Mexican Cartels are preparing for war

reply to post by dannikilla13


No worries; they'd just move those facilities to China or India. As far as them being able to swim, I'm well aware of that. But I'm also aware that the Panama Canal is quite wide, and after a long treck through the desert, you'd have to be very special indeed to be able to swim something like that without drowning.

reply to post by dannikilla13


Didn't it just recently come out that Iran, and Hezbollah we're working with the drug cartels in Mexico? Oh yeah, it was.www.10news.com...

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Originally posted by Hamjoe
Yes I think about 3 Drunk Texans could take em on, Don't worry about the Chinese our women take them out np

LMAO for real A bunch of Mexicans in some homemade piece crap Gonna take Texas out with the help of a few Chinese haha to funny...

back in the day, the man in black said it better than anyone.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by dannikilla13
the thousands of american soldiers AKA spring breakers have inflitrated cancun, and los cabos,

the spring breakers do not stay for 20 yrs
sucking on the Federal Teet and creating
anchor babies and draw food stamps.

Man we used to love going down to Tijuana to party. Now I haven't been in a couple years! Scared I'll get my damn head chopped off!

Originally posted by BlackStar99
reply to post by dannikilla13

 

Didn't it just recently come out that Iran, and Hezbollah we're working with the drug cartels in Mexico? Oh yeah, it was.www.10news.com...

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edit on 7-6-2011 by BlackStar99 because: (no reason given)

Are you suggesting Hezbullah is operating in Mexico?

Mexico has its own issues outside the beef between Muslims and the US government, non the less, reports are coming that more and more Mexicans are becoming Muslim:

The drug lords who build and use these vehicles do not care about immigrating to the US. They care about making more money - usually from the smuggling of drugs into the US. They are already living like kings in Mexico, getting away with crimes they could never get away with in the US. They have it made where they are, if they can manage to stay alive - and that is why they have the homemade tanks. Parts of Mexico have returned to the wild west era - with street shootouts and even mob lynchings.

Most Mexicans that I know, want nothing to do with these groups of drug cartels. Actually, illegal and legal Mexican immigration has risen due to fear of these drug lords. Mexicans are flocking to the US to escape the violence and corruption. Yet, I don't see these homemade tanks being a direct threat to the US. Relating to immigration - these tanks will just generate more fear and more illegal immigration as a result.

These amour trucks are because the Mexican border towns are just about lawless and in a constant state of war. It only makes sense that they are trying to be protected from each other and not planning some assault on the US.

The illegal drug trade is a ruthless and dangerous business. It's that simple.

What a difference a few short years make, all those drug war body-count figures started in the final days of 2006 when the newly elected Mexican president announced he was hopping the US Drug War bandwagon. It has been rock 'n roll since, and I'm not talking mellow jams.

There was a squeaker of an election in '06 with the other candidate first announced with the higher vote tally. Then after a couple week delay another man was declared winner. It was just days later that the US Drug War agenda started getting carried-out and Mexico became known for its violence since that time. And now the announcement that there are US special forces troops operating in Mexico, that is no surprise because the whole climate changed very suddenly a few brief years back, a climate I recognized.

If the Drug War is being encouraged along by the US, which it is, and the point is to create instability and put fear into the citizens of both neighboring nations, it has succeeded. There is so much knee-jerk reactions done and spoken on account of it, so much sheer stupidity happening on its account. Just keep laundering that money through US banks and everyone will be happy - those who are waging the game that is. www.abovetopsecret.com...

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My friend, trust one thing: Texas will never be "conquered". Not without turning the forests into ash and the desert into glass. Far, far too many of us are armed.

Which brings up a point. In 2008 the Supreme Court ruled that the 2nd Amendment, due to the content of the antifederalist papers, was put in place to keep the Federal Government from either invoking a tyrannical standing army, or taking preferential treatment of one militia over others. The idea was that if you arm each America (since each American male of age was considered a "militia member" for the purpose of the 2nd Amendment) you can counter act improper federal military action.

Problem is, this interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is ignored when it comes to gun control. Bear in mind, I am not advocating putting Howitzers in peoples backyards, or nukes in their basements. But to not allow The People access to weaponry that keeps our ability to serve as a "check and balanace" to the Fed Gov is, in essence, mooting a primary purpose of the 2nd Amendment, by our own Supreme Courts admission.

Which brings up another point: we are told there are three branches of our government to allow for "checks and balances". I posit that there is, in that case, a 4th branch: The People. The 2nd Amendment is the part of the Constitution that gives this authority to us. Why is this never really addressed in public education?

reply to post by Erongaricuaro


I agree that this is bigger than just some local drug cartels fighting it out. It has definitely gone downhill since 2006 - and this was supposedly during the time Mexico and the US were fighting the drug war the most. Most certainly it goes all the way to the top in both Mexican and the US business and maybe even governments. The kind of tax-free profits that are being generated can't be ignored. It's more cash than the gross domestic product of many countries. The only question I have is... When will it end? and how?

Is this a joke? All you need is road-spikes to stop those ugly things. Wars and Mexicans are like oxymoron. Have they ever won any?

Ahhhh these threads really make me angry. The OP posts a ligitimate ond disturbing development in MEXICO. and all you lot can do is whinge and whine about the USA.

Lets try again, a little harder shall we.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT IMMIGRATION!!!! OR EVEN ABOUT THE USA. IT IS ABOUT MEXICO

it you have no frame of reference other than what Fox News has told you then shut the hell up.

I am surprised that no one has noted that this "tank" was taken in rural Jalisco. the capital of which, Guadalajara, has been largely untouched from the cartel / police / army problems, and has been somewhat of a "last outpost" in metropolitan cities around Mexico, that did not have any flare up in drug related violence.

So much so that tens of thousands of people from other states (Sinaloa, Senora and Michoacan,) have been streaming into it the last 18 months or so.

Could this be a sign that rival cartels, after the death of the main head of the gang that controlled GDL is now going to start, or has started vying for Supremacy in this last peaceful western state? if it falls, there is nowhere left to go, that won't be untouched by this madness.

Originally posted by gnosticquasar
The United States seriously needs to dig its own version of the Panama Canal and shut off all trade with Mexico immediately. Mexico is the single biggest security threat my country faces right now.

Or maybe the people in the USA could curb their drug habits which lead to the demand and ruthlessness of the drug cartels? It's America's demand for Cocaine which is responsible for thousands of people dying every year.


EDIT TO ADD: Also, end the 'War on drugs' which makes trading the magic white powder such a valuable commodity.

Originally posted by lifeissacred

Originally posted by gnosticquasar
The United States seriously needs to dig its own version of the Panama Canal and shut off all trade with Mexico immediately. Mexico is the single biggest security threat my country faces right now.

Or maybe the people in the USA could curb their drug habits which lead to the demand and ruthlessness of the drug cartels? It's America's demand for Cocaine which is responsible for thousands of people dying every year.

edit on 7-6-2011 by lifeissacred because: (no reason given)

Or maybe the USA could stop the war on drugs, so we can stop funding them, and put that money back into our own economy. If you want to be told what you can and can't put in your body go to another country but this is America "Land of the kind of free"

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I like Jalisco, particularly los altos. The wife and I like making trips to lakeside Chapala/Ajijic also as she really enjoys the gringo culture and restaurants there, says it is the one place in her home country she feels like the foreigner.

More and more Americans leave Chapala, Jalisco as they become more acclimated and assimilated into the culture and a great many of them are moving here to the Morelia/Pátzcuaro area of Michoacán. There have been a couple incidents of violence but has been relatively peaceful here. For the most part the cartels are mostly invisible to the naked eye but it is law enforcement that is making itself uncomfortably conspicuous.

Lwas are on the books here to keep things from becoming a nuisance, rather different than in the US where the government comes and draws a line then lies in wait for someone to make a half-inch foot foul. Drug activity has gone on for ages here but it was always with the understanding that those who operated in those venues kept it nice an quiet and kept the people out of it and safe, they've always had to handle peace-keeping duties along with their other tasks.

Now that the heat has been applied and some leaders taken out this has created instability as those leaders are no longer in-charge, others wanting to "muscle-in" with no regard for the civilians, and law enforcement stepping into mind people's business where they never cared to bother with before.

I believe there is much more than just a drug war being orchestrated here.

Edit: I should add that the American people didn't mind Mexico's view on drug recreation during the Alcohol Prohibition period. US traffic in those days literally build the towns of Tijuana and Juarez.

Now i know why the US government wants to ban .50 bmg weapons.

They don't want us to have fun when these tanks cross the border.

The 'tanks' have a one inch thick steel plate,

A few M903 Saboted Light Armour Penetrator (SLAP) rounds will make there day fun.

Or even better the Mk211 Mod 0 Raufoss round. punch holes in them, light them up and throw shrapnel around the insides.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by ANNED
Now i know why the US government wants to ban .50 bmg weapons.

They don't want us to have fun when these tanks cross the border.

The 'tanks' have a one inch thick steel plate,

A few M903 Saboted Light Armour Penetrator (SLAP) rounds will make there day fun.

Or even better the Mk211 Mod 0 Raufoss round. punch holes in them, light them up and throw shrapnel around the insides.

en.wikipedia.org...

Yes, that must be why there are these armored trucks in Guadalajara, so they can be used to invade the US. What was I saying in an earlier post?? Oh well, it will come to me later.

You must be feeling awfully vulnerable there at that weapons station at China Lake, or do you just like having a little armament of your own to play with out there in the desert?

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I am quite sure the only reason he posted that was to "show off" how much he knows about armour piecing ballistics!

if he is in possession of any of those, then who is it we really need to be worrying about?

is there anything to THIS:

israelmatzav.blogspot.com...

Hamas and Hezbullah on US border with Mexico?

A tunnel running 250 feet beneath the U.S.-Mexican border has been discovered fully kitted out with electricity, water pumps and ventilation.........

Chief Hill said: 'This tunnel is more sophisticated than other recently discovered tunnels. They chiselled through solid rock and then installed electricity, lighting, water pumps, and ventilation.

There are two groups with expertise in designing tunnels like that: Hamas and Hezbullah.We already know that Hezbullah has operatives in Mexico and Hamas is also rumored to be involved in drug smuggling there. What could go wrong?

or is this just Israeli propaganda considering the source ?

or what about the Alex Jones article from 3 years ago ?

www.infowars.com...

Mexican Drug Cartels & Islamic Radicals Working Together

According to a U.S. government intelligence report obtained by Proceso, Hamas, Hezbollah and other radical Islamic groups have become associates of the Mexican drug trafficking cartels: they are furnishing them weapons and helping them to distribute drugs in Europe and the Middle East. Ahead of time, DEA and Justice Department officials told this weekly that “in coming days” they will conduct an operation in the border area shared by Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay – where the radical Islamic groups have settled – that will show their ties with the Mexican drug traffickers.

Washington – Islamic terrorist groups are selling arms to Mexican drug trafficking cartels and collaborating with them in order to distribute narcotics in Europe and the Middle East.

This is one of the conclusions in the report titled “Accomplishments, Fiscal Year 2007,” done by the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC), an agency of the U.S. Department of Justice.......

Brown explained that the Islamic groups earn large amounts from this, and he gave examples: “An investment of US$6,000.00, to buy a kilogram of coc aine from Mexican or Colombian drug traffickers, could yield a minimum profit of US$30,000.00 from the sale of this drug in Spain (…), US$110,000.00 in Hungary or Israel, and up to US$150,000.00 in Saudi Arabia.”

Over the last 40 years the US has spent about $2.5 trillian on the drugs war.
Approx 28,000 have been killed in the last 5 years.
This war is one of th ebigest and most expensive the US has been involved in, and it is loosing big time.
I do not advocate drug use, but I can not support a failing war which is causing so much pain to so many people. so much more than the drugs themselves do.

This new "tank" will be part of the inter cartel war for market share. This, and th mes in Mexico is a direct result of US policy. It is time it changed.

If the trillions of dollars spent on the drugs war had been spent on treating addiction adn supporting communities thw workd would be a better place.

Sources of info - a report based on US government figures