Orgasm by Thought alone? Rutgers University says Yes!

reply to post by dominicus


Alright maybe you can but it will take an insanely big amount of time to reach it. And still I doubt it. I bet everyone here claiming they did do just that are liars. Although I won't be able to prove it... Nor them...

reply to post by dominicus


As an interesting juxtaposition, a younger female aquaintance of mine asked for my advice on an issue she is having, which without going into personal detail involves the notion of 'forced orgasm' (within a consensual, legal relationship). My instant reaction to what said practice involves was, couldn't happen...because if my brain isn't into it, the rest of me certainly isn't going to be. The other way around though...easily done....isn't that what 'wet dreams' are after all...women may lack the outward emissions, but we can still experience orgasm during dream state without other, or physical stimulus. What this study is showing, doesn't seem to be too dissimilar to that situation.

reply to post by Angrybadger


No. Absolutely not. No kid orgasms in their sleep. Even when they have dreams where they are "doing it", they never reach the orgasm stage, it either cuts off or you wake up before it. Otherwise the proof would be in the bed sheets and the proof is never there.

reply to post by Jepic


Ugh. This isn't like trying to prove whether or not aliens exist. It's a bodily function that everybody has access to. Don't be jealous 'cuz it doesn't happen to you It doesn't always cut off in a dream. Like I said previously I have woken up to it happening from a dream. I have not tried to mentally do it on my own though while awake, but I have woken up to the finish.

Me thinks you might be looking for this sort of TMI haha.

reply to post by Jepic

No. Absolutely not. No kid orgasms in their sleep. Even when they have dreams where they are "doing it", they never reach the orgasm stage, it either cuts off or you wake up before it. Otherwise the proof would be in the bed sheets and the proof is never there.

Wow ...u seem like a super skeptic, like if we even showed you visual physical proof you still wouldn't believe.

When I was in my early teens, I would have these dreams with emissions on a regular basis, and then would have to change my sheets because I was "embarrassed"

Even now, being a spiritual cultivator and meditator, and living mostly a solitary celebate life, any time I near 30-40 days without any kind of self induced release ...the dream world takes care of it for me.

The reason I posted this thread, was because I just had one of these dreams 2 days ago and was interested in the connection between mind/body and to see if it was possible to reach an orgasm by thought alone in the wakefu state.

I dont think you would want my proof from 2 days ago .....although if science and labs were involved, I'd happily oblige

Originally posted by Pythein
reply to post by dominicus

 

As an interesting juxtaposition, a younger female aquaintance of mine asked for my advice on an issue she is having, which without going into personal detail involves the notion of 'forced orgasm' (within a consensual, legal relationship). My instant reaction to what said practice involves was, couldn't happen...because if my brain isn't into it, the rest of me certainly isn't going to be. The other way around though...easily done....isn't that what 'wet dreams' are after all...women may lack the outward emissions, but we can still experience orgasm during dream state without other, or physical stimulus. What this study is showing, doesn't seem to be too dissimilar to that situation.

I personally think forced orgasm is possible as well. However I think it's more complex as to the situation. If it is consenual it might just be the case of forced orgasm due to role play which is a whole different game to itself, which is very much a mind game too ei you convince yourself you're not into it, but you really are into it on a much deeper level. However I also don't think you need to be sexually aroused to have an orgasm either. *shrug* Are we allowed to talk about this stuff on ATS? Sorry if I'm breaking any rules mods.

reply to post by seeker11


I would expect, theoretically of course that while conscious, that it is very hard not to start flexing the muscles, in which case, it soon isn't so much by brain power alone, and the concentration it would require not to 'flex', would soon kill the 'thought' side of it. If you know what I mean....

...not sure I do, reading back.

Originally posted by Jepic
reply to post by Angrybadger

 

No. Absolutely not. No kid orgasms in their sleep. Even when they have dreams where they are "doing it", they never reach the orgasm stage, it either cuts off or you wake up before it. Otherwise the proof would be in the bed sheets and the proof is never there.

LOL have you never heard of wet dreams?

Try going a month without touching yourself and tell me it doesn't exist lol.

reply to post by seeker11


And do you find the "proof" on your bed when you wake up afterwards. If not then you haven't really made it.
Besides even if you can do it via thought or you do it in your dream, it won't come even close to the effects of the real thing.

reply to post by Jepic


The proof???!! I'm a woman...not the same kind of proof that a man gets. My proof is that I had an orgasm upon waking due to the dream I was having. Hmmm what sort of proof...well if I had tried again on my own I wouldn't have been able to achieve the same thing much like a man could not just do it all again 1 minute later. *sigh*

The proof you request you will never find and you know this. So why bother? Just keep thinking that because it never happens to you it can't possibly ever happen to anybody else.

Originally posted by Jepic
reply to post by seeker11

 

And do you find the "proof" on your bed when you wake up afterwards. If not then you haven't really made it.
Besides even if you can do it via thought or you do it in your dream, it won't come even close to the effects of the real thing.

You really need to research wet dreams... not to go into details but I can vividly remember waking up in a wet mess a few times.

The wife and I have both gotten off by just looking at each other, without touching ourselves or each other. We have also tried it at times and failed. Guess timing is everything.

Originally posted by seeker11
I personally think forced orgasm is possible as well. However I think it's more complex as to the situation. If it is consenual it might just be the case of forced orgasm due to role play which is a whole different game to itself, which is very much a mind game too ei you convince yourself you're not into it, but you really are into it on a much deeper level. However I also don't think you need to be sexually aroused to have an orgasm either. *shrug* Are we allowed to talk about this stuff on ATS? Sorry if I'm breaking any rules mods.

Almost exactly what I said to her...you have to be into the idea of it before you pretend not to like it...I suggested she watch some Japanese porn, she keeps looking at the more extreme side and scaring herself.

I think that you can certainly induce ejaculation, as a motor response to specific stimulus, but that is not an orgasm (or even accompanied by orgasm), that is just a release of a build up of fluid (in females). But, what will and will not bring an individual to orgasm can vastly differ from one person to the next, so I certainly don't think it is impossible, but I think there is less 'force' to it, more the pretence of force.

reply to post by _Phoenix_


Okay I just researched "wet dream" in wikipedia, and I don't think it's the same thing as the real thing. In other words I don't think it's as vivid as the real thing, thus it can't be considered a real orgasm.
I don't know if I ever had a wet dream but I've had erotic dreams if that's what wet dream means...

Also there is something I wanted to say about "the proof" but I'm afraid of braking the T&C since I'm not so familiar on the site's rule on this matter.

Originally posted by Jepic
reply to post by _Phoenix_

 

Okay I just researched "wet dream" in wikipedia, and I don't think it's the same thing as the real thing. In other words I don't think it's as vivid as the real thing, thus it can't be considered a real orgasm.
I don't know if I ever had a wet dream but I've had erotic dreams if that's what wet dream means...

Also there is something I wanted to say about "the proof"

but I'm afraid of braking the T&C since I'm not so familiar on the site's rule on this matter.

Yeah we need to be careful what we say lol.

I can say that to me it did feel different, but it was definitely vivid enough to wake me up.

It has happened to me in meditation before...when I wasn't thinking about sex...or anything.

People wonder why I am so disciplined about meditating daily. haha

reply to post by seeker11


Alright I believe what you say is true, but an orgasm from a wet dream is not the same as an orgasm from the real thing. But we may be talking semantics here.

I guess since it's never happened to me I can't quite wrap my head around it.

reply to post by _Phoenix_


Right! So do we agree that the furthest you can reach in a wet dream is a climax, not an orgasm?

Originally posted by Jepic
reply to post by seeker11

 

Alright I believe what you say is true, but an orgasm from a wet dream is not the same as an orgasm from the real thing. But we may be talking semantics here.

I guess since it's never happened to me I can't quite wrap my head around it.

haha. well if i wake up and it is physically happening to me is it still a wet dream? like i said i don't wake up with the memory of it happening in my dream i wake up to it physically happening in real time. Either way it feels exactly like a regular orgasm.

Originally posted by Jepic
reply to post by _Phoenix_

 

Right! So do we agree that the furthest you can reach in a wet dream is a climax, not an orgasm?

Are you talking about a FULL body orgasm? Because I guess that would be a bit different than just a climax/orgasm of the sexual organs. Otherwise I don't see a difference.