Osama Bin Laden and the South African Nukes

Originally posted by Britguy
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Aaaah! Well if it's on wikileaks then it must be true and we are all doomed then.

Seriously, Al CIA-duh and Wikileaks are controlled disinfo operations. I tend to ignore them completely and take more notice of past events and who is behind them.

Was it Al Qaida that was behind supplying South Africa the means and materials to make the nukes?
Was it Al Qaida that was behind the smuggling of those weapons out of South Africa?
Was it Al Qaida that despatched our current Prime Minister to oversee the smuggling and cover up of those weapons?
Was it Al Qaida that killed Dr. David Kelly, probably to cover up all the dirty goings on and close a potential wildcard leak, that could have put some seriously high up players in jail, or at least prevented them ever coming into power?

See, Al Qaida is nothing more than the scapegoat, the created bogeyman outfit waved at us to scare us all into falling into line and doing as we are told to finance the wars. The real people behind all this are the very ones we now see in power and, as such, I see them as a greater threat to my safety than some turbaned man making scary speeches and videos from a cave in crappystan!

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The files on wikileaks were the dossiers from the US interrogation teams at Guantanmo Bay.

No, the bombs were designed by Israel and sold to South Africa and built in SA by Israeli and SA scientists.

No, the nukes were removed from SA in 1991 as part of SA's decommissioning of its nuclear weapons and sent to Oman prior to being stolen ( did you bother to read the articles - if not - do so ).

No, Cameron was sent with Kelly by the British government to facilitate the removal of the weapons by the SA government.

Who knows who killed Kelly ? I dont. Nor am I claiming too - but if I had to choose a likely candidate for a hit squad operating in the UK and elsewhere in the world with a history of assassinations - MOSSAD. This would cover up the Israel and South Africa link as Israel supplied the bomb to SA. Dr. Kelly would have proof that Israel supplied South Africa with their nuclear weapons, hence he knew too much.

I agree - I suspect that the main threat to our democracy and nations comes as much from the CIA and US military Induistrial Block as it does from the CIA and US sponsored Islamist terrorists like Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.

Well, at least now we have the video of his burial at sea:



Interesting info provided in the OP, as well. Very interesting, though I smell a set-up.

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So, job done then!

The seeds of the Al Qaida nuke story have been sown, and now taken down to whip up conspiracy discussion even further. After all, if it wasn't true, they wouldn't bother removing the documents.... right? They are removing the documents to try and cover up the Al Qaida bomb stoey so as not to alarm us all.

People are getting played here.

The Libi file appears to be back up on wikileaks - click the link here and go to page 9 and read the last [aragraph on the page that mentions the nuclear bomb AL Qaeda have ;

wikileaks.ch...

Originally posted by Britguy
reply to post by leejohnbarnes

 

So, job done then!

The seeds of the Al Qaida nuke story have been sown, and now taken down to whip up conspiracy discussion even further. After all, if it wasn't true, they wouldn't bother removing the documents.... right? They are removing the documents to try and cover up the Al Qaida bomb stoey so as not to alarm us all.

People are getting played here.

Now the files are back online - which could suggest that in order to ensure this story remains a conspiracy theory that the files have to be accesible via this site to ensure only conspiracy theory types access and read this story, and that they have realised that by removing the files from the wikileaks they really do have something to hide - we could all be being played here.

Originally posted by VariableConstant
Well, at least now we have the video of his burial at sea:

Interesting info provided in the OP, as well. Very interesting, though I smell a set-up.

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Ha ha - its almost as real as the real thing !

Read page 9 of the intelligence report here - the final paragraph mentions the nuclear bomb ;

wikileaks.ch...

Then go to page 14 and read the Placement and Access statement and Intelligence Assessment on Libi.



Not only did the US interrogation team state that Libi was a top ranked Al Qaeda terrorist with inside information at the senior level of Al Qaeda, they ranked his intelligence report as believable due to his inside knowledge of Al Qaeda.

The US interrogators believe he is telluing the truth about the fact that Al Qaeda have a nuclear weapon.

That is what matters - they belive him and what he says.

Now THAT is a conspiracy theory.
Well done.

Originally posted by myster0
Now THAT is a conspiracy theory.
Well done.

Thanks.

I truly, deeply and sincerely hope you are right, and that I am wrong and that this is all just a conspiracy theory.

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I didn't say anything about the validity of your claims, just that it fits the criteria.

Originally posted by myster0
reply to post by leejohnbarnes

 

I didn't say anything about the validity of your claims, just that it fits the criteria.

Gotcha.

You are 100 % right, it sure is a classic conspiracy theory.

Unfortunately it could also be true.

All I can say is..... watch this space.

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The Kelly death question has never been answered and the facts are locked away: for 70 years by British establishment


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Originally posted by p00hbear
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The Kelly death question has never been answered and the facts are locked away: for 70 years by British establishment


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

edit on 16-5-2011 by p00hbear because: edit

Crikey.

Its almost like they have something really terrible to hide isnt it.

Originally posted by ATSecretAgent
All I can say is..... watch this space.

Exactly.

Saudi Arabia financed the Pakistani Nuclear bomb program in exchange for a few of their own.

Nobody in Saudi Arabia likes America or Israel. Saudi decided to build them when they figured out down the road we were going to use Diego Garcia to secure our supply of oil......steal if from them when our currency became watered down. Remember their "we're starting the Gulf Monetary Union and not accepting US dollars for oil anymore" rhetoric from just prior to Obama being placed into power?

Osama Bin Laden's goal #1 was to get the US military out of Saudi Arabia, goal achieved.

Israel will obliterate Saudi Arabia if the Royal Family loses control there soon. They know the people of Saudi Arabia would launch them at Israel. So they are being bought off, Saudi Arabia is being promised a greater portion of the world and their debt was paid off by us.

Osama Bin Laden and the Bin Laden Family single handedly kept Saudi Arabia a Soveriegn country.

You got to sit back and really appreciate the scope of what he accomplished. Where are Saudi's nukes?

Likely hidden around the world.

You ever get the feeling that creeps down the back of your neck like The SHTF?! After reading this thread, I do.

If you want the full #ty cover-up, including the the Brits and US and Israel all shacked up in bed together read Gordon Duffs article, it covers most of the issues and will point any research in the right direction, though I think most of the documents we want have been shredded long ago

www.veteranstoday.com...

p00hbear

Originally posted by Pervius
Saudi Arabia financed the Pakistani Nuclear bomb program in exchange for a few of their own.

Nobody in Saudi Arabia likes America or Israel. Saudi decided to build them when they figured out down the road we were going to use Diego Garcia to secure our supply of oil......steal if from them when our currency became watered down. Remember their "we're starting the Gulf Monetary Union and not accepting US dollars for oil anymore" rhetoric from just prior to Obama being placed into power?

Osama Bin Laden's goal #1 was to get the US military out of Saudi Arabia, goal achieved.

Israel will obliterate Saudi Arabia if the Royal Family loses control there soon. They know the people of Saudi Arabia would launch them at Israel. So they are being bought off, Saudi Arabia is being promised a greater portion of the world and their debt was paid off by us.

Osama Bin Laden and the Bin Laden Family single handedly kept Saudi Arabia a Soveriegn country.

You got to sit back and really appreciate the scope of what he accomplished. Where are Saudi's nukes?

Likely hidden around the world.

Saudi Arabia doesnt need nukes.

It has Israel and the US nukes defending it.

Saudi Arabia, Israel and the US are all allies against Iran.

Hence the Saudi regime is untouchable - and Blackwater have just built a 800 strong mercenary army to attack Saudi citizens if they dared rise up against the monarchy in Saudi Arabia.

www.nytimes.com...

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — Late one night last November, a plane carrying dozens of Colombian men touched down in this glittering seaside capital. Whisked through customs by an Emirati intelligence officer, the group boarded an unmarked bus and drove roughly 20 miles to a windswept military complex in the desert sand.


The Colombians had entered the United Arab Emirates posing as construction workers. In fact, they were soldiers for a secret American-led mercenary army being built by Erik Prince, the billionaire founder of Blackwater Worldwide, with $529 million from the oil-soaked sheikdom.

Mr. Prince, who resettled here last year after his security business faced mounting legal problems in the United States, was hired by the crown prince of Abu Dhabi to put together an 800-member battalion of foreign troops for the U.A.E., according to former employees on the project, American officials and corporate documents obtained by The New York Times.

The force is intended to conduct special operations missions inside and outside the country, defend oil pipelines and skyscrapers from terrorist attacks and put down internal revolts, the documents show. Such troops could be deployed if the Emirates faced unrest or were challenged by pro-democracy demonstrations in its crowded labor camps or democracy protests like those sweeping the Arab world this year.

The U.A.E.’s rulers, viewing their own military as inadequate, also hope that the troops could blunt the regional aggression of Iran, the country’s biggest foe, the former employees said. The training camp, located on a sprawling Emirati base called Zayed Military City, is hidden behind concrete walls laced with barbed wire. Photographs show rows of identical yellow temporary buildings, used for barracks and mess halls, and a motor pool, which houses Humvees and fuel trucks. The Colombians, along with South African and other foreign troops, are trained by retired American soldiers and veterans of the German and British special operations units and the French Foreign Legion, according to the former employees and American officials.

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The Nukes from South Africa are supposedly long gone; in fact they supposedly abandoned that effort before they finished them. I suspect a bigger potential security problem would still be the Russian Nukes. They should focus more on the securing of these and less on fighting new wars that could potentially incite more hatred.

I suspect this issue is doing more to increase the paranoia of many people and get them to panic; however even if it isn't these wars do more harm than good.