New alien footage. Real or fake? Experts, have yourself a look & discuss

IT'S a Fake. It's a small child with something on its head. Anyway how would he get that turtle neck uniform over that head. It's got a zipper down the back right.

a reply to: LA1IMPALA

I've no doubt it's fake, but that's just absurd.

So far all we have is speculation and one article on a website that conducted a thorough ad hominem attack, but nothing has definitely proven it authentic or hoax yet.

Surprised no one has been able to do that after almost four years, where most hoaxes on here are debunked in days if not hours or even minutes.

originally posted by: LA1IMPALA
IT'S a Fake. It's a small child with something on its head. Anyway how would he get that turtle neck uniform over that head. It's got a zipper down the back right.

Really? A mask? I would love to find that mask maker and use them for next Halloween, I for one have never seen masks with pulsating blood vessels and blinking eyelids.

Come-on people, we need more than a five second grade school analysis. Pinke has provided us with some good info to work with, we need more along those lines.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I think CGI could produce pulsating veins today - but it would be the same vein or veins.

I have never seen a puppet with pulsating blood vessels.

and just before you post this

So you think you can see stop motion which would indicate you believe this movie was made with some kind of puppet?

So you think you can pulsating veins?


I have seen it all know, the displays shown by yourself and few others on ATS recently having me thinking in a completely new light.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Not sure what your point was my friend, but my points were these, I don't believe any are contradictory:

1. Masks don't have pulsating blood vessels

2. Todays CGI I imagine is capable of producing pulsating blood vessels, the same one in the same location,

3. I don't know if today's CGI is capable of producing pulsating blood vessels that are different in different locations as seen in the video on the beings forehead and neck, but if it is it still doesn't help us if this footage is from the 1950's.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

I have seen it all know, the displays shown by yourself and few others on ATS recently having me thinking in a completely new light.

What? The mods are on vacation? I remember this video being posted before and ending up in the hoax been within minutes before I had a chance to respond. Or do you think there is a team of people here trying to make anything having to do with UFOs look as ridiculous as possible?

a reply to: ZetaRediculian

If that is the case it still should be there and easy to find, why don't you post that thread, if it exists, and we will see the reason, as the mods always post one in such cases.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

If that is the case it still should be there and easy to find, why don't you post that thread, if it exists, and we will see the reason, as the mods always post one in such cases.

HERE is the most detailed analysis I've found so far.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

If that is the case it still should be there and easy to find, why don't you post that thread, if it exists, and we will see the reason, as the mods always post one in such cases.

I tried earlier to search for it. I am certain it was this video, though I have been certain about things before ... It might have even been 404ed. I can't remember exactly but there was no explanation from what remember. Just poof!

a reply to: draknoir2

Your link is broken, but if I remember that article with the title "Analysis of the latest alien footage" or something along those lines, it was basically a nice ad hominem attack on one of the people who posted the video, but didn't really say anything about the actual video, apart from what you would expect from an ad hominem attack, the logical fallacy of "this person is crazy so the video must not be true".

Kind of funny especially since she wasn't the first person to post the video, it was ivan0135.

Basically same as saying no matter how authentic your youtube video is, if a crazy person later posts it to their youtube channel, it invalidates the video.

Is that logical?

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: draknoir2

Your link is broken, but if I remember that article with the title "Analysis of the latest alien footage" or something

I think it might be a website banned by ATS. I'll message you the link.

originally posted by: Swills


Yeah that does bother me too. I've never converted an old reel film to digital before, so if I did, wouldnt that sound not be on the digital copy?

Nope.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: InhaleExhale

Not sure what your point was my friend, but my points were these, I don't believe any are contradictory:

1. Masks don't have pulsating blood vessels

2. Todays CGI I imagine is capable of producing pulsating blood vessels, the same one in the same location,

3. I don't know if today's CGI is capable of producing pulsating blood vessels that are different in different locations as seen in the video on the beings forehead and neck, but if it is it still doesn't help us if this footage is from the 1950's.

There is an even more basic problem--veins don't pulsate.

Have you ever watched shows about special effects? Yes, they can make masks with pulsating regions.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: InhaleExhale

Not sure what your point was my friend, but my points were these, I don't believe any are contradictory:

1. Masks don't have pulsating blood vessels

2. Todays CGI I imagine is capable of producing pulsating blood vessels, the same one in the same location,

3. I don't know if today's CGI is capable of producing pulsating blood vessels that are different in different locations as seen in the video on the beings forehead and neck, but if it is it still doesn't help us if this footage is from the 1950's.

There is an even more basic problem--veins don't pulsate.

Have you ever watched shows about special effects? Yes, they can make masks with pulsating regions.

Watched John Carpenter's The Thing with my son when the remake came out. He couldn't believe there was no CGI.

A lot of throbbing and pulsating in that flick.

At a basic level there are lots of things wrong.

What it is:




What it should be:


Side note: this is from another of Ivan's videos but the group of clips are all related.

a reply to: NavyDoc

There is an even more basic problem--veins don't pulsate.

Even more basic is that nothing in that video is pulsating.

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: NavyDoc

There is an even more basic problem--veins don't pulsate.

Even more basic is that nothing in that video is pulsating.

You are correct, I could not see pulsating either, but wanted to give the benefit of a doubt that someone saw some pulsating

a reply to: Swills

Fake CGI,he got lazy,the craft,the crash are out of focus,no framing of the craft,being's,because he put a lot of time into skinny bob.This is very time consuming to do,buts its a fun fake.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: NavyDoc

There is an even more basic problem--veins don't pulsate.

Even more basic is that nothing in that video is pulsating.

You are correct, I could not see pulsating either, but wanted to give the benefit of a doubt that someone saw some pulsating

However, what I see is more likely a skin condition aggravated by Earth's polluted atmosphere.

Fake. Greys dont blink.