Theory on NWO's plan, they WANT us to overthrow our government.

Hey fellow ATS'ers, I've been thinking about something lately amongst all this talk about Obama and his BC. A lot of Birthers and people who generally just don't like Obama want to get him out of office, and I would agree with them, but I continually hear people say, "They won't kick Obama out of office, he's the mouthpiece of TPTB, the NWO's tool, they need him."

Fair enough, people think he's immune to the possibility of getting kicked out of office, because he's a puppet that they're controlling. Sure, I believe this to be the case, too. But I've been thinking about something lately, and that's toying with the idea of this:

Maybe TPTB intentionally set things up so Obama IS kicked out of office? Doing a half-assed job on the BC for one was one of the first signs of this, but I've started looking at the bigger picture: Middle-East is going through revolutions left and right, and now that's it's moved to Spain there's talks of France and the Netherlands going next.. What if the key to all of this is for America to FINALLY say enough is enough? Get a good revolution going in our homeland and overthrow our government..

Because the way I see it, things must get REALLY bad first, before people are willing to step up and overthrow their government, and as far as I know, the NWO is something they said will NOT be forced on the people.. but something they demand.

Does this not make sense? It seems to be the way things are going right now, I mean, the economy is NOT in good shape, and THEY know it, even though they say it's fine.

I mean, think of it like this.. if this IS their plan, it's practically ingenious. We won't sit by while our country goes to hell for our own sake, so we'll almost be forced to overthrow the government and accept the New World Order.

Thoughts?

I have always believed that the only answer to end this must come from the US people. We must, with force, remove the pound of flesh, then the head from this powder keg of galactic terrorism known as The United Stated Government.

reply to post by Lionhearte


I've been thinking this too recently OP, that its one of their plans at least, all you have to do is think about all the problems there the government causes, making cuts in places that they know will outrage the public, allowing mass immigration, treating the immigrants better than some home citizens, The way i see it its all to get the public enraged & they will keep doing obviously wrong decisions to get the public more and more angry until, revolution.. All i know is i will never accept the NWO & i would rather see the world hit by a comet and the whole planet die, including all the NWO advocates and Illuminati, If i died knowing they were all dead, i would be happy.

reply to post by Lionhearte


It does seem these past (and current) administrations of DC have gone beyond bold and brazen to just shy of flipping the bird at the world from behind the podium. Each new leader seems duty-bound to out-do the previous talking head, plundering us deeper into debt while turning a permissive blind eye to wholesale corporate greed.

Many people, especially older folks that I speak to on the street, feel our country is headed to a civil war. They still recall better days when the economy was good, the illusion was still intact and the White House was less filled with outright traitors.

I think the folks in Washington DC have been so thoroughly exploited & corrupted that there is no stopping the chaos and destruction. They are playing the violin while Rome burns; few of them give a damn about what is right or good. Favors of all sorts and cash galore has poured in from around the globe. Our representatives have sold out, exchanging their power and persuasion for personal gain. Those hooked in to the secret societies and networked good ol boys are so drunk on power that they swagger about with the arrogance of a high-stakes gambler that is holding all aces.

Why else would our leaders perform as they do? It's obvious they do not give a damn about us or this country. Our 'rights' have eroded to the point where it seems like everything is becoming illegal, no matter how trivial or irrelevant. Look at the numbers of prisoners & prisons the USA has, the amount of death & destruction our military is sent to do around the world, how law enforcement escalates minor situations into tragic scenarios. Our government employs a list of hired muscle that would fill a page, and your sweat goes to pay for it all.

We escalated beyond retaliation long ago. We are living in the throes of madness. There are citizens that have been pushed to the edge and more join their ranks every day. Go check out how many homes are in foreclosure in the country where you live and the counties around yours. Compare the unemployment rates we are told against how many people you know that are out of work. I think it is incredible that the masses have tolerated as much as they have for as long as they have. How long can the steam build up before the lid blows clear off the pot?

Hmmm... There's one part missing. Why is it that we have to accept the NWO just because we overthrow our government? Unless they have groomed the person who will play the part of the revolutionary leader. I think this blatant bird flipping is intended to cause a small group of people to commit a terrorist act in order to further restrict our freedoms... Or then of course if noone steps up within their timetable, there's always the option of a false flag performed by a mind control victim who will conveniently have tons of internet postings ranting about the godforsaken birth certificate.. which will link him to us here at ats, whether you are pro or anti or neutral-Obama. He will probably actually be a member here...

I have some thoughts on this:

First off, I think that talking about forcefully taking over the goverment is a bad idea period, and I think that even goes for this site because it's just not tolerated (and yes it's a shame).

Secondly, given the propoganda that Americans are fed on a daily basis, it would be impossible to get enough support to do anything. Most of the people are too lazy, or don't care one way or the other as long as the cable does not get shut off and the internet (censored as it is) is up and running.

And lastly, if it is the plan of the U.S. goverment to set it's own people on a revolution, then my second point would make this a terrible plan. What is happening now is simple desensitzation to the world around us and it is working just fine...most people are numb to almost everything....nothing comes as a suprise anymore.

Yes it is sad, and dang I wish I could do something about it, but throwing my hands up and ranting seems to be the only way to express my disgust....but like in my first point, have to be careful even doing that.

reply to post by Lionhearte

There is a solution to this problem--Silent revolution.
1.Organization of the people out of the public eye.
2. Selection of candidates for offices that are well spoken, smart and sympathetic to the cause.
3. Grooming of said candidates to preach the usual campaign promises to the masses while agreeing with the NWO animals behind the scenes making them believe they are the perfect candidates to push through their agenda.
4. Once elected, these elected officials ignore NWO directives and take back our country!
This is the only way to beat them at their own game.

The "machine" of our government is (imo) completely broken. Our system promotes corruption, and cronyism. Our leaders DO NOT have our best interest at heart simply because it is not encouraged. We "elect" the popular guy. It's a popularity contest. Who ever can come off the "best" to the public, whoever says the things the voters want to hear get elected. We essentially created a system in which only sociopathic narcissist can rise to the top. Do you NEED to be told what to do to survive? If there were no "laws" on rape, would you run to your neighbors house and rape them? If the government didn't tell you not to steal, would you go to your neighbor's house, punch 'em in the face, then steal their TV?

Is a government more moral then a society? Do they "know better" then you? Does some rich, former businessman in a suit sitting in a half million dollar office have a higher moral authority on your life then you? Do you need an authority to tell you how you should live your life, do business, what your morals are? Does any man really have total dominion over any other?

I've been contemplating making a website "Putin for US President".

I think he could do a better job. He's against the New World Order.

If you read our nations history during our last Civil War it was RUSSIA who supported the North and is why the North Won....and led to the Globalists getting power.


Russia should have supported the South in our last Civil War. If there is another Civil War I hope Russia picks the right side this time.

Here we are with Commie's in the White House and wishing we were under Russia's rule instead. Anyone see the irony in that?

Originally posted by ZackMorris
Hmmm... There's one part missing. Why is it that we have to accept the NWO just because we overthrow our government? Unless they have groomed the person who will play the part of the revolutionary leader. I think this blatant bird flipping is intended to cause a small group of people to commit a terrorist act in order to further restrict our freedoms... Or then of course if noone steps up within their timetable, there's always the option of a false flag performed by a mind control victim who will conveniently have tons of internet postings ranting about the godforsaken birth certificate.. which will link him to us here at ats, whether you are pro or anti or neutral-Obama. He will probably actually be a member here...

ZackMorris you write words that have the stink of intelligence and observation all over them. I have to agree that an uprise would give TPTB one of the scenarios they are working towards. It would be a convenient excuse for the man behind the curtain to impose martial law and toss what few and little so-called 'rights' USA citizens have right out the window. Think we have it silly now, it would probably be unbearable after.

This make many posts I've read about non-violent protest very valid. Sadly, we see how peaceful protesters get treated by uniformed armed thugs, but this is the price one pays to play in the game.

I think American citizens should take their vacations in Washington DC. As many as possible, two or three weeks at a time, month after month, this year next year etcetera. I think millions of overweight citizens wearing tacky Hawaiian shirts on holiday in DC would get noticed. Who knows, maybe one or two might even actually get to see a senator or congress person in the flesh.

The biggest obstacle to a total world corpotacracy similar to European Feudalism is Western 'democratic' governments. For all their flaws, and ties with those very same corporate powers, they are still the only defense 'the people' have against the rich and powerful.

the denigration of 'government' a a tool of the people for equality is a product of corporatisms goals. They would LOVE to see western governments destabilized just like they like to see middle-eastern government's destabilized; because during times of unrest enormous profits are possible.

Also, it is a myth that there is any cohesion among the 'elites' for what a 'new world order would look like. Just like us, they fight amongst themselves for power.

Originally posted by ZackMorris
Hmmm... There's one part missing. Why is it that we have to accept the NWO just because we overthrow our government?

Because a vacuum never last long in politics, and when you remove one big player, the next takes it's place.

the fantasy that an armed group of patriot rebels would form a cohesive, functioning government in the shadow of opposing corporate/military forces is naive at best. especially when one realizes the problem is not with the government, but those who inhabit it.

Originally posted by LargeFries

I think American citizens should take their vacations in Washington DC. As many as possible, two or three weeks at a time, month after month, this year next year etcetera. I think millions of overweight citizens wearing tacky Hawaiian shirts on holiday in DC would get noticed. Who knows, maybe one or two might even actually get to see a senator or congress person in the flesh.

LMAO!!! I had a horrible mental pic.


The problem with these wonderful protests is that we are ALLOWED to protest. We are given a little way to work out our angst in a nice controlled manner and get over it by pretending we made someone notice. The ONLY time you're truly noticed is when you do things you are not ALLOWED to do by those you are protesting. KWIM?



Anyway, have you ever been to DC?? The only thing that will happen to peaceful protesters wearing Hawaiian shirts in DC will be that theyre mugged and carjacked.. while govt types watch from their office windows and giggle. DC is a cesspool.. governmentally and a large portion of the citizenry.. I pity the poor normal folks who live there. The husband I were in DC on business.. and whoa. I thought Chicago was bad...

I don't really see how the populace could overthrow TPTB. They have all the technology and weaponry. Even if everyone in the US was armed with machine guns, what good would that do against missiles, biological weapons, and god knows what other technology these people have? Not to mention it would be nearly impossible to coordinate the populace, whereas TPTB are far more coordinated in their efforts. IMO it's too late, these people have already won, it's just a matter of time before their NWO is fully in place.

Well, isn't that how the Taliban seized power in Afghanistan? The people at first welcomed them because they signified the start a new era - one without communism. Same deal with Hitler, people initially welcomed him because he was their key to getting out of a stagnant Germany with no economy or military power. If you let things get bad enough, and if someone were to then sweep in from out of the blue offering salvation for society, it's a lot more likely to be more effective. Sounds like what's happening in the Middle East, things have gotten quite bad so now the U.S. is seen a force for salvation. People are selling their freedom for an illusion of security and safety.

It's a commonly used, yet very effective, strategic tactic for gaining power through what is akin to a subtle bribery.

reply to post by Syyth007


'government' is nothing more than the institutions of order by man. it is not good or bad. it just is. any society necessitates some form of government, by definition.

Yes you see it now.
In England we have a big shake up with the health service.
Funny it is Verry simlar to what happend in America.
they are playing games with us.
the are pushing us all over the edge.

reply to post by Lionhearte


Your right, the mafias want us to remove the government. Then it will emerge from the chaos.