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So you're telling me you believe in demons? Would that make you a good God fearing Christian then? When it comes to these old stories, and Wikipedia, I take them with a grain of salt.
Originally posted by pepsi78
From what I know Goat means head, From Capricorn that is asembled from capri, and corn capri/cap meaning head and corn meaning horn, henche the word capricorn.
Originally posted by Augustusmasonicus
Capricorn is literal for 'horned goat' as in a male goat...
Originally posted by pepsi78
...but it also means horned goat.
I have put the idea of demons on the fantasy shelve as I see no evidence that they exist. The existence of God, on the other hand, I see evidence of his creation all around us. I think there are many ways to interpret the old texts and not all necessarily involve supernatural beings.
Of course I think such things exist or existed, just like I think there is a god/creator of all there is. It's not so far fetched really
Funny, I always thought the reason for secret societies was to hide from the murderous inquisitions conducted by the Catholic church throughout history. Now there one might find some true to life demons. The mind is a powerful thing.
if we did not think these things existed we would not be here in the secret sociaty forum and masonry would no longer be part of the conspiracy theories you see around.
I have put the idea of demons on the fantasy shelve as I see no evidence that they exist. The existence of God, on the other hand, I see evidence of his creation all around us. I think there are many ways to interpret the old texts and not all necessarily involve supernatural beings.
Funny, I always thought the reason for secret societies was to hide from the murderous inquisitions conducted by the Catholic church throughout history. Now there one might find some true to life demons. The mind is a powerful thing.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Goat means head...
caper -ri, m. A. Lit., a he-goat
...it is you who is in doubt not me.
caper -ri, m. A. Lit., a he-goat
wordinfo.info...:achieve
capit-, capt-, cap-, cep-, ceps-, chapt-, chef, cip-
(Latin: head; leader, chief, or first)
A more useful employment of the contents of your capitis (head) may acutally lead to you learing something.
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Hedgehogs are known for their spiky, spiny coats. The Italian capriccio is a combination of capo, "head" and riccio, "hedgehog", and its original meaning was "hedgehog head", a description of someone so frightened or astonished that the hair on his, or her, head "stood on end".
Secondary.
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Origin:
Capricious comes, via French, from Italian capriccio, a shivering, a shudder, finally (influenced by Italian capra, goat) a whim, from capo, head (from Latin caput) + riccio, hedgehog (from Latin ericius). The basic idea is that of a head with hair standing on end, like the spines of a hedgehog.
Now for corn.
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1375–1425; late Middle English corne < Anglo-French, Middle French < Latin cornū horn, hence a horny hardening of the cuticle. See cornu
Originally posted by pepsi78
Goat means head...
caper -ri, m. A. Lit., a he-goat
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Slavic : " 'kazhbishchie", from " 'ka'zati", " 'skazati", as in Ukrainian "ka'zannia". The stem can also be observed in the Baltic Languages "kalba", thus " 'kalbyshche" or " ''kaprishche" from the Latin " 'caper". Also, interesting one-stem words will be " 'galba" (Baltic), " ' galva" (head), " 'kapli/yshche" (Old Slavic - the place of worshipping).
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“A hood (capitulum) is commonly called a capitulare. This is also called a cappa (i.e. another word for 'hood,' or perhaps 'kerchief'), because it has two tips like the letter kappa, or because it is an ornament for the head (caput).” [The Etymologies of Isidore of Seville, 7th century AD, p.390.]
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Origin:
1350–1400; Middle English cap < Middle French < Old Provençal < Vulgar Latin *capum for Latin caput head
caper -ri, m. A. Lit., a he-goat
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caper
N M
he-goat| billy-goat; goatish/armpit smell; star in Auriga (L+S); grunting fish
Originally posted by pepsi78
1 you do not have a source.
2 Caper is the male goat, examples have been provided with it.
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caper
N M
he-goat| billy-goat; goatish/armpit smell; star in Auriga (L+S); grunting fish
Originally posted by pepsi78
Examples have been provided for caper, capra, capricorn linked to the head.
caper -ri, m. A. Lit., a he-goat
How about the Oxford English Dictionary, perhaps the best linguistic resource ever compiled?
Originally posted by pepsi78
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
Examples have been provided to you, from dictionaries and other sources.
No head.
Etymology: < French capricorne or < Latin capricornus ‘goat-horned’ (the Zodiacal sign), < caper, capr-um goat + cornu horn; compare Greek αἰγόκερως.
dictionary.reference.com...
Origin:
Capricious comes, via French, from Italian capriccio, a shivering, a shudder, finally (influenced by Italian capra, goat) a whim, from capo, head (from Latin caput) + riccio, hedgehog (from Latin ericius). The basic idea is that of a head with hair standing on end, like the spines of a hedgehog.
wordinfo.info...:27
Latin: head; leader, chief, or first
capit-, capt-, cap-, cep-, ceps-, chapt-, chef, cip-
www.phoenixmasonry.org...
The broken column denotes the untimely death of our Grand Master Hiram Abiff; the beautiful virgin weeping, the temple unfinished
masonic.wikidot.com...
Hiram was one of the most noted of all the Kings of Tyre; he was contemporaneous with both David and Solomon, and on intimate terms with both. Like Solomon, he was much disposed to mysticism
Demons are out of my reach because they do not exist. I do, however, believe in the power of human thought to invoke such 'demon like' behavior in people. No magic here, just ignorance and blind faith.
If daemons were out of your reach how could you see them ?
Where you see malicious invisible creatures I see ignorant superstitions and the power of human thought.
There are many stories with malefic spirits doing things, always when they are invoked, invited.
If they were into sacrificing a goat to the B-B-Q pit and drinking beer then I'm in.
they are into goat sacrifice and drinking goat blood