Why I'm voting NDP in this election and why you should too.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

The NDP are the only current party who has never screwed the majority of Canadians, can you say the same for the others?

~Keeper

That's because they've never been in power!

reply to post by leo123


So, hold up.

You are stating that if they were in power they would do the exact same thing as any other party whose ever been in power in Canada?

Even though, there is no proof, or ammount of evidence which could prove that point, it's all speculation on your part? I'm good with that.

I think the NDP would do good things, probably some bad things too, but better things than the other 3 parties or their current leaders.

~Keeper

reply to post by Buddha1098

It's not the people on the ballot or who's voted in or congress that makes the decisions,it's the bankers that control the money,they have control of everything.Congress and the president could in all theory be bobble-heads and do just as good of job as the real ones!i don't know why we even have elections.

Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to post by leo123

 

The fact that you think someone making 50k isn't rich is pretty telling... 80% of the world lives on less than $10 a day. So vote conservative, they only spend money on things that really matter like F-22s and the 2010 Olympics...

Hello Buddha:

I think you need a dose of reality here. The average income in Canada today is $73K and not only 30% of Canadians cannot afford to live today, average Canadians spend more than half their income on taxes and 1 in 3 retirees is still in debt.

Tax away you NDP'ers on the *RICH* workers making 50K a year at a 50% income tax rate!

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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by leo123

 

So, hold up.

You are stating that if they were in power they would do the exact same thing as any other party whose ever been in power in Canada?

Even though, there is no proof, or ammount of evidence which could prove that point, it's all speculation on your part? I'm good with that.

I think the NDP would do good things, probably some bad things too, but better things than the other 3 parties or their current leaders.

~Keeper

Keeper:

There is ample proof of what utter destruction the NDP does when they get into power and you need only look at their recent, "Scorched Earth Policies", they unleashed upon the economies of Ontario and BC in the 1990's.

There is no getting around this fact, Keeper.

The BC economy has since recovered, but it did require somewhat radical conservative reforms. Ontario has not recovered from the "RAYDAZ" debt days.

reply to post by leo123


It has been pointed out that yes, NDP put BC into a deficit, but at least it was because of favourable programs and services for the public. Our "recovering" economy is solely from the scandalous and evil politics of Gordon Campbell. While the books may have been balanced it was at the cost to those who could afford it the least.

Originally posted by leo123

Originally posted by Buddha1098
reply to post by leo123

 

The fact that you think someone making 50k isn't rich is pretty telling... 80% of the world lives on less than $10 a day. So vote conservative, they only spend money on things that really matter like F-22s and the 2010 Olympics...

Hello Buddha:

I think you need a dose of reality here. The average income in Canada today is $73K and not only 30% of Canadians cannot afford to live today, average Canadians spend more than half their income on taxes and 1 in 3 retirees is still in debt.

Tax away you NDP'ers on the *RICH* workers making 50K a year at a 50% income tax rate!

globalgulag.freesmfhosting.com...

cnews.canoe.ca...

www.ctv.ca...

Hello Leo!

Here is a dose of reality. 25000 people will die on this planet today because of poverty, 16000 of them children. This isn't because we don't have enough food, it's because people like you and I in the west don't care enough to do anything about it.

Also the average income in Canada is no where near $73k. $73k is the average combined household income of couples with children. When you include everyone the average household income is $46k.

If you make $73k and you can't make ends meet you're spending too much on stuff you don't need.

I think the reason for the disconnect in our conversation is that you live in Canada and I live on Earth.

well the cons are still leading by a bit so bump

for the ndp lol

From what I can tell, all three parties have more to say about how bad the other guy is than what it is they actually plan to do.

No one thinks Layton has a real chance at winning. The recent rise in popularity of the NDP in certain polls is, IMO because more Liberals are finding themselves turned off by Ignatief.

Layton and the NDP will have to be more than 'not the other guy' to really be an effective national party.

Originally posted by Dendro
reply to post by leo123

 

It has been pointed out that yes, NDP put BC into a deficit, but at least it was because of favourable programs and services for the public.

But isn't a deficit of any kind not a good policy?

One eventually has to pay off those 'popular programs'.

The first party that says " i will legalize Marijuana" would win the election hands down..

Too bad no party has the sack to stand strong on that issue...

Btw Voting is a waste of time

Originally posted by Akragon
The first party that says " i will legalize Marijuana" would win the election hands down..

Too bad no party has the sack to stand strong on that issue...

Btw Voting is a waste of time

They might win BC and the east coast But here in God chosen Alberta we do what were told.

Back when I use to vote, it was for the NDP simply because they were most likely to protect the public from corporate interests. Since the nature of our profit based economy gradually breeds (without fail) corporate monsters in the form of multinational conglomerates who buy up all "smaller competitors", it seemed like the right choice. Even though it's hammered into us that "globalization" is a good thing.

Nowadays, with the ability to understand the level of manipulation at play in every societal system/institution; it's unconscionable and against every fiber of my being to vote for any existing political party. Not that I'm against voting, it's just that I can't vote for a party that doesn't acknowledge ANY of the actual problems we face.

The day a party comes around and acknowledges the fact that we don't create our own currency and instead steal some 30 billion dollars a year from citizens in the form of income tax so that it can be paid to the banks who provide us the use of THEIR money at interest; is the day I'd consider voting. And that's at the very least of what they'd have to acknowledge and address.

This business of voting for the "lesser of the evils" is nothing more than participating in a puppet show for adults. It's too bad we don't have legitimate choices but it doesn't mean we should suck it up and play along.

Also the business about "use it or lose it" is ridiculous too. If you think we should be proud that we get to vote in this country where other countries don't even get that privilege; then I don't know what to tell you. A choice between a kick in the nuts or a punch in the face isn't much of a choice. I'll choose neither thanks.

And BTW, we aren't electing anything, we are participating in an illusion that we are electing someone. The game plan doesn't change - the same "hands" are moving the puppets' mouths regardless of what we think we voted in. What policies aren't enacted this round will be saved for next round while they chip away at the other side of structure. One way or another, they all eat away at the foundation.

reply to post by StrangeBrew


Sad but true brother..... But you have to admit this voter revolt is a step in the right direction.


By the way if you want to talk futile how about trying to get a point across with Hockey Night in Canada as competition.

I'm not voting. All parties are pro war. I'm not an anti war activist, I just see ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE in it, at least the fake reasons that we are always told. The promised lies are just too much. Layton said he was going to cap credit card company interest rates at 5%.. Yea. Ok, and I'm an North Korean with a heavy Brooklyn accent and I hate rice. Everyone has their little anecdotes and stories about how they voted for such and such party and got screwed over. Well in Canada we have no leadership that has the balls to even talk about Libya now, but Afghanistan was a hot topic when it suited them. Wake up Canucks, don't believe any of those tele prompt readers.

The attack ads are the same BS the media has used to make us angry. I'll give Layton one thing, and he has a smile, and an inter racial marriage. Other than that, prepare to be disappointed.
my 2 above parity cents