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Originally posted by dragonseeker
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Wow, so, anyone who wants a high position in american life is a sellout, huh? And that, right there, encapsulates the hell black folks get from other black folks for achieving anything at all in america. when you say "sell their soul" you're just using polite language for oreo, house 'n-word', and so forth. it's the worst kind of, first of all, factually incorrect, but furthermore, self-hating, self-defeatist thinking that KEEPS US DOWN. It's that kind of vicious attack on black folks by black folks that keep black folks from going forward as a whole, instead of the splintered mess we have now. jewish people were enslaved, but they overcame and work as one big unit. same with asians, and, hell africans too. all these cultures come here with pocket change and own businesses of their own in 10 years or less, and get on with their lives..only black folks INSIST on attacking our best and brightest as inauthentic and sellouts..and, yeah, I have actually gotten to the point where I consider myself an american of african descent, not "black" at all. if you think about it, "black" is meaningless. I'm american. I have no connection to the people calling themselves black nowadays, as they themselves remind me every time I use proper grammar, instead of screaming "yo yo wuzzup nigga". they think they're keepin' it real, and they are...
real #ing stupid.edit on 4-7-2011 by dragonseeker because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Sigh...I hate to do this but you obviously did not read the entire thread. Go back one page and read my entire port.
Again I will say that the perpetrators of this fight HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CARNIVAL nor did they have any real ties to the West Indian community.
These were neighborhood thugs/gangs fighting and unfortunately the fight spilled over and into the carnival.
The carnival runs annually on Georgia Avenue for aprox. the past 10 year and NEVER has such as thing as this happened.
Educate yourself dude.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Originally posted by dragonseeker
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Wow, so, anyone who wants a high position in american life is a sellout, huh? And that, right there, encapsulates the hell black folks get from other black folks for achieving anything at all in america. when you say "sell their soul" you're just using polite language for oreo, house 'n-word', and so forth. it's the worst kind of, first of all, factually incorrect, but furthermore, self-hating, self-defeatist thinking that KEEPS US DOWN. It's that kind of vicious attack on black folks by black folks that keep black folks from going forward as a whole, instead of the splintered mess we have now. jewish people were enslaved, but they overcame and work as one big unit. same with asians, and, hell africans too. all these cultures come here with pocket change and own businesses of their own in 10 years or less, and get on with their lives..only black folks INSIST on attacking our best and brightest as inauthentic and sellouts..and, yeah, I have actually gotten to the point where I consider myself an american of african descent, not "black" at all. if you think about it, "black" is meaningless. I'm american. I have no connection to the people calling themselves black nowadays, as they themselves remind me every time I use proper grammar, instead of screaming "yo yo wuzzup nigga". they think they're keepin' it real, and they are...
real #ing stupid.edit on 4-7-2011 by dragonseeker because: (no reason given)
Now my use of "sellout" isn't the same as often hurtled by ignorant people. I mean that a black person has to sell out or "go all in" into this white culture. A black person must present themselves as being non-threatening to white people.
I'm not saying this is wrong, as I later digressed, I see this as being the answer and actually related to a Moorish teaching. This Moorish teaching says we as black people should no longer see ourselves as "black". That's accepting of a label which further circulates the circle of ingnorance many are trapped in.
As you say, we should see ourselves as being "american" not black american.
Originally posted by dragonseeker
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Originally posted by dragonseeker
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Wow, so, anyone who wants a high position in american life is a sellout, huh? And that, right there, encapsulates the hell black folks get from other black folks for achieving anything at all in america. when you say "sell their soul" you're just using polite language for oreo, house 'n-word', and so forth. it's the worst kind of, first of all, factually incorrect, but furthermore, self-hating, self-defeatist thinking that KEEPS US DOWN. It's that kind of vicious attack on black folks by black folks that keep black folks from going forward as a whole, instead of the splintered mess we have now. jewish people were enslaved, but they overcame and work as one big unit. same with asians, and, hell africans too. all these cultures come here with pocket change and own businesses of their own in 10 years or less, and get on with their lives..only black folks INSIST on attacking our best and brightest as inauthentic and sellouts..and, yeah, I have actually gotten to the point where I consider myself an american of african descent, not "black" at all. if you think about it, "black" is meaningless. I'm american. I have no connection to the people calling themselves black nowadays, as they themselves remind me every time I use proper grammar, instead of screaming "yo yo wuzzup nigga". they think they're keepin' it real, and they are...
real #ing stupid.edit on 4-7-2011 by dragonseeker because: (no reason given)
Now my use of "sellout" isn't the same as often hurtled by ignorant people. I mean that a black person has to sell out or "go all in" into this white culture. A black person must present themselves as being non-threatening to white people.
I'm not saying this is wrong, as I later digressed, I see this as being the answer and actually related to a Moorish teaching. This Moorish teaching says we as black people should no longer see ourselves as "black". That's accepting of a label which further circulates the circle of ingnorance many are trapped in.
As you say, we should see ourselves as being "american" not black american.
all due respect, but you're being weasel-ly. sellout is just that. it doesn't mean something different when YOU say it and you go on to describe someone who turns their back on their culture to fit into white culture. it's not a compliment. It's possible to exist in "white" culture without selling out. america was built by people who assimilated to a certain degree, while keeping true to their roots. again, only black folks see this as a negative. I've seen plenty of other cultures assimilate into american society and not get the accusations lobbed at them that black people lob at each other. my last post in this thread, I've made my point.
Originally posted by enigma91
Alright, I can't be the only one that just busted up laughing as the cops showed up on Segways right?
That was the last thing I expected to see. Priceless.