NSA releases 29 messages from space?

Just decoded the message...
It took me a while,(been doing it for several days-WAYbefore this post started)...
But..
What I can read is this:

Can we party with you guys???

It is NOT a statement!!!...
It is a QUESTION!!

They just want to party with us...
It is really that simple...
Hang out, share some stories, you know, just like EVERYTHING we do everyday...

I can't wait until they FINALLY GET HERE...

Only one problem...

They are too far away...
Sad indeed...

We will ALL be dead before we have physical contact...
(Them & us)

But...

The good news is, we have an open channel to them...

They have given us HUGE amounts of data about how the universe crap works,..

Thats all great & everything, but...
We have to translate everything they have told us so far, which will take aprox. 10 years to decipher...

Thanks for bringing this post...

I did not want to be the one who had to tell the rest of the world this....

Good luck to your privacy BTW....

Peace

I am so happy that the truth has been revealed...

Ok...I am very excited but not reacting. It seems like every time they find a signal, its someone's cellphone or our TV signal.



Keeping My fingers crossed.

Originally posted by Tephra
This story reminds me heavily of the coverup of the Voyager 2 program. Voyager 2 lost contact with us, and then out of nowhere starts sending back all kinds of unknown messages, and who knows what the truth is with Voyager 2.

I am glad I am not the only one who thinks of this.
That was indeed some weird s+%t!!

Double post...

Originally posted by JustSomeIdiot

Originally posted by die_another_day
What on earth will make you think that you can ever decipher an alien language?

Seriously. The amount of difference between Chinese and Latin-based languages is so freakin enormous that we can't even translate modern texts right.

Huh?? Who is the "we"? There exists quite a few people who can very precisely translate Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese or Classical along with their many dialects and other mutually-unintelligible languages spoken in China) into any modern or dead (but well understood) language you'd like - and no, no one person could likely perform all permutations of these translations. I myself have no trouble translating Mandarin (specifically 普通话 / 国语) to English or vice-versa. All that is required is a suitable grasp of both languages and of the cultural aspects (idioms, allegories, metaphors, etc) embedded within the sample to be translated. Yeah, some idioms still are hard for me - but there certainly exists experts who aren't tripped up.

I realize that there are times where one might doubt this. The ever present "chinglish" or "engrish" examples found on signs, product labels and documentation, etc. shows how hard it is for someone not knowing a lot about both languages to produce a good translation. And it shows how hard it is for automated systems to render good translations over a broad range of samples.

Now, to translate a language you know nothing about is tricky at best. Lacking any knowledge of the culture or even the nature of the creature using it or of the environment in which that creature lives makes it practically impossible. There are examples of dead languages used by human cultures here on earth that have so far resisted our understanding. And these are relatively easy.

But, suppose the message was specifically crafted by an intelligent being with the INTENT that it be understandable to any sufficiently advanced culture. That kind of message would necessarily be based on simple (at first) encodings of universal principles (math, physics, etc) and completely free of cultural or environmental biases. Such a message could be decoded with effort and could be used to build up a synthetic language used to encode nearly any manner of subject.

This EXERCISE by the NSA seems to be an example of identifying and decoding such a message. I doubt it is more than that.

This particular exercise does seem to ignore the issue of message transport encoding suitable for broadcasting (directed or not) a message where its integrity must be be maintained over interstellar distances where even tightly collimated coherent beams would diverge substantially to cause power at the receiver to be relatively low and yet still detectable and able to carry information in the presence of all manner of noise and signal attenuating conditions.

Consider how little power even a 1 gigawatt transmitter could deliver to a 100 meter disk even when its beam is constrained to only the area covered by orbits of the terrestrial planets (radius of about 250,000km) of our solar system - that's about 0.5 microwatts if I did my math right. That, I believe, would be an amazingly (impossibly?) narrow beam, assuming interstellar distances, sent by someone who already knows or suspects our star holds at least one planet inhabited with an advanced civilization. More likely the beam would be very broad or would be an omnidirectional broadcast so the transmitter would have to be ridiculously powerful to produce a few picowatts worth of signal at even a very large receiver more than a handful of lightyears away. Not impossible, but not trivial. Obviously SETI folks think this is feasible.

This encoding (in frequency, modulation and information encoding) would also have to be devised in a way that is discoverable and robust (with sufficient redundancy) but is suitable for carrying useful amounts of information. And it has to work with no requirement for the receiver to ask "can you repeat that". I am sure this too is readily solvable by the suitably trained and capable mathematicians, scientists and engineers we have today. Further, I assume any other truly advanced culture capable of having the intent to and of building the means to send such a message could do this as well.

Dude...
Keep it simple.
\Too much text...

i have decoded it.................. it took me 5 years......... it appears to be a Spanish version of 'Cry me a River' by J. Timberlake.............. that guy gets everywhere.

Originally posted by metaldave
Dude...
Keep it simple.
\Too much text...

Yeah... A techwriter who worked for me long ago once said of my user's guide for our encryption product - "Very good, but you use too many words." She spent a week and came up with a version of about half the size that lost no information.

Oh well...

reply to post by Watts


NASA and Astrologers are looking for Planets with a Fixed Sun. Nobody is
looking for a Planet on a Elipical Orbit.

Sure Life forms could be based on Silicon, Iron but the same thing would still apply.
Spending thousands of years in a Freezer, and then shifting to a sauna. How cound
anything adapt to that. Even the basic properties of Iron and Silicon would change at
these temps, It just defies any logic. Everything on Earth deveolops for a reason, if
Earth was in Perpetual Darkness their would be reason to evolve eyss.

To: JustSomeIdiot


For real...
It's all good tho bro...
I do understand when a person has something to REALLY say!!

On Topic:

How do I look up these coordinates to verify everything I/we have found???

On google earth/sky that is...

Thanks for the support-YOU RULE ALL!!!

I/we will beat THE syStem...

Full disclosure is here!!

Coordinates...
Please...
Thanks...

Originally posted by skeptic_al
reply to post by Watts

 

NASA and Astrologers are looking for Planets with a Fixed Sun. Nobody is
looking for a Planet on a Elipical Orbit.

I am fairly certain NASA does not work with astrologers.

Originally posted by JustSomeIdiot

Originally posted by skeptic_al
reply to post by Watts

 

NASA and Astrologers are looking for Planets with a Fixed Sun. Nobody is
looking for a Planet on a Elipical Orbit.

I am fairly certain NASA does not work with astrologers.

He/she didn't suggest they were...

Jamie.

Originally posted by pandapowerjamie

Originally posted by JustSomeIdiot

Originally posted by skeptic_al
reply to post by Watts

 

NASA and Astrologers are looking for Planets with a Fixed Sun. Nobody is
looking for a Planet on a Elipical Orbit.

I am fairly certain NASA does not work with astrologers.

Fare enough. I doubt astrologers are the ones looking for planets in the method described. I would guess astronomers are what was meant. You know, the scientists rather than the cooks who come up with that completely useless babble known as Astrology. And yes, I realize that in it's early history it was hard to separate the two but these days I believe it's a pretty simple matter to tell who is studying reality and who is speaking a bunch of drivel.

Originally posted by Watts


Can someone verify?

If this is real, why has it not been picked up by the news or at the least, sites like ATS? Unless it's possible to upload fake documents to the NSA website, I don't see how this could be made up. I wonder what all those messages say... lol I imagine it being like galactic voicemail!

www.nsa.gov
(visit the link for the full news article)

"Galactic voicemail"??? Nahh... Most likely it's just an internal memo between Groom Lake and Dulce...

"NSA UFO disclosure"... The ultimate scam of US gov't.

so wat if e.t exists the government will take care of everything as always and keep us in the dark for our good of course
























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reply to post by thePharaoh

it seems that this year, there has definatly been a spike in non-terrestrial presence

hmm, could this be GOD?

Originally posted by Watts

Originally posted by shaneR
reply to post by Watts

 

we already have too many threads...

a simple ATS search would have revealed these have been on ATS before, and recently!

they are a HOAX...

ok?

seeya

How ironic of you to tell me to do a search without even reading through the thread to see how many times I've apologized for re-hashing material already covered... A simple read would have let you know your post is more redundant than this thread. Ok? seeya

edit on 23-4-2011 by Watts because: (no reason given)

No, the thread itself is absolutely more redundant.

reply to post by Watts


It's time to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
If another country like China or Russia pulls the pin on the story of the millennium and comes up with irrefutable documented proof that we are not alone and especially taken from places where we (USA) have been like the moon, mars, especially the moon.. We as a nation will have to step aside to make room for the new leaders who will set the tone/agenda for man's future !!!

Very cool I sent it to all the ones I had signed up on sent it to michio kaku as well and nasa. lets hope this makes headlines. should be front page stuff.

reply to post by Watts


It looks like a hypothetical message experiment regarding the importance between the senders ability to transmit the encryption key and language data in a easy to decode method, versus the ability of the receiver to decode the message data correctly. It just looks like an experiment between scientists to me, one team taking the role as "alien" and the other as the "earthly receiver" and them playing about with ideas, logic and calculations how to make some form of a universal language decryption guide.

It was stamped FOIA 2004, so it's already an old released document?