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Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by TreadUpon
That article was one of the purest forms of liberal bullcrap I have read in a long time. The person(s) that wrote it were sheeple wearing blinders..
Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by TreadUpon
That article was one of the purest forms of liberal bullcrap I have read in a long time. The person(s) that wrote it were sheeple wearing blinders..
This isn't liberal or bullcrap mishigas. American Thinker is a conservative site. A list of Randall Hoven's previous articles ( www.americanthinker.com... ) betrays no liberalism.
This is really, "just the way it is" and I think it's the reason there is such a thing as the "Tea Party" today. Neither of the 2 parties are committed to their oath of office. If anyone had been, we wouldn't be in this epic mess.
Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by TreadUpon
Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by TreadUpon
That article was one of the purest forms of liberal bullcrap I have read in a long time. The person(s) that wrote it were sheeple wearing blinders..
This isn't liberal or bullcrap mishigas. American Thinker is a conservative site. A list of Randall Hoven's previous articles ( www.americanthinker.com... ) betrays no liberalism.
The website may be conservative, but this article is pure liberal bullcrap. I could go through and debunk many of the bullets he makes.
The economy.
Taxes.
Spending.
The War On Terror.
Immigration.
Compared to other advanced economies.
Compared to Republicans.
The bailout of banks? Bush started that.
The bailout of auto companies? Bush started that.
Government take-over of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and 90% of the home mortgage business that went with them? Bush did that.
Ethanol subsidies? Pushed by many Republicans and expanded by Bush.
Outlawing light bulbs? Bush did that.
Mandating individual health insurance? Mitt Romney did that.
"Comprehensive" immigration reform? Both Bush and McCain pushed that.
No Child Left Behind? Ted Kennedy and George W. Bush pushed that, and Bush signed it into law.
# Do you want a vigorous attack against waterboarding? Just ask John McCain.
No, you couldnt "debunk" it, but you could spew partisan rhetoric that you learned from the teevee....
the thread title is ironic and has been proved within 10 posters. "Its not what I want to hear so that must be liberal bullcrap!"
None of this changes my mind about Obama. I think he is a doctrinaire Marxist. I think he is one of the stupidest people to hold that office. And for my money he is by far the most obnoxious (the I-me-my president) in my lifetime, and perhaps history.
Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by aching_knuckles
I could go ahead and prove you wrong, but Vitchilo, the responder right below your post, did a good job.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
The bailout of banks? Bush started that.
And Obama rallied the senators into voting for it. And he voted for it.
The bailout of auto companies? Bush started that.
And Obama voted for it and continued.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Taxes.
Taxes are indeed lower right now, but wait till Obamacare fully kicks in, or cap and trade, or private toll roads, or pay by the mile, or the dollar collapse, or the bond market say NO MORE DEFICIT SPENDING... your taxes are gonna skyrocket.
Proof? Oh, it actually hasnt happened yet, so you are basing your demonization of a person on SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER EVEN OCCUREED YET.....when in fact OBAMA ACTUALLY LOWERED YOUR TAXES. How about giving something a chance, instead of just attacking everyhting thats is different the moment you see it.
Originally posted by TreadUpon
reply to post by ren1999
And everything would be better with no government involvement...The less they control the better we'll all be.
Originally posted by ren1999
Do you think that workers would be better off if the government didn't step in between workers and executives?