Uganda: Parliament Committee Backs Anti-Homosexuality Bill

Uganda: Parliament Committee Backs Anti-Homosexuality Bill

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(Kampala) - The Ugandan parliament's Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Committee has regrettably recommended passage of the proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill, including retaining the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality," Human Rights Watch said today. The committee's report, as seen by Human Rights Watch, recommends amendments deleting some provisions but adding criminal penalties for "conduct[ing] a marriage ceremony between persons of the same sex."

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I would have never previously posted somthing like this due to my personal beliefs, I will admit it that often times I am a homophobe. However I believe all people should have the right to be with who ever they wish- wether man or woman. Personally I don't want the government medling in anyones affairs and I believe that at least at a federal level same sex marrage should be not just acceptable but legal.

It is a sad state of affairs that Ugandan citizens may face the death penalty for being attracted to the same sex- somthing which they can not stop. If this is the world we live in, where others who's morals are most likely questionable push there morals and there agenda upon someone they don't even know- then I'm not sure we deserve to inhabit the great Earth.

Keep your beliefs and your morals to yourself. If you do not agree with two men being together or two women being together then practice your morals and your beliefs on your own. Do not threaten another mans/womans life becuase of there sexual oreintation.

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I gotta hand it to ya, you see a wrong for what it is; in spite of your personal feelings. That is commendable. That any country in this day and age should attempt to instigate such repressive and vulgar legislation is something to note. Humans are very fallible creatures, and religion likes to exploit that. Religious views are assuredly behind the backward beliefs of the Ugandans.

I appreciate you expressing your concerns especially because of your personal views. Thanks!!

Originally posted by Tamahu

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Funny, I would think that appluading degeneration is rather exactly what they are doing.

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Psychological and fysiological, as biological differences in the brains structure of Homosexual people have been found in the later years. The Homosexuals Brains, that is, as Bisexuals, to my knowledge, was not included in the Studies.

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Perhaps the true action against degeneration would be to simply do it the other way around; apply the death penalty to the Ugandians that Backs the Death Penalty for Love couples of the "wrong" combination?

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Yeah right. In reality you are probably not even the least thinking that it "goes a bit far" as stated in the top, you probably think that they are doing it exactly the right way, huh?

So it's a win-lose situation here.

No, it's a lose-lose situation, as it shows that alot of Humans are not the leastest capable to live side by side with each other at all even in this day and age.

Originally posted by Tamahu
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So you think the death penalty is only a "bit" too far? Good Lord do you have a short scale by which to measure justice.

As far as degeneration goes, you are mistaken. The amount of homosexuality in the world today is the same as it has ever been. The amount of prejudice against it or for it wains and flows, but the actuality of it has not changed.

And pray tell, what qualifies you to diagnose that the cause of homosexuality is psychological? That may be your opinion, but the bulk of knowledge out there proves otherwise.

Perhaps you would find Uganda a nice place to live -- or not.

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You are not the first homophobe on this site to have a half naked man in his avatar.

Just an observation. It is a common pattern and suggests where your feelings might stem. Stop attacking other people, and seek to find peace instead of penitence within yourself instead. It will be a more fruitful endeavour in the long run.

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He may be a Noble Ancient African Ku#e-Mizraimite or Khemetian, but he is a hunk, nevertheless, and definitely showing his animal magnetism. Your attraction to this figure is understandable, regardless of how you rationalize it.

I'm thinking of doing some research on this guy myself.

As for people of African heritage, I gained a lot of personal experience in my youth. The ones I dealt with embraced their gayness wholeheartedly. They told me most of the rest embraced it in secret. A lot of older cultures do it privately without making a public statement. I have no problem with that. But to make a public who-ha about how bad homosexuality is is simply dishonest.

To assert that someone has homosexuals tendencies, without any proof, is slander.

And for someone to honestly state their view, is dishonest? How so?

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The dishonesty is in people who go overboard to denounce homosexuality whilst privately indulging in it. That is dishonest. My black American gay friends told me that that there is no such thing as a straight black man, because they all will "get off" any way and how they can in spite of what they say publicly. Of course they were exaggerating, but there was a lot of truth to that.

Many of the loudest objectors, like evangelical preachers, and black men, have been shown over and over again to be covering a dark secret with their public outcry. You see these stories in the news all the time. Even Osama bin Laden is being accused by the MSM of watching porn . Why not? It is pretty normal human behavior; unfortunately not all people have the fortitude to admit it.

Because they can't deal with it themselves they attack those who seem to be OK with it. Anyway, it is not for me to sit here and tell you who you are. Similarly, it is not for you to cast judgement on men and women who are hurting no-one by their sexual orientation or by their enjoyment of sex.

Explore your own avenues but do not think that you have any right to judge others. Supporting the brutal regime in Uganda does you no credit whatsoever.

A lot of subjective justifications for accusing another of homosexuality without proof. Yet still, no proof.

Obviously, someone who engages in homosexual activity whilst speaking against it, is acting dishonest. That goes without saying.

However, it would be in one's best karmic interests to retract any baseless assertions that someone else has homosexual tendencies.

And besides that, posting subjective opinions about another poster's sexual preferences, is off-topic here; to say the least.


Now the following quotes show a lot of dishonesty:

Originally posted by wayno
You are not the first homophobe on this site to have a half naked man in his avatar.

Originally posted by wayno
Your attraction to this figure is understandable, regardless of how you rationalize it.

Originally posted by wayno
The dishonesty is in people who go overboard to denounce homosexuality whilst privately indulging in it. That is dishonest.

Originally posted by wayno
Anyway, it is not for me to sit here and tell you who you are.

Yet even though you've kind of admitted in this last quote that you are wrong, in a roundabout way; you have still not actually retracted your false accusation.

We hate the most that which we fear the most in ourselves.

No need for a second line.

Nevertheless, to not completely tolerate degeneration, is much different than hating.

In fact, to completely tolerate degeneration, is sometimes a form of hate.

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I haven't directly accused you of anything. I only made note of correlations between behaviour and traits typically associated with them, but if the shoe fits, wear it.

Mithrawept hit the nail on the head. That statement is 100% true no matter what the subject matter.

You've qualified your support of the Uganda government, but I still disagree with your position. I am 100% opposed to their initiative. You continue to refer to homosexuality as "degeneration". You are therefore calling me and everyone like me a "degenerate".

How do you think that makes me feel? Does it give you pleasure? Who is the degenerate here?

Everyone is free to have their own opinion, and can "indirectly" accuse others of having tendencies all they want; but the facts are the facts, regardless of what anyone believes.

If you'll notice, I've not condemned anyone personally here; and do recognize that everyone who has ego and who does not perfectly transmute their sexual energy, also has egos of the sphere of Lilith.


In addition to the above link, see also this thread in another forum (link):

Samael's Attitude toward Homosexuality

"In Gnosis we know from our teacher that we must never condemn a person for his wrong actions, because we are all equally guilty (Let he who is wihtout sin cast the first stone.) Yet, simultaneously, we must also clearly and constantly indicate what those wrong actions are, and homosexuality is one among them. This activity causes suffering. It is similar to many other harmful actions one can pursue, and can stop. Although our modern society is desperately attempting to make this practice acceptable, this is only due to recurrence of past events and the will of a large number of very powerful, very degenerated persons. It does not make it proper or correct. As we know, morals and ethics are the product of personality and time. Yet the Law of the Christ is beyond individuality, time, or desire. To become one with that, one must shed all activity which conflicts with the Great Law."

See within the above linked thread on another forum, the replies posted by the Gnostic Instructors in particular; and especially post #28 in the latter linked thread.

Originally posted by Tamahu

I do recognize that everyone who has ego and who does not perfectly transmute their sexual energy, also has egos of the sphere of Lilith.

Completely nonsensical rubbish!

IRM