The British Conspiracy that has it ALL...... Phone Hacking, Corporations, Police Collusion.........

The Government is not agrreing with the opposition Labour party in carrying a motion ''to Prevent'' News Corp from buying / taking over BskyB.........

www.bbc.co.uk...
Ministers to back calls for BSkyB bid to be withdrawn

This is really significant because this actually puts a SERIOUS dent in News Corps future plans as a Mega Corp because BskyB was seen as a succesful ''cash cow'' to finance and bankroll other parts of the business......The will seriously have to re-think alot of what the News Corp does and may affect other publications in other countries...

Also been listening to the ''interrogations'' today by the MP's on the committe and they have been really attacking the Police on this........... let's hope that this is not then just conviently forgotten Because the problem with all this is the GENERAL STANDS and MORALS of our society............. passing the blame does not constitue a win !!!! or an end to the matter..


PDUK

www.bbc.co.uk...

The continual ''LIVE FEED'' from the BBC now as well as the Guardian on the very first post on this thread....

I think this saga is going to run and run...

The anguish visible on Camerons' face as he spoke about this was heart-rending. I hope he doesn't feel the burden of responsibility too heavily, how could he have had any inkling?

Originally posted by Mark Harris
The anguish visible on Camerons' face as he spoke about this was heart-rending. I hope he doesn't feel the burden of responsibility too heavily, how could he have had any inkling?

Mark

dafjones.thirdlight.com...

That photo is a classic............. it reminds me of one I took of a friend when at a party who later admitted he had been having a ''session'' with the girl in the photo........

(Even the girl behind Cameron's shoulder looks disgusted !!)

DC looks like he has just been ''framed'' in a picture with someone he probably wishes he hadn't......


As they say , A picture says 1000 words...

Regards

PDUK

I don't understand why people still subscribe to Sky. I haven't had an aerial plugged into my TV in nearly a decade because of this thing called 'the internet', I guess people haven't heard about it yet.

www.reuters.com...

From Source Article :

Over the past four years Murdoch's U.S.-based News Corp. has made money on income taxes. Having earned $10.4 billion in profits, News Corp. would have been expected to pay $3.6 billion at the 35 percent corporate tax rate. Instead, it actually collected $4.8 billion in income tax refunds, all or nearly all from the U.S. government.

America needs to start having serious words

*A little more on Andy Hayman, the officer responsible for the [2006] inquiry whos sensitively timed meeting between then Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman and the NOTW was left off lists of contacts between senior officers and the paper's owner sent to the Metropolitan Police Authority who gave evidence at the home affairs select committee. I must admit, watching the “My God!” comments did bring to mind performances at infant school Christmas plays. Surely an assistant commissioner would be used to people playing innocent and know how to act shocked. (How many criminals were released due to a particularly convincing look of indignant surprise?) In all fairness perhaps he does know how to act and perhaps those children deserved much more recognition than they received.

Nick Davies on phone hacking and the police

I’ve never seen a committee do this before with a witness, they were openly laughing at him

Nope. I was right not to applaud the little blighters.


In relation to Brooks summoned to meeting with Scotland Yard to be told her journalists had spied on behalf of murder suspects (also see) Channel 4 News learns that a Metropolitan Police detective was put under surveillance by News of the World journalists and his personal details targeted Dave Cook is taking action in relation to the revelations:


Exclusive: Detective to sue News International for harassment

(Reuters) - A former Scotland Yard detective plans to sue publishers of the News of the World for harassment and hacking his phone while he was investigating a high-profile axe murder, their lawyer said on Tuesday.

"The court proceedings haven't been issued yet. They are about to be issued. Letters before action have been sent," he said, adding he was also pursuing the suit on behalf of Cook's wife Hames, who had also been followed.

Letters before action is a legal term referring to a letter written by a lawyer stating a grievance on behalf of a client and giving a defendant the chance to make redress before the aggrieved party launches a lawsuit.

If this goes to court it might be worth picking up the large packet of popcorn.



*Sorry if I appear flippant but I'm desperately short of 'It can't get any worse'




Edit
Joshing aside, this really is worth a watch Nick Davies on phone hacking and the police

reply to post by yakuzakid


I stopped subscribing to sky long ago, they are a bunch of money grabbing so and so's.

One thing that baffled me and disgusted me also was the 3rd Police Commissioners admission that he had dinner during the original investigation over this with people from News international. And what even amazed me more, that when he left his job, he was given another job by who news international. This sounds way sinister to me, and he had the cheek to think that this was okay.

And at the end of his questioning the way he went off on one, after being asked if he had been given any money, by any journalists or newspapers, He had guilty written all over his face.

A little more detail, just in case anyone thought that questions over how deep Cameron is mired in this betrayed a partisan motivation, with regards to an earlier offering where a Leaked Labour email: lay off Murdoch - Opposition leader attempts to turn down the heat on the phone-hacking scandal.

An email, forwarded on behalf of Ed Miliband's director of strategy, Tom Baldwin, to all shadow cabinet teams warns Labour spokespeople to avoid linking hacking with the BSkyB bid, to accept ministerial assurances that meetings with Rupert Murdoch are not influencing that process, and to ensure that complaints about tapping are made in a personal, not shadow ministerial, capacity.

seemed to offer cause for concern, it should be noted that

Lord Ashcroft: Why Miliband needs to take a close look at his own private office before he criticises others

In fact, the Labour leader need look no further than his own office, for there sits Tom Baldwin who, unusual recreational habits notwithstanding, was employed by News International for more than a decade prior to his appointment as Mr Miliband’s Director of Communications, and whose hands are far from clean.

A new development:

Senator calls investigation into whether Murdoch papers hacked Americans' phones


If this spreads to News Corp in the US it is game over for Murdoch.

reply to post by Mark Harris


This has the potential to bring down both David Cameron & Ed Milliband. But the UK media seem not to be grabbing onto this angle, in particular the saga with Brown / Cameron / Murdoch & OFCOM. That alone if latched onto by the British media would bring Cameron down.

reply to post by Mark Harris


Lord Ashcroft has a cheek, he is more corrupt than anyone else. He evades paying tax. Which he owes alot if I may add. If he wants to have a say in the UK, he put up or shut up. I say.

Anyone see news-night last night?... Hugh grant was on (I'm beginning to like grant), he said it how it is and even managed to slip the word bollox into the conversation

www.bbc.co.uk...

IMO, nothing will come of the public enquiry, police enquiry et al... U can tell by the language they are already using. "Cameron will also announce today that a judge is to oversee a full-blown inquiry into phone hacking, and that a panel will examine the future regulation of the media. The judge – who will be named today – will lead the main inquiry into the hacking allegations, which is expected to be modelled on the Hutton inquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly in 2003"...lol....the david kelly 'inquiry', what a joke...www.guardian.co.uk...

And as for the smiling pictures of Murdoch when he came to the UK, www.guardian.co.uk...

do these look like pictures of a man in crisis?

And as for 'all party's' (they are actually one party) stating that Murdoch should scrap the BskyB takeover, I think its just a case of saying what the public want to hear, or what Government think the Sheeple want to hear - give it a year and the sheeple will have forgotten - the shame sheeple that were panick buying the last copy of NOTW...Role on the Sunday Sun

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Oh agrees with the Olympics and such which is occurring next year, the sheeple will forget about all of this and the politicians will think, think they can get up to sinister things, without the public finding out about it now.

I do wonder who the rest are who have been hacked, or their bank accounts hacked etc.,

The politicians whom had a bee in their bonnets over the expenses scandal, must have been jumping up and down with joy, when this so called crisis came to light.

On Hugh Grant Hilarious, I watched him on Question time, classic is all One is going to say, with regards to his comments. But as someone said on news night last night, it is not just the politicians, it is now the press and police whom have been brought in to disrepute. They have lost all our respect and faith, which I find amusing, they lost our trust and respect long ago so what is new.

Adding the link to Hugh Grants Argument on News night, brilliant!

Hugh Grant on NewsNight

reply to post by Laurauk


Agreed on the Police respect thing.... I think it shows how far removed from reality these people are, one of those guys on newsnight last night was trying to make out there was nothing wrong with having dinner, Christmas parties et all with media tycoons; he also said that essentially the red tops don't have as much influence over the masses to shape elections? WTF...yeah OK..

The first phone hacking enquiry carried out by the 'Police' Andy Hayman led no where - see www.freedompress.org.uk... or, www.guardian.co.uk...

The same Andy Hayman who was having an 'alleged' relationship with someone at the IPCC - talk about conflict of interests... The IPCC is lame anyway (was going to apply for a job with them ages ago), realised they don't have any power...

I think there is probably much more to come from this however, I think the bigger the initial storm is, the quicker it will die down. IMO (not based on any fact) Rebekah Brooks either is/had an affair with Murdoch or, is his illegitimate child...jut thought id throw that out there?!

Originally posted by marker3221
A new development:

Senator calls investigation into whether Murdoch papers hacked Americans' phones


If this spreads to News Corp in the US it is game over for Murdoch.

edit on 13-7-2011 by marker3221 because: (no reason given)

Notice the name of the senator calling for the investigation. This is the elite going after the elite.

Senator John Rockefeller, chairman of the committee on commerce, science and transportation, said phone hacking at the News of the World raised "serious questions" about whether the newspaper's parent company had broken any U.S. laws.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

reply to post by Laurauk


nice one on the link...covers most of what I was trying to reiterate

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by marker3221
A new development:

Senator calls investigation into whether Murdoch papers hacked Americans' phones


If this spreads to News Corp in the US it is game over for Murdoch.

edit on 13-7-2011 by marker3221 because: (no reason given)

Notice the name of the senator calling for the investigation. This is the elite going after the elite.

Senator John Rockefeller, chairman of the committee on commerce, science and transportation, said phone hacking at the News of the World raised "serious questions" about whether the newspaper's parent company had broken any U.S. laws.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

If Murdochs Newscorp has hacked the victims of 9/11 then he is finished

Maybe you should do a thread on this on behalf of American users?

reply to post by CrankyPantsUK


I already did, it didnt get much traction. www.abovetopsecret.com...

They have withdrawn their bid for BSKYB, a big turn around, if one can say. I knew something was going on when they decided to use the money they had set aside to buy BSKYB, to buy back some of their shares in News International yesterday.

Which has been reported on this website:

Ats Murdoch Withdraws Bid

Now Murdoch does not have to present himself in front off the culture committee next week if he decides not to,. And they do not have the powers to compel him to do so, since he is not a British Citizen.

What 'they' say and reality are two different things!?

Like I said, give it a year 2 let the dust settle and the BskyB bid will probably be allowed through; also does murdoch look like a man who has 'lost' - no.

Murdoch senior is pretty old so possibly hasn't got long left, his idiot son will take the NI mantra - and attempt a new BskyB bid when the dust has settled?!....pure speculation BTW