every planet spinning, and also why are the planets revolving around the Sun. I know how the gravity THEORY explains HOW it happens, but they always leave out WHY it happens. Where did all this angular momentum come from? NO "scientist" has any explanation for this. Even that one weird guy on here, whom you all seem to regard as the voice of science for some reason, has no answer for this. (As a side note, why would a real scientist spend apparently EVERY WAKING HOUR hanging out on a conspiracy website with the tinfoil hat brigade, debunking right and left. Why does anyone believe this guy at all? But that could be another thread entirely)
Electric currents tend to spiral around. This is where the spin comes from. So this comet could possibly cause the polarity to flip, causing the Earth to either reverse its rotation, or even flip right over physically. Either one of these would obviously cause major disaster. Reversing the rotation would cause the Sun to apparently "stand still in the sky" as many ancient texts claim happened before. This would cause massive upheaval, earthquakes being the least of it. 75 percent of the planet is covered with water. Think of water sloshing in a bathtub. Imagine if the entire ocean did that!
Now I'm not saying any of this is actually going to happen, BUT IT COULD EASILY HAPPEN. Nasa spouts off that it definitely won't happen. Well they don't KNOW. Neither do I, neither do you. Wait till Sept 27 to find out.
All I can say is, if the oceans start sloshing around, all the thousand foot tsunamis will be at the coast. I'm guessing the effect would be minimal in the middle of the ocean. I have a big sailboat, and that's where I plan on being on Sept 27. If nothing happens, I will have a nice boat trip. But if all radio comms go dead on the 27th, I will expect to see massive death and destruction when I make landfall. Either way I will have a good time.
If the comet's tail is like an arc welder aimed at Earth, well then I will be fried too. The only ones who live will be the elite in their underground bases, as long as they are not also underwater. Hm. Seems like the only truly safe place would be an underground base up in the Himalayas. Heard about any elites going up there lately? And bringing their entire families with them?
Great, well put together thread! S&F Morrison is paid to debunk anything and everything that is out of the norm. Like many on this site as well, they are here to deflect any truth that might be associated with Elenin/Nibiru. They go by the book and use science to discredit everything. I'm on the fence about Nibiru, Tyche, or Planet X. I do however, highly believe we are in a binary solar system. Some say it's a white dwarf but it would have stole enough of the suns energy and gone supernova by now, so it would could be a brown dwarf. I can see all the so called scientists picking this post apart in a few.
Our creators will return someday, yes I'm saying we are intelligently designed. Do I think it will be in my lifetime? Probably not, but I do think it will be in my sons or his kids lifetime. I wish I were around to see it though, it would put my wondering mind at ease.
don't know if anyone posted this video yet. A very good image from Antarctica base of unknown big planetary object, that is not the moon that rises besides.
Morrison estimates that there are 2 million websites discussing the impending Nibiru-Earth collision. He receives, on average, five email inquiries about Nibiru every day.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Gliese581
don't know if anyone posted this video yet. A very good image from Antarctica base of unknown big planetary object, that is not the moon that rises besides.
It is a lens flare.