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Originally posted by Majic

Originally posted by LadyV
I work a full time job, have a husband with a TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) I'm raising my 6 year granddaughter, I front a local alternative rock band...and I still have time to be a tattle tell when I find something thtat I feel merrits it...

And where is she going next? I predict: Disneyland!

Can you explain that please?....thank you...

EDIT...I think that's to be Didneyland...

[edit on 8/16/2004 by LadyV]

My deepest apologies for the outburst. It seems an old ad campaign from the days when I owned a television surfaced from deep within my subconscous and took over my mouse.

Wait... Mouse... Mouse? MOUSE! Nooooooooooo!

This forum is now dead.....

Was that the goal?

maybe they can start anyother fourm called member predictions??? just a thought

In 2012 some stuff will happen..and it has started happened with some people...in that year the human brain will receive other informations...the human sociaty will change.......

Just to be clear: now the BTS dream/predictions forum is closed to personal predictions as well?

I'm just wondering. Both forums do seem to be quite dead & lifeless. I wonder if we can have before & after stats of traffic to these forums pre- and post- personal predictions ban.

However, I do applaud the integrity it took to ban those stupid personal predictions. Though I do visit ATS a lot less than I used to, because I personally found the personal predictions to be entertaining.

Cassie Clay I agree fully with you those forums were rather entertaining - and there was even more schadenfreude when the phrophet fell flat on their faces, which from my calculation was 100% of the time.

However I still believe that there is equal drivel on other topics and I would love to have the Predictions Topic back. But it won't happen.

ok, so like, according to this thread, I actually got a "hit" on my predictions:
www.belowtopsecret.com...
If you read my additional info at the bottom of the thread, it think it adds even more "weight" to it.

You can say that it was all just a big coincidence, but I hit on too many details.

At the very least, I think it is very interesting. And I got a ton of 'em. Members should be allowed to do personal predictions.

My two cents.

Since the new rules have been in place i have stopped coming here, it seems to have turned into another Religion board.With little more than armagedon and bible prophecies, it use to be a good tool and measure to see if other people were picking up on events in the future that members like myself wanted validation on.(it almost forces people to make predictions under the guise of remote viewing)

It was kind of fun to see what people like the"south beach psychic" and "CassieClay" were comming up with, and the ats members who would try to either verify information or offer constructive analysis.

Im not sure what the answer is for this board, but the current guidelines suck all the life out of it the way it is now.

Parker


[edit on 9-10-2004 by parker]

[edit on 9-10-2004 by parker]

[edit on 9-10-2004 by parker]

On the bright side, people like me are now free to focus on other things in our lives. Since these forums split, I have been posting less and meditating more.

In fairness, most of that work has been off-topic, and so does not appear here -- and probably wouldn't (or shouldn't) anyway.

I'm having a hard time seeing that as necessarily a bad thing, since I am now spending more time on self-examination, developing my ability to communicate with discarnate spirits and exploring the nature of Creation, reality and the relationships between the physical and spiritual world.

I, for one, don't see ATS as needing to be all things to all people, respect the rights of the staff to organize and manage the website and its discussion boards however they see fit, and think they do an outstanding job. ATS is one of my favorite websites.

Having said that, I still find myself scratching my head about what constitutes a "previously-published clairvoyant (with links)" and "ancient prophecies", versus "random posting of member's predictions".

If I'm right about where my prophecies come from, they are more ancient than the beginning of this universe, but they do not appear to qualify under the forum guidelines.

Would posting to a different website than ATS and linking to it somehow give me legitimacy? I have a few websites of my own (completely unrelated to spiritualism in any form), and setting up a vanity website -- which a lot of these "published" sources actually are -- is a trivial undertaking.

Many "legitimate" sources used in ATS postings are nothing more than something that I myself could set up in a few hours if I wanted to.

Despite my initial welcome for this editorial decision, I'm still finding myself struggling with the questions it raises, and unable to come up with any satisfactory answers. Maybe what I do is just not suited to rigorous classification.

Ironically, I find myself somewhat relieved that my prophecy postings in the BTS Dreams & Personal Predictions don't get a lot of traffic, because I am still extremely ambivalent about the whole "being a prophet" business, and feeling a very strong desire not to post publicly about it further but pursue a more private path instead.

What will happen will happen, it's not my job to save the world. Being in the "BTS ghetto" serendipitously gives me some time to think this all over.

I'm still pretty shocked that I have posted so much personal information online. I doubt I would have ever done that anywhere else. Nothing like this would have ever appeared on my own website which bears my real name.

My transition from a skeptical techie to a skeptical mystic and philosopher prophet is documented in a rather detailed way on ATS, and was heavily influenced by the excellent feedback from my fellow ATSers. I will always be grateful for that, and the experiences of the past two months have changed me forever.

Nonetheless, I find myself looking for other venues besides ATS/BTS that are more suited to the kinds of things I find myself needing to talk about.

I'm not posting this as a complaint, because again, I think ATS is extremely well-managed, but I thought I owed it to the staff to explain why I find myself coming back less and less these days.

It may just be a matter of diverging interests. If that's the case, there's really no one to blame, nor a reason to try to assign blame. Choice is what the Internet is all about.

Frankly, I'm not sure why I posted this at all, but just thought I would share my current musings on the state of affairs, for whatever that's worth.

This form is actually managed in the same manner that all the other forums are on ATS. A post stating "I'm running for President" wouldn't be allowed to stay on Politics and Scandals, and someone with a post that said "I made a new slingshot" would not belong in Weaponry. Allowing this would lead to members posting "I built a bottle rocket", and "I rubbed to matches together and made fire".

I was actually thinking about this yesterday. I do miss the personal predictions, (like yours) that seemed serious and well thought out. Maybe if we put some effort into it, the Dreams and Personal Predictions forum on BTS can get some good stuff going in it. This site is really what you make of it. What we make of it. There's actually an interesting dream that someone posted yesterday. Haven't seen anyone else but myself comment on it. If someone like yourself, and a few other serious people work at it, the BTS predictions could become very popular. I just wanted to encourage you to not give up. Maybe SkepticOverlord will have a sealed prediction or clairvoyant discussion as he mentioned earlier.

dbates, I wholeheartedly agree with your point and with the staff decision, and hope I'm not misrepresenting myself. You guys kick some major buttocks, and run one of the best sites going.

Perhaps my musings are nothing more than a projection of my own confusion about the matter.

It is vital and necessary on a huge site like this to classify and organize information to make it useful. Without it, ATS would be a hopeless mess, and probably not very popular at all. So I am definitely on board with the excellent work of the staff in organizing it!

But my "Confessions" thread seemed somehow out of place the whole time I was posting to it. Was it really a "paranormal study"?

As for my prophecies, yes they are predictions, but they are presented based on the hypothesis that they are actually memories, not views of the future. I don't know for sure, but I don't think anyone can actually see the future. So the "Yoshiel" stuff also seems out of place.

I'm not offering any of this as criticism, because I really am not sure if there is a better way to handle this than the way the ATS staff is handling it.

Maybe it's just me feeling a little angst about the whole thing.

I can tell you, in all sincerity, that two months ago I most definitely could never have predicted that I would even be all that interested in any of these topics, let alone spouting the huge volumes of diary-like stuff I ended up posting.

Now I am experiencing things that are well beyond anything I have posted here, and don't know where I should post them, or if I should post them at all. There just doesn't seem to be a suitable category for them.

That's not the fault of the ATS staff, but a consequence of the ambiguity of classifications for such things, or a symptom of my own shortcomings.

I'm just not sure where the fallout from my meditations fits here. I have a love/hate relationship with my prophecies/memories. Dreams & Predictions? Paranormal Studies, maybe? It doesn't seem to fit to me. Where should my Cycles of Creation theory go?

The confusion is mine, because what I see within my memories covers so many different topics. Creation, reality, cognition, epistemology, the meaning of life, physics, past lives, God, prophecies, the future, destiny, freewill.

All interesting topics, but what forum could possibly be classified such that all these things can be presented together? The problem I am faced with is that in my mind, they are all inextricably linked. This puts my views on them in direct opposition to rigorous classification.

A tough nut to crack in my poor, muddled mind.

I suppose ruminating about it in this thread probably doesn't really help anything, but it is nice at least to talk about it, even if to do so is -- ironically enough -- off-topic in itself.

Some predictions from the National Review

www.nationalreview.com...

My predictions:

1. US will not capture Osama before the latter part of 2007. Pakistan will milk this for all it's worth. They're negotiating a 4-year military and economic aid package at this time.

2. The start of a transition to a theocratic state in Iraq having been started, Al Qaeda will turn its focus toward destabilizing the aging Saudi monarchy.

3. No terror attacks in the United States or in Europe. More likely in Egypt and Saudi Arabia where US-backed regimes are unpopular with the fundamentalists.

Government

1. No Social Security reform this year or in 2006. If it passes, the US dollar will crash severely as Bush's plan will push federal deficits over 1 trillion dollars per year by 2015.

2. No tax reform,

3. One of the Supremes will resign in the next year, and Bush will spend what little of his political capital (less than 50% job approval rating) on the successor for Rehnquist or one of the others.

4. No medical malpractice reform this year. The debate will start this year, but the Republicans want to save these bills for the campaign in 2006.

my only problem with the thread on BTS is I can never ever log in on BTS -- very frustrating

so sorry -- thumb spasm and hit the post button twice.

jm

[edit on 30-12-2004 by justme1640]

I have a lot of predictions but they are all in 2012...

So, I've givin this alot of though and this is all I can come up with.

Lets start with a few things I do know.

1) The earth is changing, and it is directly linked to the sun.

2) End of the world as we know it, the appocolyps ? No a new beginning 2012.,

3) Myans, and where did they go?

4) Polar shift? hmm if so, cool, but not for us.

5) When ice melts, it will fill our oceans, and bury our lands. But what does that mean when the suns energy gets reflected? or absorbed!

OK so the Earth is going to be covered with more water. Water has a high specific heat. This means that it takes more energy to heat it up, one degree. Yet it stores it just as well. HMMM ok so adding more water to our Earth's atmospheric system you will have stronger, or more frequent storms. You will see a development in snow caps, ice caps, and glaciers everwhere. But not all in one year of course. Things do take time, or do the? I guess we dont really know how fast things can change, but for both the dinasaurs, and the mammoths we dig up today we can guess that things can change fast.

Volcanoes are also acting up, and my theory is that the sun is doing it. Durring our solar minimum we are living through a swarm of sun spots and other weird unexplanable phenomenon. The earths core is expanding, ,, causeing the earths mantle to become more thin, and unstable. We've seen nothing yet, compared to what were in for. All in all I have settled on 2012, because it feels right, and knoledge picked up by several atricles all found on some other threads have led me to say what I am saying.

PS Love the site

I think that the problem here is that some people just can't do the difference between real predictions (visions, prophecies etc) and opinions, based on facts and deductions, that would belong more to science forums.

When or what is actually a true Prediction???

And on what do we base a prediction on?
Dont tell me someone on the likes of Nostradamus?

So If I actually post prophecy that IS NOT my own....since I cannot know the future.......where is the post I made....
Yes, Byrd........You said in the u2u that it went into personal predictions ....
Why?
Its not my own....

I waited for a u2u from you......and looked in the forums for the Prophecy on the end of times......
Sorry if I seem upset........and I posted this here because Its not fair if rules are rules...for all
helen.......

Asala..........Thankyou

helen.....