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Originally posted by Student X
I've had mystical experiences that span several categories. Allow me to summarize. I've had many psychic experiences of different kinds, encountered many spiritual entities, seen UFOs up close. I've traveled outside my body, I've transcended my ego-self to become God, I've made love to the Goddess and carried her to earth, I've fallen into the infinite void under a sacred mountain. This weekend I am undergoing a spirit walk peyote sacrament.
Originally posted by egregore
Originally posted by AuranVector
I am very curious, Egregore/Ben, can you describe to me how you play with your subconscious color imagination?
Do you have to close your eyes to see the field?
Do you ever see a door? Can you tell me what shape it is?
What do you see when you enter your subconscious color imagination?
Is it a replica of this world?
i CERTAINLY MUST close my eyes. even the slightest bit of visual stimulus cancels out the inner vision. this vision is definitely affected by experiences and emotions felt within the 3D reality during the day, and/or state of conciousness (eg. anxious, stressed, happy, LOVE, etc).
in order to take myself to the bliss-state, i must completely detach myself from the 3D experience. i learned in college (from a wacky, new age professor in the mid-1990's) to breath in through the nose with the eyes closed, focus the inner thought/vision on the air entering/exiting the nostrils (mostly the intake though, and with RELAXED, deep breaths), and only focus on the breathing. if you can imagine (with eyes closed) bringing your eyes/inner vision (inside your head) to the area where the nasal cavity connects with the throat and then create a "vortex". with enough practice, i can now acheive a feeling of the 4D (tumbling within, and growing out of). this profoundly helps "cleaning the slate" of the mind...
have a look at this video: the 4d cube apologies. i am still fairly new to this forum and cannot figure out how to post vids or pics in threads...
my 4D experience is more spherical, but not entirely... like a smoke-filled clear globe creating something like the earth's energy field...
eg:
side note: this is extremely tough to explain and i thank you for inviting me to attempt to explain this, for i have NEVER thought to put it into words... TALK ABOUT A CHALLENGE?!?!?!
the bliss-state can be acheived in almost any bodily position, but i find it best to be sitting upright or laying down flat on my back. in both positions, i either interlock my fingers or touch my finger tips, having the hands centered on the chest (if touching fingertips, the thumbs touch the lower-center of my sternum). it took me years to realize that "centeredness" is an essential facet of control. please keep in mind that this was done with not much outside influence or guidance.
so, now i am completely relaxed, breathing deeply and evenly, with eyes closed... for me, it helps to be in the dark, but the color imagination can be accessed ANYWHERE and outside of the bliss-state as well. it just takes practice! i imagine that it may be different for all entities while we are in subjective/disconnected 3D... im simply trying to describe MY experience.
anyway, so with the eyes closed i can see a haze of light in the background of my inner vision/color imagination. with an aloof "focus", i can draw this light to the foreground of the blank slate. for years, i would focus on changing the color of the light blob. now, i can change colors in seconds. this is very hard to describe! but imagine a light "blob", translucent in nature. a piece of silly-putty made out of cotton as viewed through an unfocused camera lense. similar to smoke, but hazy and able to change color.
i need a break from this, so ill post what i have so far and come back and describe more later... you can private message me so i dont ruin this guys thread if you are still interested.
i have only described from my montessori/preschool days to about the 10 year mark. it gets more interesting as we can conjure up almost ANYTHING. it took me over a decade to be able to materialize "hard" lines. again, i did this with minimal outside influence, and one could probably get to where i am in a matter of days, minutes, even seconds...
in the past decade, i have been able to access a spirit realm that oftentimes frightens me, but can also be awe-inspiring space travel.
this is similar to the little guy that i ran into a couple of months ago:
ive tried to hang around and interact, but my skin starts to crawl and i open my eyes every time (instant shut off)...
um yeah. apologies for any confusion or rambling. this is VERY tough to explain!
oh, and no doors. there is no shape, unless you desire it. and it is NOT a replica of this world in the least bit... that could be just MY experience though... i believe that soon the "me, my, and i" will be "we, our, and us"... science aint got # on whats to come!!!
Originally posted by Student X
This weekend I am undergoing a spirit walk peyote sacrament
Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
The thing is, I was technically unconscious yet I saw myself in this "plastic tent" of sorts, and I saw my father by the bed wallowing in rage that I might die.
Originally posted by sailormon
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This thread has been ongoing for a few days, with great wisdom in the responses. I put this in here just to share not to hijack. I will come back later and add as I said in the other thread, I will respond further when the topic comes up and it has, thank you. May be a few days, heading on a road trip for now.
Originally posted by sailormon
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This thread has been ongoing for a few days, with great wisdom in the responses. I put this in here just to share not to hijack. I will come back later and add as I said in the other thread, I will respond further when the topic comes up and it has, thank you. May be a few days, heading on a road trip for now.
The only way of escape is through emotional disconnection to this 3 dimensional illusory joke. Everything within this 3D realm has an aspect of such incredible lunacy and insanity, and still, the people look to the leaders, the elite, the power-brokers for salvation and relief. When in reality, all of these elite movers and shakers, and the many not so elite conspiracy truthers, who are attempting to cause the masses to rise up like a lion to replace the head haunchos with yet another set of elitists, are the ones perpetuating the emotional connection to the 3D illusory experience. Escape is only accomplished by realizing that there is no path to follow to achieve oneness and the paradise state. For a path suggests distance, which is space, which is time, and Time and Space do not exist. Therefore, those who attempt to initiate a revolution of violence or non-violence, are leading the masses into a gas chamber of horrific proportions, even as they’re cheered for setting them free from the illusory bonds of corruption and deceit, only to be bound with a new fresh set of fetters, even stronger than the first. The only way of escape is through the mind, and the total emotional disconnect from believing that any of this hellish 3D experience has any validity or worth.
Originally posted by Arkady
Originally posted by Student X
This weekend I am undergoing a spirit walk peyote sacrament
I'm looking at a blue, hard grown, multi headed beauty right now as I type this that i've been growing for years. I'm saving it for my midlife crisis incase I need a different perspective.