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No Authentic Jew Will Recognize the State of Israel

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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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I'm shocking at starting threads but I do alot of research and I'm quite happy to help out when asked for information via private msg.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Even with your unintelligent rudeness, i thank you for your time and contribution to this topic. Yes i understand what is being said and i will look into it further.

after briefly reading some of the information i will again say this

JEWS AND ZIONIST ARE NOT THE SAME>

They use the 2 words interchangeably which is the root of the problem. So tell me this Sir or madam

do you defend the Zionist and what they are doing?

Even if the protocols are a forgery it seems like whoever wrote it was somewhat knowledgeable. Have you ever read it?

A lot of what is said in there has happened and regardless if it was written by a zionist a nazi an ape-it is very perculiar.

I defend ALL authentic Jews, with my life if need be. But whoever is behind this Zionist agenda is pure evil wheter they be Jew, non jew , black white yellow purple or extraterrestrial.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Read up on the links I provided. Among other things, The Protocols were created in order to drum up hate for Jews. The document is not only a forgery, but a downright fraud. This fact is so easy to see that I have to question the age of people who seriously believe that it's words to ring true.



Why do you think most jews live outside the state of israel? Find me another group of people who live outside of their supposed own country.


I'll bite: if you are an American, chances are (unless you are Native American) you live outside of your "supposed own country"--whatever the hell that means.

The United States is a nation of immigrants. There's my answer.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Let me answer your question by asking you one:

What is your definition of a Zionist? Chances are, your definition comes directly from the pages of The Protocols. Why is this? Because most who believe in the Zionist conspiracy derive most of their conspiratorial nonsense from that book.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Go to Google Images and type in "Beach Party in Tel Aviv".

The pictures that will come up are pictures of a bunch of Zionists. Authentic Zionists. These Zionists are also Jews. Look at them partying. Do you really think these are evil people?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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If you read it, which i highly doubt- it says that the Jewish people themselves are unaware of the zionist agenda

Calling the the Zionist the head of the snake being protected by the body-the Jewish ppl. and it works impeccably.

Any one who attacks the Zionist is quickly labeled a fool and an anti Semite. Thats why the Jews ( and all like them) at the end of this video will do the most damge to their cause



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by ElliotNoir
the zionist agenda



What agenda do you think the Zionists having the beach party in Tel Aviv have?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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EVERY nation worldwide is a nation of immigrants at some point in it's history no matter how far back you wish to go.

BUT......the MOST multicultural nation anywhere on the planet is ISRAEL !!! No where, anywhere, will you find another nation that is so rich in culture.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Smart is relative to apply a term to someone such as yourself; yet to even use it in a term you have used it is absurd.

Clearly freedom should be allowed people can read the book and come to their own discernment of how to take it into their own Context.

Why Vehemently attack the OP.

Are you a paid Zionists Dis-info Agent. Surprised you got so many stars for such a contrived posts Denouncing something you seem to have so much angst for!



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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Bc evil ( the word evil is very opinion-based) ppl never celebrate and have a good time.

"Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism; the latter term has been corrupted to where today its use is as a powerful word weapon smear tactic to prevent Americans from discussing, realizing, and reacting to the horrific danger that Zionism presents to not only our nation, but also to the peace, safety and freedom of the entire world. And that threat can be summarized as the Zionist’s "global agenda."

www.cephas-library.com...

A Definition of Zionism

Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims. Jews of all persuasions, left and right, religious and secular, joined to form the Zionist movement and worked together toward these goals. Disagreements led to rifts, but ultimately, the common goal of a Jewish state in its ancient homeland was attained. The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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One of the pictures I found typing "Tel Aviv Beach Party" into Google Images:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5df4cf0d0f82.jpg[/atsimg]

These are Zionists.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Do these people look evil to you?

The African Jews migrate:

youtu.be...

The Chinese Jews migrate:

youtu.be...

The Idan Raich Project:

youtu.be...



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Sky i have the utmost respect for you, but what does your picture prove.? Yes they are human beings
Yes they congregate...
They smile and have a good time.

Most of those ppl there probably have nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

Stop the Palestinian slaughter. Stop the globalists agenda. Stop the racism.



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by ElliotNoir
Most of those ppl there probably have nothing to do with what I'm talking about.


So who are you talking about?



Stop the Palestinian slaughter. Stop the globalists agenda. Stop the racism.





posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Lmao watch the video in its entirety please, im leaving....-sigh-



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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I am mostly referring to politicians and ppl of power, not mom n pop and joe schmoe



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by ElliotNoir

watch the video in its entirety please, im leaving....-sigh-


Ive watched many dozens of videos like this on ATS. Ive seen hundreds of threads starting with "I am not against Jews, just against Zionists".

They all follow the same pattern of repackaging old anti-semitic theories as "new" anti-zionist theories.

But it remains vague who these "Zionists" actually are.
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posted on May, 19 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by ElliotNoir
I am mostly referring to politicians and ppl of power, not mom n pop and joe schmoe


Which people in power? Do you know the names of any Israeli politicians without looking it up on Google?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Now if they were easily identifiable, it wouldnt be a conspiracy now would it


no but seriously

This is not my field of expertise but i know wrong when i see it. Argue w me if u must. I dont know names off the top of my head but the guy in the video is definitely an asshole. for saying what he said about the arab ppl just coming down from the trees, how can they be civilized? and 2 legged animals yada yada

good thing i have my handy dandy laptop and my precious internet


Zionists and Israeli politicians

* Chaim Arlosoroff, Zionist activist, leader of Mapai
* Daniel Auster, first Hebrew mayor of Jerusalem
* Ber Borochov, Zionist activist
* Levi Eshkol, prime minister of Israel
* Ahad Ha'am, Zionist activist
* Abba Hushi, mayor of Haifa
* Volodymyr Jabotynsky, Zionist leader, founder of Revisionist Zionism, writer and journalist in Hebrew and Russian language
* Ephraim Katzir, Israeli biophysicist, president of Israel
* Abraham Kaufman, leader of Jewish community in China
* Golda Meir, prime minister of Israel
* Leo Motzkin, Zionist activist
* Leon Pinsker, Zionist activist, leader of the Hovevei Zion
* Natan Sharansky, Soviet human rights activist and Israeli politician
* Moshe Sharett, prime minister of Israel
* Shevah Weiss, Israeli lawman and Labor party politician, speaker of the Kneset
* Simon Wiesenthal, hunter of Nazis

There are good muslims and bad muslims just as there are good politicians and evil politicians

There are extremist and pacifist

but these are just words

who's right?

idk, lets just get ww3 over with and let God do the paperwork eh

(half joke)

It really seems that Israel has a genocidal plot against the arab world. Why do they hate them so? esp when they took everything from them and drove them out of their land. They got what they wanted, what else is it?



posted on May, 19 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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That list actually was from ppl from ukraine and i dnt know how old it is

I will make a thread soon about who the real enemy of man is. Their names are irrelevant if the system still lives

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edit on 19-5-2011 by ElliotNoir because: i can't spell



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