80% of Brits don't care about the royal wedding.

Originally posted by scoobyrob
reply to post by Itop1

 

proud of your british history??
well i for one wouldn be proud of your past ofter what they done to us irish.

proud for all the torture and suffering that was caused??

well then i dont feel sorry for what the IRA do to your country

if you proud of what your country's past has done you cant give out about what the IRA have done to your country.

and just to add, please dont fill me with bs about what went on, i know what went on

You should make another thread about Ireland and the IRA, that would be going offtopic, but for the record i couldnt give a toss about ireland, they almost just cost us a huge amount of money to bail them out.

This is why I'm glad I don't live in Britain. I don't want to pay money so that some posh "royal" couple can have an expensive wedding and expensive jewelry, food, clothing, etc. without doing anything in return.

Originally posted by Itop1

Originally posted by LostMyPassword

Originally posted by Itop1

Originally posted by LostMyPassword

Originally posted by Itop1
Oh and some more facts that you probably didn't realise.... the queen pays taxes, taxes which infact far exceed the expenses they get, the queen gets about £35 million a year, she pays back AT LEAST that in taxes and she doesnt take a salery either, she acctually ends up pumping more money in than she takes out, if you bother doing all the math and calculations.

The Queen was forced to pay income tax. It wasn't a good will act, support for the Monarchy was at an all time low and people were ready to well and truly get rid of the old leech. And opening up Buckingham Palace was another PR act brought about at the same time.

Find me one independent study to show the Monarchy brings decent economical gains. And I don't want to see any half arsed reports relating to people visiting the Palace or other such places. But actual economical gains dependent upon their existence.

Acctually, you're wrong, the queen volunteered to pay tax back in 1992 actually, so get your facts straight first, secondly, Tourism in the UK contributes to around 4.5% of britain GDP and is one of the UK's largest industries, what do you think people come to see? amongst our free to enter museums.
The royal events and locations are the biggest hit, if it weren't for the royal family we wouldn't have landmarks like the tower of london, buckingham palace or the royal gardens, it just wouldnt exist, instead we would have something similar to the US, a huge white building with a president, i love our history and heritage, i dont give a crap what grudges you got against them, they benefit our country, diplomacy and economy and im proud of what the UK is and what has been for hundreds of years, if you dont like it i'll give you the same advice as i would to a foreign immigrant.... LEAVE.

Volunteered in the face of massive mounting scrutiny and breaking point anti-Royal opinion. Why didn't she volunteer in 1982, or 72, or etc etc. She was forced to 'volunteer' lmao. What she did was nothing short of co-optation. She volunteered and went about doing things to appease the masses because she had no choice. But ask yourself why it wasn't volunteered earlier? In fact don't act yourself, clearly you don't care.

I know what people come to see, and I told you already. Landmarks and architecture. Of course without Monarchy these things wouldn't exist, but that's erroneous. People still see the Pyramids, don't they? People still see architecture and monuments created by Monarchy, in nations that no longer have them, right? You want to skew the facts, you're being dishonest here. You know aswell as I do we could get rid of Monarchy tomorrow and tourism lost would be so insignificant it wouldn't even be worth mentioning.

And btw. Millions go to see that big white building every year. And it looks a hell of alot nicer than Buckingham Palace, let me tell you. One is a symbol of Democracy and freedom. The other symbolizes oppression and slavery.

There we have it though. You support the Monarchy and their activities, even hundreds of years ago when they were actively involved in making life an absolute misery for a good part of the world. You probably have Rule Britannia on vinyl.

And btw, here's an idea, you leave! Britain hasn't represented what you want it to represent since, well, since forever. Throughout history the majority have opposed tyrannical rule from Monarchs and the majority have always championed Democracy and freedom. If you don't like what Britain is, and if you don't share the views of the majority of Britons, why don't you piss off? You'd probably enjoy North Korea.

Understand you're in the minority. Now go eat a prawn sandwich, listen to Rule Britannia and do whatever you said you were going to do when you claimed to be finishing the debate 4 posts back.

You would like to think im in the minority, I'm 100% british and proud, my great grandfathers fought in the war, my dad served in the army and ive even did a stint myself, why should i piss off, your the one basically putting down everything british, i know its hard for you to swallow, but the monarchy is part of what britain is, and has been for 100's of years, i think you are the one that should piss off, you obviously disagree with everything british, so why dont you emigrate to america, im sure USA - The land of Democracy and FREEDOM *caugh* would happily take you

Really, your family fought in the war? Jeeze, that's unique. It's not like me and every other Briton on here cannot say the exact same thing. You think my Grandparents and great grandparents were lounging around in the back garden playing cricket while the country was engaged in world wars?

I mean, what does fighting in the war even have to do with the Monarchy? People didn't fight wars for Monarchy, they fought wars IN SPITE of Monarchy. You're just a goose mate. I'm telling you as a fact that the majority have never liked the Monarchy. Haven't you ever picked up a history book? I can't even believe you deny this, what strange part of the country are you from? I need to know, it's got to be some absolutely preposterous quaint middle class village in the South West. Am I right?

Literally, you're ridiculous. For as long as the Monarchy existed, it's been opposed. The majority of Britons had their land and money stolen by the Monarchy. The majority do not like the Monarchy. The only reason it's even tolerated now is because they're not in a position to commit the crimes against humanity that they used to so actively engage in. Go back a few hundred years when the Monarchy was exercising their power and there were people dying to kill these scumbags.

There's no difference between you and a North Korean. Both want to be ruled over by a Totalitarian Monarchy in the name of 'nationalism' and supporting what you think it is to be British, or they North Korean.

You're testing my gag reflex with this drivel.

Originally posted by scoobyrob
reply to post by Itop1

 

proud of your british history??
well i for one wouldn be proud of your past ofter what they done to us irish.

proud for all the torture and suffering that was caused??

well then i dont feel sorry for what the IRA do to your country

if you proud of what your country's past has done you cant give out about what the IRA have done to your country.

and just to add, please dont fill me with bs about what went on, i know what went on

Don't stoop to his level. Remember most English folk were also victim to the Empire. These nationalists and Monarch types like to blur the line between nationalism and monarchy, but there's nothing more English than opposing the elite swine. Alot of people forget the English were slaves to the Empire too, nobody in England saw reward or wanted to kill and oppress fellow working men and women. The monarchs love to make it a national issue and keep us subservient by trying to make it an issue of nationalism and being English, but it always has and always will be a class issue. The working class majority hate and always have hated the Monarchy. The minority of upper class and middle class support the monarchy.

Look back to the white working class English who championed and protested for the rights and freedom of their black brother and sister as an example, and this happened too with the Irish, especially in the North where there was a decent number.

Originally posted by Itop1

Originally posted by scoobyrob
reply to post by Itop1

 

proud of your british history??
well i for one wouldn be proud of your past ofter what they done to us irish.

proud for all the torture and suffering that was caused??

well then i dont feel sorry for what the IRA do to your country

if you proud of what your country's past has done you cant give out about what the IRA have done to your country.

and just to add, please dont fill me with bs about what went on, i know what went on

You should make another thread about Ireland and the IRA, that would be going offtopic, but for the record i couldnt give a toss about ireland, they almost just cost us a huge amount of money to bail them out.

It's not another thread, it's the exact same thread. The oppressive Monarchy who you love and admire ruined Ireland and made life a misery for those who had the misfortune of being born there. It's absolutely relevant.

And Ireland never asked to be bailed out. It's an EU robbery. Ireland wouldn't play ball with the EU, so the EU and their mob of criminal bankers and corporates held Ireland to ransom, threatening to ruin the economy and pulling investments.

Originally posted by Nosred
This is why I'm glad I don't live in Britain. I don't want to pay money so that some posh "royal" couple can have an expensive wedding and expensive jewelry, food, clothing, etc. without doing anything in return.

But but but they live in a palace and help tourism

It is going to rain here tomorrow as far as i know. I will watch it as it will make history but in my opinion i don't care for it, it's just an excuse for a knees up, us Brits are paying for it so we should be allowed to have a good day.

They could have built a couple of hospitals with the amount of money going on this wedding! It is truely disgusting! Infact everyone involved should be thoughoughly ashamed. There are people starving across the world and in Britain too. There are peopel living on the breadline, wondering when their electricity is going to run out and old people living on their meagre pensions. I cannot get my head around it.
Would peopel lick their feet? Are they that special?
Even when thatcher was in power the queen did nothing to stop the evil old bag! What is wrong with people, when are they going to wake up and smell the coffee?

reply to post by LostMyPassword


I noticed not one single mention of Prince William or his mother in your post.

Well done.....so Prince William makes us all proud after all!

Oh, and Prince Philip's latest was during a Barry Obama (or whatever he calls himself these days) visit to Britain when Prince Philip asked Obama if he can tell the difference between the Russians and the Chinese! For me personally, I can't tell the difference between an African and half of the Afro-Americans or an Indian and a Paki.......can you?

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They do plenty for you.....for god's sake they let all you commoners get drunk and run stark naked around the streets.....

what more do you want?

I'm not really particularly interested in the wedding, but I hope that the day goes well for everybody concerned.

If some unpleasantness did befall William, then it is my patriotic duty to selflessly and intrepidly offer any ''services'' that the delightful Ms. Middleton may subsequently require.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
So you are telling me they did a poll on every single Brit?

You may want to look up the meaning of the word "poll." All opinion polls are samples with a marginal plus/minus error.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by TechVampyre

 

Of course not, but thats why there are now 500 American reporters NOW in London to cover the wedding!!!

HELLOOOOOOO !!!

There over there to try and shove it down their throats.
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The "royal" family is just an incredible waste of the UK's money, the only reason they're still around is to hang on to an obsolete tradition. Taxpayer money would be better spent literally anywhere else.

Originally posted by Nosred
the only reason they're still around is to hang on to an obsolete tradition.

Don't be fooled by that "tradition" crap. You don't shut down an entire economy for a day, declare a national holiday and get the slobbering attention of the entire western press over mere "tradition."

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Tradition is the only reason they still have a royal family. All they're good for is ribbon cutting, being in parades, and wasting money. The government is just trying to hold onto the memory of a time that is long gone.

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You need to learn how a Parliamentary "democracy" really works. I have already addressed it thoroughly in this post www.abovetopsecret.com...

and other posts in the same thread.

Originally posted by TheMaverick

so do we in the west really care about the royal wedding,i for one don't !

Well, the Royal wedding did bring up an interesting moment for me - I realized that I had to do a search to find out what the last name is going to be. I guess I'm not exactly a Royal-watcher...

So in other words, 80% of Brits are not complete retards. Hmm. Good for them.
I mean, regarding the "royal wedding", who gives a ****!? Not me.
How the hell is it relevant? I have no idea.

There are much more pressing issues at hand; but basically, the media is just a tool to keep people stupid. This is no exception.

Originally posted by LostMyPassword

Originally posted by Essan
Just for the record, the UK taxpayer is paying for the security, but not the wedding. We also pay for the security when a bunch of rich kids run riot in London complaining that the world doesn't work according to their naive ideals. And, indeed, when the IRA or whoever threaten a bombing attack.

The Royal Family brings in far more money than it costs us, and remains the envy of the world. Why are so many thousands of journalists from America in London this week?

What do the Royal Family bring in that wouldn't exist without them? The argument is bunk.

Egypt long since got rid of their kings and queens, but people still go to see the Pyramids.

This idea that the Royals are adding to the economy is ROFL-level funny. People would visit our great architecture with or without some ancient sponge living on the premises. The entire argument you're putting forward is without anything in the way of real evidence. You're promoting fallacy.

How about tourists coming to see....the British people?

Don't the people matter when tourists travel?

Are royals the only reason to travel to Britain?