Mammoth etching on bone found near Vero Beach is authentic!!!!

Mammoth etching on bone found near Vero Beach is authentic!!!!

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The Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., has found no reason to dispute the authenticity of an unprecedented archaeological discovery that might help confirm a human presence in Florida up to 13,000 years ago.

In early 2009, fossil collector James Kennedy cleaned off an old bone he found two years earlier and noticed some lines on it — lines that turned out to be a clear etching of a walking mammoth with tusks.

The bone came from an area north of Vero Beach, but the exact location hasn

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it has been certified by the annalysis made that this foosil is dated 13000 years of age.

it is amazing how new things keep coming at an awkward rate, seems it is not only a new info revolution but unknown things come everyday after, besides our pace to keep the trace on them

SIMPLY AMAZING
The link is in spanish but the original news article is in english
Sorry for that


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I remember discussing this finding here on ATS a year or two ago, and I still have a lot of questions about the authenticity of the finding.

It is very interesting to see an actual update to this surface, but it is kind of sad that it takes years to develop. It is understandable though, because our system has so much red tape and paperwork to organize first...

Thanks for the update though, I wonder what conclusions they will be making now that they have conducted these tests?

Mammoths in Florida? But I thought the are in places like Europe, Siberia, Montana and Los Angeles(La Brea Tar Pits)?

UF scientists estimate that the engraving could be traced back to the last ice age thousands of years before the construction of Stonehenge, the circle of large stone blocks of the famous Neolithic period in England.

The engraving carved in mammoth bone shows a walk and "is the oldest and the only known example of art in the Ice Age that draws a Proboscidea (animal horn) in the Americas," he said in a statement Smithsonian.

It's actually a huge find if it is indeed authentic.

However I often times realize that our "official timeline" is totally inaccurate and not very credible. Especially when we get several thousand years into the past it becomes very foggy.

I agree that the artifact is most likely very ancient. However I disagree with putting an exact number on it's age because our dating techniques lose accuracy as the age of the dated material increases.

pity they didn't release the exact location, or i'd be over there in a heart beat..with a shovel. lots of pottery and indian artifacts all around here, only trouble is...it isn't exactly legal to go around picking it up, unless you or someone you know owns the property.

apparently this is the first wooly mammoth drawing found in north america. undoubtedly there were alot around, as there teeth and skeletons have been found, but its surprising that there aren't any other drawings. although... i know a family of palaeontologists, and i was told gravestones with very accurate dinosaur depictions were found, and suppressed, because it contradicts evolutionary theory.

Just another little window into the secret world of "archeology". It is a shame that so many things that have been unearthed are suppressed due to the fact they do not fall in line with "accepted theory".

They need to let the evidence take them where it takes them, regardless of what preconceived notions it may shatter.

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I guess that`s the real contradiction

The more controversial knowledge is beeing released, the more they try to keep it away from the status quo`s accepted version.

Its like trying to block out the sun with the palm of your hands

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i certanily don`t know much about carbon dating techniques, but if it is just near in the promoted dating stated in the article, sure it will be astonishing for those that accept the enciclopedical view of the world and don`t accept anomalies trough the evolution

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carbon dating is accurate in theory, but in practice, it is unknown. you can date back to around 55,000 years with it, but it assumes that there was always a constant level of carbon-14 in the atmosphere. any massive destruction of plant life would throw its accuracy off, making things appear much older.

its actually not too complicated. nitrogen 14 is released into the upper atmosphere, and is struck by an energetic neutron (it doesn't happen often because neutrons must first be struck with cosmic radiation from the sun), a proton is ejected, and poof, you have carbon 14. C-14 has a half-life of about 5730 years. once the C-14 falls to earth it is absorbed by plants (then eaten by animals), and the amount per mol of matter (6.02 x 10^23 atoms, like 12 is a dozen, that number of atoms is 1 mol) is pretty constant due to the law of averages. a certain percent of those atoms in each mol will be C-14. the amount that is analyzed in samples from the organism is compared to the amount each mol should have, and then its just a simple math equation to see how long the average amount takes to decay to the amount found.

its very sad things are suppressed, why can't people just accept things as they are? believing something that could very well be false is foolish.

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wow i thought it was more complicated than that

I guess you did it the simpliest way, but for me a Spanish-mother-tongue-average-citizen was pretty clear

thanks for the explanation

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i know a family of palaeontologists, and i was told gravestones with very accurate dinosaur depictions were found, and suppressed, because it contradicts evolutionary theory.

Suppression? What suppression?

The Smithsonian declared it HERESY that other ancient civilizations may have visited the shores of North and South America during the many millennia before Columbus. It had been alleged that the Smithsonian at one time had actually taken a barge full of unusual artifacts out into the Atlantic and dumped them in the ocean.

Warning: The above is alleged. Not proven. But I have no problem believing it. Considering the Smithsonian IS a federal institution.

On Topic: There seems to be a lot of things that turn up in this age range. Interesting.

Originally posted by N1thNa1ath
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wow i thought it was more complicated than that

I guess you did it the simpliest way, but for me a Spanish-mother-tongue-average-citizen was pretty clear

thanks for the explanation

edit on 24-6-2011 by N1thNa1ath because: (no reason given)

i'm glad you found it useful i love science. everything's simple once you understand it =P

Suppression? What suppression?

there could be a whole thread dedicated to suppressed artifacts without even getting into any crazy conspiracy theories. it wouldn't surprise me if they did dump those things, it seems we are back in the middle ages, except it isn't the church suppressing things this time! maybe there is credence for evolution being classified as a religion after all

but i digress. i'm prepared to follow the evidence wherever it leads, and its disturbing that anyone would want to knowingly suppress evidence so they could continue to believe their own lies.

Within common sense or reason, I do think we need to be a lot more open minded about our ancient history.

Does the article discern when the etchings were actualy made?, and how it supports that claim?

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
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carbon dating is accurate in theory, but in practice, it is unknown. you can date back to around 55,000 years with it, but it assumes that there was always a constant level of carbon-14 in the atmosphere. any massive destruction of plant life would throw its accuracy off, making things appear much older.

Look it up. C12 is calibrated to take that into account, also, one date is no date.

Without reading the links or further posts, has it been determined that this bone came from that area and was not carried there from some lace else in the world?

13,000 years dosn't seem too far fetched....


As a member of the Muskogee/Ocmulgee Creek Indian tribe, an offshoot of the Mississipian culture, we KNOW, for a FACT that we have inhabited the Southeastern United States for at least 10,000 years. Whats another 3000 years?

We, within the culture, do not need science to date our history. After all, we were here before science, and will likely be here when science is gone.

Good for them though. It does lend a little credibility to our history.

Science is well and good, but sometimes the easiest way to find a tooth worth pulling, you need only ask the mouth.

Originally posted by OneEleven
As a member of the Muskogee/Ocmulgee Creek Indian tribe, an offshoot of the Mississipian culture, we KNOW, for a FACT that we have inhabited the Southeastern United States for at least 10,000 years.

Please share your source...just cuz that's the kind of place this is.

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the hopi indians have a tablet on one of their mesas that dated back 10,000-30,000 years(one of 4 tablets, one was given to the whites, one to the blacks, one to the asians, and another to the hopi. all of them are still around.), lending credence to your history as well.