Tea Party now officially hijacked by the GOP

Doesn't everyone on ATS think that the elections are rigged?

Everyone seems to be changing their stance on things, One minute they say the elections are rigged and our vote doesn't mean anything and then they act as if our vote means something. Make up your mind!

reply to post by Rockpuck

Tea Party Express? The people that plastered Palin face on a bus and claimed to be the only Patriotic Americans?

!@$!% them!

They were founded by lawyers with tons of money who were former managers of the GOP ..

Who were these rich lawyers/former "managers" of the GOP (what the hell is a GOP manager??) ? Names, please. And how much money did they give to the TPE? And who specifically did they give it to? When was this?

it was quite literally founded BY the GOP .. it was not hijacked, because they cannot hijack themselves. Then they got a thoughtless nitwit to be their face to the public and that's all the news cared about.

Which part of the GOP 'founded' the TPE?

Needless to say, the true Tea Party died without so much as a whimper, Evangelicals now claim to be Tea Party even though they are nothing more than your typical Republican Fascist.

If the TPM "died without so much as a whimper", why are they still at the top of every newscast, and at the top of every liberal hate sheet?

People don't discern between the various Tea Parties, there are hundreds of them.. they only listen to the one with the most money .. the Tea Party Express, founded by Republicans.

TPM, TPE, same bunch of patriotic Americans that believe in Limited federal government, Individual freedoms, Personal responsibility, Free markets, and Returning political power to the states and the people. You know - the ones that you libs are terrified of because they will wreck your socialist dreams?

reply to post by Tonosama

Originally posted by mishigas
Let's be truthful here. You don't realistically expect that they would even consider voting for Obama, do you? As a matter of fact, who would consider voting for that loser? So what's the surprise here? They - every thinking adult - will make it their goal to get rid of the Boy Blunder. It's the right thing to do.

wrongo bongo

there is no better time than now for a 3rd party.

Absolutely, if your goal is to insure an Obama victory in 2012. A 3rd party will split the vote on the right and hand the election to Obama.

Not my choice, thank you.

if not now, when? do we want until we have a great.president and then start.to.vote for 3rd party candidates since it won't matter when the lose? or how about we want for a mediocre president since it won't matter. but gosh forbid we vote for a 3rd party candidates when we have a horrible president since we mUSt absolutely vote for the establishment candidates to ensure president horrible loses because, deep down inside, we don't really believe all of our own rhetoric.

We must absolutely vote Obama out of office because he is destroying our nation. You go ahead and vote for your naive ideals, I'll vote the way I want to.

When you are up to your a$$ in alligators, it is difficult to remind yourself that your initial objective was to drain the swamp.

reply to post by Ghost375

The Tea Party was hijacked by the GOP pretty much as soon as it was formed. I mean, c'mon, the speakers at tea party rallies were the most popular people in the GOP party, e.g. Sarah Palin.

Wrong. Fail. Sarah Palin has been at odds with the GOP since they ambushed her in 2008.

The "tea party" candidates were always GOP. And most Americans are too dumb to realize this.

No, the dumbness came from you saying stuff that is not true:

Tea Party Endorses Idaho Democrat

reply to post by Southern Guardian

How many third party candidates won in 2010? The tea parties had plenty of opportunities to vote in third party and they decided to stick with the GOP.

How many Dems voted third party in 2008 or 2010? How many Dems are pushing to vote third party in 2012?

Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

bible.cc...

To the op,

Don't you mean The GOP has been hijacked by the TP? Eveidently they are bowing to the will of this racist group and whoever don't like what they say is instantly railroaded by them?

To the GOP people here,

Get your party back or else this will be the new mantra from here on out.

reply to post by WeRpeons

This doesn't surprise me in the least. The tea party was always influenced by the conservative party. They are one of the same. Anybody that says anything different is just a conservative hiding behind the tea party banner.

If you're really against the same old, same old in politics, throw your hat behind Ron Paul. He's the only one that speaks his mind and doesn't follow party platforms.

There is no "conservative party". Same as there is no "liberal party".

You sit, I 'splain:

Conservative and liberal are philosophies.


Conservative

A conservative adheres to principles of personal responsibility, moral values, and limited government, agreeing with George Washington's Farewell Address that "religion and morality are indispensable supports" to political prosperity.[1][2]

Former President Ronald Reagan said, "The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom."[3]

Liberal

A liberal (also leftist) is someone who rejects logical and biblical standards, often for self-centered reasons. There are no coherent liberal standards; often a liberal is merely someone who craves attention, and who uses many words to say nothing.[1] Liberalism began as a movement for individual liberties, but today is increasingly statist and, as in Europe, socialistic. Liberalism has changed over the years and degenerated into corruption.

reply to post by Kitilani

Why do TEA Party members have so many problems with numbers?
Just 32% of Tea Party candidates win

Most of what self proclaimed TEA Party members write on ATS makes them sound as if they believe they speak for some magical majority somewhere. Either that or they are just having trouble finding the words to admit they really just want everyone else to agree with the few of them that there are and that's that. No room for compromise with 32%

The TPM won roughly one third of their battles in their very first attempt, against long established entrenched political parties?

That is great news!! They can only get bigger and better as they continue to grow. I predict at least a 50% win percentage in 2012!

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
To the op,

Don't you mean The GOP has been hijacked by the TP? Eveidently they are bowing to the will of this racist group and whoever don't like what they say is instantly railroaded by them?

To the GOP people here,

Get your party back or else this will be the new mantra from here on out.

What has the TP done to make them racist?

Corporations, media, underground political sites, gold and oil interests, non-profits, banking interests have one of the most convoluted games of psy-op going imaginable. Paying bloggers and sending campaigners disguised as someone on a religious mission to canvas every neighborhood strictly to politically persuade is downright dirty.
Their tax exempt status should be revoked.

I'll change to Republican only if Dr. Ron Paul gets the nomination.

reply to post by Ancient Champion


Not everyone on ATS thinks the same. In case you haven't noticed, people here spend a lot of time arguing with each other.

My own belief is that elections and political parties are useless, and that the system needs to be dismantled (legally) and rebuilt according to a new constitution. I am actually in the minority on ATS about this, I believe.

I had high hopes for the Teaparty at first. I don't know how many of you recall, but when it first started up, at the very first, it was beyond left and right, and was joined by both Democrats and Republicans. How easily we forget! Soon an army of shills and Republican flunkies arrived on the scene and co-opted it for themselves.

Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

How many third party candidates won in 2010? The tea parties had plenty of opportunities to vote in third party and they decided to stick with the GOP.

How many Dems voted third party in 2008 or 2010? How many Dems are pushing to vote third party in 2012?

I wasn't under the impression that Democratic voters were part of the tea parties? We're talking about the tea parties here, not the dems. They made no secret about who they were going to support, neither were they waving the constitution infront of everybody's face.

By the way heres a little example of where the tea parties stand. In the 2010 senate elections alone, conservative leaning third party candidates got an average of 2% of the vote:
elections.nytimes.com...

Where did the all those tea party votes go? huh? Yep.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

The real Tea Party'ers were very anti Republican..

The question is Rockpuck, what fraction do the real tea parties make up out of the entire movement? Looking at the 2010 elections, they appear in the minority, verymuch the minority.

Read up, if you are new to ATS, we are currently experiencing paid blogger/political spam psy-op invasion.

Originally posted by watchitburn
Screw the tea party.

Vote for Ron Paul.

+1

I agree,The "Tea Party" was hijacked,right after the last elections.
Ron Pauls supporters are the originals. Period.

reply to post by Southern Guardian

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Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by Southern Guardian



How many third party candidates won in 2010? The tea parties had plenty of opportunities to vote in third party and they decided to stick with the GOP.



How many Dems voted third party in 2008 or 2010? How many Dems are pushing to vote third party in 2012?

I wasn't under the impression that Democratic voters were part of the tea parties? We're talking about the tea parties here, not the dems..

No, we were talking about 3rd party votes. Why didn't the Dems flock to their side?

They made no secret about who they were going to support, neither were they waving the constitution infront of everybody's face.

I don't get it. What does "waving the constitution infront of everybody's face" mean?

By the way heres a little example of where the tea parties stand. In the 2010 senate elections alone, conservative leaning third party candidates got an average of 2% of the vote:
elections.nytimes.com...

Where did the all those tea party votes go? huh? Yep.

The TPM doesn't have to automatically jump on the 3rd party bandwagon. How would that make sense? They vote for the candidate they think will do the best job. That makes sense.

Originally posted by mishigas
No, we were talking about 3rd party votes. Why didn't the Dems flock to their side?

The thread is about the tea party being hijacked and as evidence we referenced their overwhelming support for the GOP. That is the core of the thread. I'm unsure why you are attempting to point toward Democratic voters. Democratic voters vote for the Democratic party, they make no secret as to which party they support.

But I get it, you want to distract conversion away from the tea party, ok.

The TPM doesn't have to automatically jump on the 3rd party bandwagon. How would that make sense? They vote for the candidate they think will do the best job.

So they voted in more GOP shills who just continued to follow onto the republican path right? Mind you, there were exceptions like Rand Paul, but the majority of the GOP candidates voted in by tea partiers ended up no different. It will be the same case in 2012.

this reminds me of something I heard on the daily show. "in a dictatorship, you get one choice, in a democracy you get two choices"

the two party system really stinks. all they are saying is they won't take away votes from the GOP nominee, which otherwise would essentially guarantee obama re-election like the ross perot factor back in the day

So why isn't the Tea Party Express backing Ron Paul, and ONLY Ron Paul? Why would they even leave it open to suggestion that they would back whatever GOP candidate wins that parties nomination?

If Tea Partiers were serious about their movement, they would demand that Ron Paul be nominated by the GOP, or START THEIR OWN PARTY and "draft" Paul.

Otherwise this is all smoke and mirrors from Karl Rove and his cohorts at "Faux News", Roger Ailes et. al. They are desperate to trick TP'ers into thinking their GOP candidate (in other words a corporate shill) is a true "constitutionalist".

Originally posted by Ancient Champion

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
To the op,

Don't you mean The GOP has been hijacked by the TP? Eveidently they are bowing to the will of this racist group and whoever don't like what they say is instantly railroaded by them?

To the GOP people here,

Get your party back or else this will be the new mantra from here on out.

What has the TP done to make them racist?

When all of the racism mantra's were being spewed by them and attacking an African president not one person, faction told either their membership or the other factions to back off. Look at the draconian policies courtesy of Winsconsin, Michigan, Florida and you will see what I am referencing. Failure to stand up for every American regardless of skin colour and ethnicity. Only backing rich, white people.