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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Opspeculate
It would be easier to discern all of this stuff if direct fluid spontaneous unbiased questions could be posed and picked apart during a cross examination of the now several official stories during the 2001 - 2011 time-line.
Wake up, man! You must have fallen asleep for a minute there because you were dreaming!
Yes, that would be really nice. I'd LOVE to see that... I guess over the past 30 years or so, I have resigned myself to the idea that the government lies to us. I hate it and I think it's WRONG, but it's the way this corrupt operation works now. This is not our forefathers' government. This is a new beast. This is the US in the 21st century. It's horrible and doesn't, in any way, resemble what this country was meant to be.
I cry for my country. Crying for My Country
Originally posted by Opspeculate
Wondering if you see this happening though with respect to the items on the list...
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Opspeculate
Wondering if you see this happening though with respect to the items on the list...
Oh, absolutely not! Without a doubt, that will NOT happen. The fact that we didn't put GWBush and company on trial for crimes against country and humanity proves to me that the people in the government are protected from such scrutiny. The fact that we impeached a president for getting a BJ in the oval office gives me NO hope whatsoever of an open dialogue with the elites. Never going to happen. I guess that's why I'm sort of resigned to not knowing the truth. I don't think ANYTHING we could do would make it happen.
I'm a political agnostic. I don't know what the hell is going on.
As I have said before, I'm glad I am not young and that I don't have kids that will have to deal with what's coming in this country. I would hate to be young and be aware of the fight ahead for survival in this failing and collapsing society.
Did you hear my song?edit on 5/10/2011 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by john_bmth
News flash: none of these "facts" are facts, they're conjecture.
Originally posted by No Retreat No Surrender
Just one thing makes we beleive OBL died a long time ago and thats because he never was seen on video clearly in 10 long years. I read somewhere that this was because it would have been a risk and could have got him found. Thats rubbish you telling me a sopposedly top terror network cannot post a video to Al-jazzera without getting caught?
To me this one simple fact proves OBL was gone a long time ago.
Originally posted by Opspeculate
reply to post by tomten
Good one... for the FBI it's a U
For the MSM it's an O or U or ?
Right down to his name spelling there are 2 stories FFS.......... LOL
OMG
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
There is ONLY one undeniable FACT here.
None of us will ever know the full truth.
Because of that, sites like ATS, and sensationalists like Alex Jones will thrive on it.
In the absence of absolute proof, anything is possible.
Originally posted by Opspeculate
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
There is ONLY one undeniable FACT here.
None of us will ever know the full truth.
Because of that, sites like ATS, and sensationalists like Alex Jones will thrive on it.
In the absence of absolute proof, anything is possible.
Yes...
If we wait for the moment when everything absolutely everything is ready we shall never begin...
A choice must be made soon...
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
Originally posted by Opspeculate
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
There is ONLY one undeniable FACT here.
None of us will ever know the full truth.
Because of that, sites like ATS, and sensationalists like Alex Jones will thrive on it.
In the absence of absolute proof, anything is possible.
Yes...
If we wait for the moment when everything absolutely everything is ready we shall never begin...
A choice must be made soon...
What on earth does that even mean? It sounds like you're doing a voiceover for a summer blockbuster trailer not commenting on a post! Really mate, a little less on the dramatic if you please.
As for the Infowars article, I really only want to comment on the first of his "facts" since all the rest are just bunk and don't really deal with me. However, he's calling out all of the experts that still said Osama was alive and labeling them as not worth anyone's time.
That's just idiotic! The vast majority of every expert I have ever interviewed about anything to do with Osama still believed the man to be alive, until May 1st of course, by a huge margin.
Why didn't Jones point out the most obvious thing here and say in fact what was real: Most experts believed that Osama was living somewhere in the tribal regions in Northwestern Pakistan, not an affluent suburb? That much is true for certain, not this "he was already dead" bull. Those of us in the much-hated so-called "mainstream media" tend to go out and try to find as many varying viewpoints on any story like this one. Of course we interviewed some people who questioned if Osama was alive, but I never, ever, came across a single one that categorically said there was any evidence he had actually died.
Besides, Al-Qaeda themselves admit he was killed by the Americans. How is that for proof?
I swear, next Jones is going to say Hitler's still alive and living in a trailer outside of Buffalo or something, man I just can't take anything infowars says seriously anymore.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
Lets say (hypotheticals) this whole operation did take place.....the chances they captured and killed Osama is HIGHLY unlikely knowing the chances of Osama had died in 2001 has more truth to it. Therefore, they got the wrong guy and by that, would be extremely embarrassing for Obama and most definately would explain afew things. If that was the case; Obama and his military committed murder.
Originally posted by Weishaupt
Lets say, it exist a lot of frighten minds here..
That find forums like this, and the very first time in their life.. they start to think for them self..
But something happens along the thinking, they get so scared of the possibilities that our leaders are full of it.
And they start to defend their puny tiny illusion.. over and over until their minds shuts down...
And everything is obey again..