Non-birthers and Obama fanatics about to look stupid.

The all mighty messiah/leader is about to be exposed. My prediction is that us non-birthers will win the fight against Obama and his fraudulent presidency. I believe Donald is about to get the biggest bump from being the one man with the balls to expose this. You can say what you want against our birther beliefs, the evidence is out there now and the world is going to come down on his head, the heads of liberal progressives, the heads of democrats, the list goes on. If you are not deluded now, you can see it all shaping up to be a landslide victory to Donald in 2012.

Things that mean alot.

$120 million dollars for two years for Celebrity Apprentice. Money is no object to Trump this is a cover.

He his sitting back right now and watching the republicans destroy themselves.

Gingrich equals fail, Romney look so disconnected it's not going to happen for him. Bachmann, Pawlenty and the rest don't have a hope and you all now it. Palin pffft...

Donald has mentioned this on his Fox and friends weekly address. That he sees no good candidate and that the only candidate he would back was Huckabee and he was surprised Huckabee wasn't running.

A Trump/Huckabee 2012 train would be unstoppable. Hence Huckabees stance right now.

Trump may run independent and the Huckabee accepts VP position.

Trump himself in the same Fox and Friends address said that if things didn't improve and he seen no good candidate that he hasn't ruled out running for President, this is after he pulled out.

When Trump was first thinking about running he complicity stated he couldn't officially announce his nomination until after the Apprentice finished as it is against the law and rules.

So he had to come out and announce he wasn't running.

I predict Donald to use the birther bump when exposed and it all playing out.

I don't care what anyone says these are my beliefs.

I will say if Gingrich gets the republican nomination or the presidency then the same powers that puppet Obama will puppet Gingrich. The same group that has had control over all the presidents since JFK.

Just look and research Donalds beliefs with what he has said about running the country and the things that need to be done. He is dead on going to blitz.

He is smart, safe, a family man, morally ethical and financially a genius.

So I'm just putting this out there. I can't wait to see all the non-birthers suddenly pretend they were a birther all along just to save their reputation. there is alot of you, get ready.

Nothing is going to come down on Obama without the consent of the oligarchs. Obama is not part of the beast, he is just a mouthpiece.

That being said, Trump is not running for president, and the only way he would win, is if he decided to play ball with the real power structure in this country.

There are no presidents, only puppets created to serve the interests of the power structure.



Oh and I'm a long time birth skeptic, but that doesn't mean I'm a sucker for the whole illusion of the presidency.

But Trump stated he is not running.... or did I miss something?

Personally, I am not a birther. Have I spent countless hours of research to come to this conclusion? No. To me Obama is very much american, born here or not. But I do understand why it matters.

However, that being said. Here's what I think. I think that the birther argument has been shot down so many times, with so many debunked accusations, that IF there finally was damning evidence, it still would be swept under the rug. The only way I see it being possible for the birther argument to gain any ground is by confession by someone very close to Obama who has had a hand in it, or Obama himself, which I don't see happening.

As for Trump, He is smart, but not without failure. As so many cleverly point out he's a man that let a casino go bankrupt lol, though I'm sure there's more to it than that. Dunno if I would vote for Trump, I know I'm not a fan of Huckabee, so that ticket isn't attractive for me. However I've always thought that a good president would be a smart businessman.

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I don't care what anyone says these are my beliefs.

This says a lot about your approach to ideologies.

What I'm saying is; You wouldn't care if Obama is American, that's not your belief. You wouldn't care if his birth certificate is real, that's not your belief.

I bet you didn't get this worked up with Bush or any prior presidents, demanding birth certificates and all. Because, that's not your belief. This guy looks different, so he can't be your leader. It can't be, you believe something else, nothing else matters.

Question:

How did you get this revelation? A dream? A vision?

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Very funny Trumpy, now delete your account and stop trolling ATS.

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Didn't Trump just bow out of the 2012 race?

If so, the only people looking stupid are the birthers.

Originally posted by MasterAndrew

A Trump/Huckabee 2012 train would be unstoppable.

Now that's some funny stuff right there! Trump or no Trump, the GOP has nothing but a circus side show of freaks, and they know it. That's why they will concetrate on gaining seats in Congress. They don't have an electable candidate and time is running short.

If the GOP wanted a "birther bump" they should have only started talking about it in November 2011, and let it gain some steam during the campaign season.

That's the first sign that something is horribly wrong in the Republican party - when they start screwing up their politically underhanded tactics, woo, you know they're in for a ride.

However, there's an alternate possibility; the GOP didn't start the birther crap to attack Obama's poll numbers - They created it to cover their own weakness. The fact is, McCain / Palin was the best ticket they could field in 2008... and things haven't improved from that point. The fact is, the current crop of Republicans haven't got anything to offer their own constituencies. In fact current republican policies are clearly just as harmful - in some cases MORE harmful - towards the Republican votes, as to everyone else.

So what does a weak political party that has nothing but rotten, un-nailed planks in its plat form?

BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID, DON'T TRUST THAT NEW NI**ER OVER THERE! HE'S A KENYAN MUSLIM SOCIALIST MARXIST TERRORIST JIGGABOO WHO AIN'T LIKE YOU! BE AFRAID, REPUBLICAN VOTERS!!!

That is, the Republican party is playing on its own constituency's tendency towards racism and xenophobia in an effort to distract said constituents from the plain fact that the Republican party has absolutely nothing of value to offer them. The hope is that even if the small portion of the GOP base that falls for it doesn't get energized to go to the polls ('cause, well, I imagine the typical birther is about as likely to actually vote as your average rhesus monkey or hippy) then at least maybe the effort will slow the visible hemorrhaging of voters from the party.

Huckabee is a religious bigot and doesn't believe in evolution.

I don't care how appealing Trump could be, if Huckabee is on the ticket they lose my vote.

Originally posted by Lighterside
As for Trump, He is smart, but not without failure. As so many cleverly point out he's a man that let a casino go bankrupt lol,

...Is that true? What kind of dumb mf'er manages to bankeupt a casino? I mean... c'mon! Even if your "casino" is just a gas station with a single slot machine out on some stretch of route 66 desert, that's STILL pure profit. How... Just...

Man, that must have taken deliberate effort. So... I'm gonna flip this around. Seriously, I'm going to stand up for Trump here - the man must be a genius to have figured out how to bankrupt a casino. Granted, not all strains of genius are USEFUL, but, c'mon, that's like the Steven Hawking of bad business sense.

i find pawlenty/huckabee to be a very strong gop ticket. but they won't get the nod, and that is why obama will win a second term.

The fable of the Boy who cried wolf has much meaning in this situation. When you try to "promote" your BELIEFS with lies and deception, IF any "concrete" evidence surfaced that Obama wasn't eligible to be POTUS, it would probably be overlooked, simply because the only ones that will be paying attention to the "birthers" are "birthers" themselves.. I've heard plenty of yelling, feet-stamping, and patting themselves on the back, but I have YET to see one piece of conclusive evidence pointing toward the birther theory being true. All I hear are the same talking points taken from BLOGS, usually one run by Orly Taitz, or John Corsi, both of whom have ZERO credibility, and have been proven to promote lies in order to promote their agenda.

You can see the "wack-a-mole" game being played by the same "birther" posters here on ATS, the same people, posting the same fraudulent statements, it get's pointed out they are posting fraudulent information, they ignore all facts and post the same WRONG information on other threads, ad nauseum.

Birthers are JUST like "creationists" and ANY fundamentalist. They don't care about things like "facts" or "evidence", and no amount of evidence will change their outlook. They start at a conclusion, and then look for "evidence" to support that conclusion. If they can't find any, they will make things up, or take things out of context in order to obscure the issue at hand to further their own agenda, it is completely intellectually dishonest.

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foolish one
any conspiracy theorist worth his/her salt knows that TCOTBIP do not allow
just anybody to become potus unless he/she proves that he/she is a cold blooded murderer.
[demonstration required]

is Marquis Moneybaggs even rumored to have murdered anybody?


if a comet fails to strike,

King Oreo will rig the elections

just like Prince Shrub before him

and don't forget who the real 1st lady is currently

that's right "Robber" Baron Prick's consort

and we all know that everybody who messed with or were a threat
to those Pricks got shafted/ [had a convenient accident]

should Marquis Moneybaggs even look like a threatm
the Baroness will have Marquis Moneybaggs thrown under his own tour bus

Omen style.

Hghhmmm hghmmmm. It's all starting to pan out. Go Trump! Actually LISTEN to what he says! no one would be a better president right now than him and you all know it.

At this point I dont think the birthers need to worry about that anymore.

Obama is a mess, and absolute MESS.

He has run the country into the ground. Made us a laughing stock among the european countries that were sooooo in love with him at first.

His stance on Isreal, and world policy is NON existence. He HAS to go, and we can only pray that he hasn't ruined us already.

Insiders on his staff are appalled at his attitude, he is flippant, doesn't give a crap when he is being debriefed, and has even walked out of meetins over our ground troops.

He immediately took out the statue of Winston Churchill...among other White House mainstays. He cannot be bothered to be briefed on etiquette in England or even in his own damn Rose Garden with the German president.

He is, simpy put, an ignoramous who got into the whitehouse because the bright eyed gullible outcasts and those wanting world peace voted him in. I wont say anything about all hte black people who stated they voted for him simply because he was black. In one interview a young african american woman was interviewed as she got into her car, and said that now that a black man was in the White House, she would get a lot more free. Also, who was it that sang the song, "WE'RE GONNA PAINT THE WHITE HOUSE BLACK"...was that JayZ?

Imagine if white people had done that. Don't go screaming I am racist, what I am is someone who can see the BS that is pervasive in politics and I am willing to call a spade a spade.

Non-birthers and Obama fanatics about to look stupid

Obama fanatics are not 'about' to look stupid. They have for years.
One look at MSNBC says it all. Poor Mica ..
The Obama shill network and their ratings says it all.